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OK, I'm trying to start this in a "regular" forum --- let's see if we can stay polite and NOT force our mods to move it to 1A Lounge! I was delighted to see this article talking about turning up the heat on the employers who hire illegal aliens. LONG OVERDUE IMO! If you don't go after the things that draw illegal aliens here in the first place (like a paycheck) --- you are doing nothing to stem the human tide. After all, the majority of these people are simply desperate and seeking employment/better life, etc. I also appreciate the comments this ICE director made because the whole idea just strikes me as more equitable --- I mean, if we're going to enforce the law with the poor folks breaking our immigration laws largely because of their own desperation, we should certainly ALSO go after the wealthy employers who take advantage of that desperation for their own gain. That seems only fair! Besides, they need to be hitting this complex problem aggressively from both ends... and on all fronts. Here's the Mrs. Peel Illegal Alien Crackdown Plan (lol): Deport illegals, start with the felons - move on from there Aggressively fine - AND jail! - the employers who hire them (and please, not just the poor HR slob - throw a few CEO's in jail and advertise it widely - that'll have a chilling effect) Crack down on ANY and ALL sanctuary bodies (states/municipalities/school districts) that shield people from legal deportation orders - withhold funds, take to court, whatever means there are Do away with automatic citizenship (the ability to have so-called "anchor babies" is a huge draw IMO) Fund "no cost return trips" - promote these "paid bus tickets back home" on posters at every employer and every social service agency (make the posters mandatory like labor law & OSHA posters) And.... yep... build a damn wall! Because inevitably, the next administration will undo all of the policies of this current administration... and an enhanced physical barrier will be the only thing that remains. (It won't help, of course, with those that overstay visas, but at least it's a partial solution). I can only hope this planned crackdown on employers isn't empty talk! Because it really sounds like music to my ears. https://www.redstate.com/stre iff/2017/10/19/ice-director-directs-five-fold-increase-immigration-enforcement-actions-employers/

LONG overdue. Sounds like the Trump administration is keeping the promise of getting tough on illegal immigration. Now, build that damn wall already!

that is an impressive mental construct. which part of the unicorn is doing the "raping", just so we're clear.

The real question is if the captain of the new Russian sub has a Scottish accent..

there would be no "what the employers are willing to pay" if there were no illegals to do them for cheaper(although that gap's not what it once was). also, though most of us want good deals.....i'm pretty sure most of us will be willing to pay a little more for quality, and for legal citizens. how many of you bought "made in china" American flags for less than 10 bucks? or did ya pay the 35 bucks for made in America? this is a HUGE part of the problem. people not wanting to start out small. thinking they're entitled to go big right off the bat. i've had guys that didn't even rate as a parts hanger come in and want 12+ bucks an hour to start. annnd of course i showed em the door.

i'm glad to see they're finally doing something about the employers. it's gonna hurt a lot of landscapers and construction companies though. but.....i don't give a #$$%. they should know better.

Good! I get tired of the talking heads including both sides saying, they work jobs nobody wants. That is pure bs. I blame the govt. But I blame the parents of kids more. Nobody wants to wash dishes? Nobody wants to do landscaping? I did all that and more. God forbid parents don’t put there kids in the work force as soon as they are of age. My father said if I want something, I must work for it. I actually wanted to. It was a great feeling having some independence. Something the young never have. I started working when I was 13 and never looked back. Barely missing any time into my adulthood. I don’t see any fix for this. Parents won’t change. Kids will continue to be lazy and entitled till they have no choice. The only outcome I can see from ICE doing its thing is employers consolidating, paying more money to people for menial jobs or folding. Can’t hire low end workers if there are none. So I embrace what ICE is going to do. Just not sure what the long term results will be. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It's not really a surprise to me, or anyone in the submarine community, that Russian boats are becoming quieter. So are ours. I dont think we are losing ground to the Russians, or anyone else for that matter. New tech means quieter boats. I remember when I was on my last boat, (USS Salt Lake City) the Seawolf had just been launched. Seawolf was said to be as quiet at a flank bell (full throttle, for you non-submariners) as we were tied to the pier. The Seawolf class was, at the time, ground breaking tech. THE most capable, and the quietest nuclear powered submarine in the world. Seawolf was expensive, so we only built 3. The follow on class is the Virginia class boats, even better, every bit as capable, even quieter, but less expensive. I have been aboard one...absolutely incredible machine. Designed for littoral warfare, specifically for detecting and killing high end diesel boats in shallow waters...where diesel boats are the most deadly. This new Russian boat is apparently non-nuclear powered. Russian diesel boats were always pretty good, but very range limited. This boat sounds like it MAY even have Air Independent Propulsion (AIP), so that she may recharge her batteries without snorkeling. Most likely improved battery tech, so she can run longer and faster between battery charges. Sounds like she is cruise missle capabile, so I imagine she has some form of vertical launch system. Sounds like it may be an interesting new boat our Russian friends have there! Quiet as she may be, no worries, there are various ways to detect and track submarines. We have become quite astute at that, using acoustic, magnetic, and 'other' means. One more thing...as far as the submarine force is concerned, the Cold War never ended. We still keep close tabs on the Russian boats...just like the 'good old days'.

NOT TRUE The owners of SJSC (the Aducat family) continue to seek out a tenant for the space that was Bangers. If not a full FFL, then possibly someone with a NJ Retail license to sell ammo and supplies (but no guns) So PLEASE no more speculation on the empty space. It will be filled exactly when it is, and not one second sooner.

You probably felt the same way new Marines felt when they graduated boot camp and went directly to Vietnam.

I built a lower for the upper I had for sale .

I don't mean to be a pessimist, it's just that we have some rabid anti Second Amendment legislators that will have to be carried out dead from the statehouse before they stop infringing on our rights.

Linking to an article in the Wall St. Journal about the global cat & mouse game between U.S. and Russian submarine fleets... with a particular focus on Russia's newest subs, which they claim are the world's quietest. So, is it me? Or does it sound like we lost some ground technologically in recent years? The article certainly gives that impression! I'm sure our resident submariner, @Displaced Texan, and a few others with military knowledge will weigh in! https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-russian-ghost-submarine-its-us-pursuers-and-a-deadly-new-cold-war/ar-AAtLTc1?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

With a typical power of 1000 W and an efficiency of the order 0.1%, our MHD ship is able to reach a maximum velocity of 0.3 m.s−1 https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01555343/document That's so inefficient and slow... lol http://aapt.scitation.org/doi/10.1119/1.5008337 Reading those 2 papers says it's definitely possible but requires a LOT of power...

Correct. Just lots of magnetic fields... Everything I know about Sub Warfare I learned from reading Tom Clancy Novels.

Diesel subs running on batteries are quieter than Nuclear subs... however they have to surface to snorkel to recharge batteries. That limits the range... When they invent the Caterpillar drive though...

Not that I disagree, but... be prepared to pay more. Produce/fruits, construction, etc. The employer isn’t going to eat it if they have to pay more.. it’s similar to the minimum wage hike the Left loves. Its not that people don’t want to do those types of jobs. But they won’t/can’t do them for what the employers are willing to pay. Some of that is competitive pressure to lower cost.

No they won’t. It has to be a joint effort with parents and kids as I mentioned. No puters, no phones, no free car. Get their butts to work. They can make min. Wage to start. Win win in my book. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Yeah Henry

Maybe a bit touchy, but at least we finally got an update on an otherwise silent topic. Perhaps another rumor will appear in a month or two, or better yet, maybe someone in the know will post periodic updates to help keep us informed. Rumors will always abound, but silence makes them spread like wildfire.

OK, if the shockwave is cool and legit, why is nobody making a T2 style chopped down 1887 clone?

Asplundh jus got hit with one of the largest fines for this.

This guy is hilarious and informative. Figured it fit best here since many Milsurp Collectors also collect other items. The creator of the videos calls out the Waftards and the scumbag dealers who peddle this fake crap and how WAF protects them. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I assure you, we don't.

How do they know we dont run ours extra loud until we actually need them?

One of the brilliant design elements of the RPR is that swapping barrels is as easy as swapping a barrel on an AR. I believe the barrel life expectancy on a 6.5CM is about 3K to 4K rounds before accuracy begins to drop. Basically a .50 moa rifle becomes a 1 moa rifle. I the competition world that is important, in the hunting or hitting a 9" gong at 1000 yds, not a big deal. If I do go with 6.5CM it will be through the RPR.

A bit touchy Brian. LOL Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk

I am new to precision shooting and very recently purchased a RPR in 223/556. Have shot it once and my initial impressions are very good. Shot it at 100 yards with a variety of ammo. Was able to achieve several sub-moa groups (.7 thru .9) using premium factory ammo. Am very happy with the RPR and am confident it is more accurate than I am. Recoil was very light. Check out the snipers hide forums. A wealth of information there from people who are true experts. One thing I do recall reading there is that with calibers such as 6.5Creedmore, barrel life is limited, as compared to 223/556 and 308.

Rob, congratulations. As Mrs. Peel stated, change is also stressful but in the long run things will work out fine once you get settled in and used to life in your new home. I myself greatly value my 2nd Amendment rights but unfortunately also feel like I am being coerced to move out of NJ. Dam shame given I was born and raised here. Also have lots of family here so cant fully up and move anytime soon. However, I am nearing retirement age and am increasingly thinking of buying a home in Pa and making that my primary residence; while maintaining an apartment in the area I presently live near family. The other constraint that I increasingly think about is the fact that the runway of life is growing ever shorter.

Great question Dragline but alas I haven't heard anything either. I did hear a VERY UNCONFIRMED rumor that the SJSC owner may be looking to sell to a developer. I really hope that isn't true but could explain why no movement on the empty space.

Rob: Good luck on your new legal residence in FL and all of the tax advantages that come with permanent residence there. I hope you will not be someplace that is too exposed to potential damage from wind and/or flooding, etc. from hurricanes. Also, while it is nice to have an apartment in NYC, once you decide to jettison that as well, I think you may feel even more liberated from the negative aspects of the NYC metro region. Enjoy the next chapter of your life. AVB-AMG

Nada

I think the Air Force might call it a bathroom The followup is regardless of what happened in the latrine (Army) or head (Navy, Coast Guard, or Marines) these guys went on to there other training and ended up in Vietnam. You just went on to the next stage. No counseling, time for remorse, etc.

Sfp, i can't afford a vortex ffp.

If you didn't serve in the military, it's hard to explain.

I handled one today at Ramsey. I have absolutely no idea what I would do with it. I took a pass.

So after watching a few youtube videos i ordered the PA scope from optics planet. Then after watching a few more youtube videos I called optics planet to cancel the order. But I figured since I already have them on the line I might as well ask them if they had any special deals on vortex. Well, I was very surprised, I got the $569 Viper HS-T 4-16x44 for $432 flat. If anyone is in the market for this scope give optics planet a call now!

@High Exposure @fattyFlattered but thanks to the virtual world I’m not leaving this board. Many high quality folks. And @Zeke my wife has me on a budget for the first time ever. Like she said, the only good thing about the permitting process is prevented you from going broke. Certainly that’s an unintended side effect of an otherwise draconian law. Oh, and I do pretty well getting stuff but I don’t think I can keep up with @BlueLineFish

No, that's not sappy... it's well-stated. Moving is both a loss and a gain at the same time, but right now, there's bound to be more of the loss for you... and a bit of mourning, too. I suspect though, once your outta here, the sadness will soon fade... you'll be one of those relaxed, grinning escapees that chimes in on these forums now and again to say, "oh, you poor, poor fools... still in Joisey are you?" Once you're finally out, you'll be happy. The escapees always are... aren't they? (Dammit.) Congrats on your closing... and your exciting new life chapter! I hope you chime in on here now and again... with tantalizing tales of Free America.

So did DC and Illinois but they are now both shall issue. You gotta believe!

I was never aware of this thread until it was brought to my attention by another member today. Alarmwizz, I do not understand how offering to ship the firearm to a NJ FFL is "shady" as it not only protects both the buyer and seller but allows a buyer outside of normal driving distance (where a FTF sale isn't practical) to purchase the firearm legally. Nothing shady about that unless the buyer has a record and cannot pass a NICS check. It's first come first serve and due to my job I'm required to move around NJ 24/7 when a call comes in. I did attempt to call you and left you a voice mail message explaining SPF (sold pending funds) and that the rifle was no longer available, unfortunately I never heard back from you. Petros, you summed it up well. The buyer was another member on here who had me ship it to his FFL, I will not post his screen name since I do not have his permission to do so but he closed on the deal quickly. Thanks to 67gtonut for unlocking this thread so I could clear this up.