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ELITISM EXPOSED: Shaneen Allen’s Judge “ONLY PERSON” to get CCW Permit in Atlantic County Posted by Alexander Roubian 490sc on December 13, 2017 · Add your reaction For years we have stated that only politicians, judges and their friends can obtain conceal carry permits in New Jersey… and for years we have been told we are "paranoid" and only “specially trained” individuals like law enforcement officers are allowed that privilege. Politicians like Loretta Weinberg have fought hard to keep permit holder information exempt from public records requests, probably to protect the identity of her friends, and maybe herself? Though we do not know who exactly the 1,274 that have received a conceal carry permit are, the admission of a prosecutor that Judge Michael Donio was the only non-police officer in Atlantic City to receive a conceal carry permit (ccw) is further evidence that we are, in fact, not paranoid nor wrong. For over two years we have scoured through public records and went undercover to identify, document, and now expose those who are quick to deny us our constitutional right (while they simultaneously enjoy that same right). This elitist “good for thee, but not for me” mentality must end NOW! To make matters worse, Judge Michael Donio didn't find it "egregious" that prosecutors thought a single mother from crime-ridden Philadelphia, a victim of violence herself, would be a prime candidate to put in prison and made an example of. The hypocrisy and double standard is disgusting, and the snippet at the end of the video below speaks for itself. Video HERE:

Sometimes Roubian does stuff that is soooo very good... I just wish he had more self-discipline to keep his anger focused only on the anti-2A crowd. But, I'm quick to admit... this is one of those times when he nailed it. It's a great video.

Rob - First, let me say When I was a kid I took a beaten protecting my dog Secondly, as an adult when someone pointed a shotgun at my dog while hunting I put a shotgun to their face. I love animals and won't tolerate any animal abuse. I've carried my 80lb dogs when they were sick / dying. Now all that being said...This story sounds fishy as hell. Feed dogs in an alley? Go fund me page? Too much touchy feely for me. Jersey City is rat infested. Rat poison may have been for rats and these pet owner obviously didn't tend to their dogs properly. Now the poor dogs paid the price and these pet owners want sympathy? The death of these dogs sickens me. But, maybe the owners should think goldfish.

He's the only one in this entire state that does anything positive for us. He's the only one that actually wants this to move forward. He's also the only person who has gotten anything done for us. Witch is why he's the only 2a group (besides the NRA) that gets my money. All the other ones in this state do not have me fooled.

I'm afraid that I cannot add my learned opinion of the Judge outside of the 1A lounge. But I am comforted that Jesus has saved a hot place for hypocrites.

I'm not at liberty to discuss a lot. But first is we havent really seen suicide bombers in this fashion. It is a tactic used in a lot of other places that we haven't really seen here. Secondly the make up of the bomb. Mostly it's been the standard explosive with shrapnel. This was different. If the proper materials were used it would have been a lot worse on scene and taken more of an emotional impact. This is not a tactic you can really stop. It getting rid of those that will do it

You make interesting points. See comments below in bold italics.

Anyone who thinks events like this won’t become a monthly/weekly reality is sadly out of touch with our world.

Only way to make no mistakes is not try at all. But that itself is a biggest mistake. I am sincerely interested in what he did with "2 steps back" that negatively impacted 2A rights of a regular Joe in NJ ?

I told him he's got more Balls than a Bowling alley!

I will say this again. I have far more respect for an idiot who does something than a learned who sits on their ass all day contemplating. Almost anyone can sit in their air conditioned office and talk. But it takes tremendous amount of balls to do what Roubian is doing here. Most of us hesitate to write a letter to local Chief asking why the processing is taking longer than directed by law. Imagine going with video cameras, recording, showing up at anti-2A discussions, challenging and opening yourself up to problem and taking on legal system ?

Now, just to be able to get this through the minds of would be/maybe baby cops.

I’m usually not someone that gets vengeful with things... but I’d have the feeling if someone poisoned my two dogs, they would unexpectedly have their house burned to the ground shortly there after. Just saying...

^this^ 45 Colt and 44 Mag can both be loaded to very powerful rounds but they are big cartridges so generally pretty heavily built guns. 9mm and 45 acp are both good self defense rounds but they aren’t the best choice for hunting in Alaska. I personally like 357/38. You can do everything from barely putting holes in paper using light 38 special all the way up to black bear defense with hot 357 rounds. I suspect I’d like 44mag/44 special in the same way, though I don’t have one at the moment. So if you are not interested in 357 and are looking for a jack of all trades sort of caliber, that’d be my choice. I like the Redhawk 44 mag with a 5.5” barrel https://www.ruger.com/products/redhawk/models.html or the S&W 629 6” barrel https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-629 I understand the interest in using 9mm and 45 acp in a revolver but I feel there are better options for those rounds in a semi so other then maybe needing only one type of ammo for a semi, revolver and pistol caliber carbine or using it for competition like IDPA, I am not sure there is a lot of practical benefit in them but sometimes it’s not about practicality JMHO -Jim

The way that I am reading it, is that if you only have a NON resident permit, from anywhere, it will not let you carry in your home state. It is good in the other 49

Keep in mind shooting skills is a very small part of combat shooting. Mindset and mental preparation are about 95% of it.

I'd save my money and use it to get the hell out of NJ.

FYI, the Corvettes I like the most from a purely styling aesthetic are the relatively early models from the late 1950’s to early 1960’s. My favorite is the 1960 Corvette model year with the quad headlights and swooping rounded rear tail lights that create IMHO, a very attractive and stylish composition, before they began the more knife-like design approach in the subsequent years. In case you are interested, the approx. current value for a 1960 Corvette that is in a freshly restored, number 1 Concours condition, is around $103,000. AVB-AMG Now if you want to stay in the current model year, for my money I would much prefer a new 2019 front-engine, rear-wheel drive Ferrari 812 Superfast over the 2019 Corvette ZR1. This Ferrari’s 6.5 liter V-12 generates 789 hp with a top speed of 221 mph vs. the Corvette’s 6.2 liter supercharged V-8 that generates 755 hp and a top speed of 212 mph. Of course, as I said earlier, the expected $120,000 MSRP for the Corvette is an excellent deal, compared to the $315,000 MSRP for the Ferrari. But in comparing the exterior design of the Ferrari to the Corvette, I think the Ferrari has won hands down… AVB-AMG

If I had that much $$ to spend on a car, it would be an Aston Martin or a Ferarri. Not a Chevy.

exactly my thoughts!

IMHO you can Put Evan Nappen in the category of useless. He does however promote himself, at the expense of gun owners. Try calling his office, don't count on a return call unless you were a high profile arrest.

I didnt think of donated to NJ2AS until recently, much less a fan or moxie. I donated 100 times more to other organizations than I ever did to NJ2AS. In my personal opinion, my ROI has been great with NJ2AS than anything else in recent past. I will take his stupid video about a politician (in the context of other videos he had made at various PD locations) any day over "Permitting Strike Force" that does nothing (what a name) any day. We (specially I am ) are way past worrying about what others may think. Publicly criticizing another 2A organization, unprovoked is one thing I DO NOT support. May be we will take another 1A thread, but I wasn't talking about type of character assassination you are talking about and I certainly wasnt implying that other 2A groups will do. Its a different type of Character Assassination he needs to worry about, specially sticking he head so far out against a rotten system. More than happy to elaborate in 1A thread, if need be. Last but not least, NJ2AS was not just in "support" role for the stun gun case. They are the party to the stun gun case. And they won. If it was so easy, then I wonder what was taking so long for any number of NJ 2A organizations to get it done. And if it was so easy to go through Freedom Of Information act process, get videos, review them, get that one "aha" moment posted in the OP, then why isnt any other organization doing it ?

IF he's still trashing other groups that want the same thing.....he needs to stop. we need to adapt the same tactics that the antis use. first and foremost that means that those with egos need to put their egos in the closet, and work together with others, regardless of who's the leader. at this point, it doesn't matter who did the most, or who is a meanie. what matters is that we need full support of/for all our 2a groups. without it, we're gonna lose more than anyone wants to imagine.

See no point in choke tube on a Shockwave. Mine patterns low recoil 00 about the same as a 18" barrel, about 12" at 25 yds.

With the scum that poisoned the dogs in it! MFer will rot in hell!

Hurt my dog, and may God have mercy upon you, because I won’t.

Fair question! 1) Some of his videos have just been stupid - the one where he's obviously trying to "trick" politicians into showing they support cop-killer Joanne Chesimard. OK, fine, you made a video that didn't hit the mark. Great, leave it on the cutting room floor - don't release it and look like a moron. Do we benefit when a 2A leader comes off looking totally inept? Or does it make us all look inept? 2) From what I can gather, he completely bungled his "support" of that large range that was planned for North Jersey. ... and then deflected, blaming other 2A groups for not doing enough. 2A proponents should follow the same oath as doctors do: "first do no harm". Sometimes charging in like a raging bull is useful, sometimes it's disastrous. I think he stirred the pot TOO much... and helped it implode. Did we all benefit from the other side squashing a new range in NJ? 3) As for "other" NJ 2A orgs - this is just my opinion - but CNJFO seems to be meeting their stated mission, which relies largely on awareness raising, bringing more people into the shooting sports, etc. I have no issues there. Time will tell whether they're good at bringing lawsuits, etc. which seems to be an area they want to wade into now. ANJRPC has been too quiet, too over-promising IMO. This is a new day though - a new ugly day. Whether they can rise to the occasion remains to be seen. The fact that they're reaching out to other groups is promising - again, time will tell. But Roubian has DELIGHTED in trashing other 2A groups to the press - creating divisiveness and bad feeling in a community that desperately needs to be fighting as one. When he's giving quotes to the anti-2A press or trashing them on Facebook - do you really think the 2A community benefits from that? You've never struck me as naiive - AT ALL. Surely you suspect he's just trying to win members to his own organization...? Those are some examples of "2 steps back". I'm sure you and many others might disagree. Do keep in mind though, I LOVE the things he does right. I just think he's such a hothead that he often directs his anger inappropriately and that's a BIG problem. The credo "criticize privately, praise publicly" is one he should follow when dealing with other 2A groups. If he has nothing good to say about one of the other 2A groups, he should keep his big trap shut... not vent to a reporter! Why is this so hard to understand??

I get it Griz. What I am saying is a firefight involving a platoon or fire team size element of regular soldiers (SOF and DA folks is a different story) in a combat zone and what an armed citizen needs to train for as far as combat accuracy in a shooting are slightly different and for cause.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lDb0Dn8OXE

i have only one dog, u poison him, nobody will save you from what i would do to you....NOBODY! hint......think Hostel & SAW combined.

So, a few on here remember me with another screen name, "Topher". I've since abandoned that and gone to "Bully" for several reasons, one of which is my love of the bully-breeds. I currently am owned by an English and I can tell you that if anyone ever raised a hand to her or intended to do her harm, the gates of Satan's domicile would open and be unleashed upon that soul. I do want to know why the fuck the dogs were fed in an alley? Odd, that.

You're focusing on the tools, and not the actor. This country has seen pipe bombs, but normally they're placed somewhere. Now we have wingnuts willing to go up with the bomb. That's new for us. I can't speak specifically, but I concur on the soft targets. People need to start carrying concealed.

Again that is pertaining to the handgun itself and interstate commerce. It's their way of saying we can make this law under the Interstate Commerce clause. No sense in debating it anymore since the two bills have to be reconciled and if passed the final bill will look exactly like neither. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

here is the part I think bones us that only have a non resident permit. “(2) an individual who is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm, and who is carrying a government-issued photographic identification document and is entitled and not prohibited from carrying a concealed firearm in the State in which the individual resides otherwise than as described in paragraph (1), may possess or carry a concealed handgun (other than a machinegun or destructive device) that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce in any State other than the State of residence of the individual that— “(A) has a statute that allows residents of the State to obtain licenses or permits to carry concealed firearms; or “(B) does not prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms by residents of the State for lawful purposes.

Doesn’t NJ say “all guns are illegal except...” that to me means the same as “prohibited by state” and having lived in NJ almost 40 years I am sure that is what the state is going to say if it ever gets to court... Maybe I am jaded at this point but this bill will not help us here in NJ at all... -Jim

For the naysayers please read (2) ......Is entitled and not prohibited from CCW in the State in which the individual resides..... may possess or carry a concealed handgun..... (b) Conditions and Limitations - possession or carrying of a concealed handgun in a State under this section should be subject to the same conditions and limitations, EXCEPT as to ELIGIBILITY to POSSESS or CARRY,...... who are licensed by the State.... OR NOT PROHIBITED by State from doing so. [emoji767] Unrestricted License or Permit - In a State that allows CCW.....an individual carrying a concealed handgun under this section SHALL BE permitted to CARRY a concealed handgun according to the same terms authorized by an unrestricted license of or permit issued to a resident of the State. If not prohibited by State then you can carry In state.

I've always said to new AR owners. Build your first one as plane as possible, THEN after you figure out what is crap and what works change accordingly.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/12/12/still-confused-about-that-tragic-walking-dead-death-youre-not-alone/ Sent from my XT1635-01 using Tapatalk

Fresh Direct is very popular. Pretty much everyone I know uses them.

One thing on the range, another thing when your target is bobbing and weaving and shooting back.

You would be shocked how often shit like this happens. I picked up a cat that was thought to have rabies or some other sort of neurological problem. Turned out someone stuck rat poison up its ass.

I'm outraged and can't get over this.

I have ordered from them in the last 6 months. Nothing besides the usual issue that they will sell you stuff they don't actually have so shipping can take a while. If you use free mail by MS or google, check your junk folder, mine started eating optics planet mail about a week ago. It's Christmas time, if you are going to find the bits that break, now is it.

Family CAIR lawyer “ outraged by treatment of ‘accused terrorist ‘ family members during investigation “ NYPD” get over it” Merica! F YA!

ARE YOU SURE YOUR NAMES NOT ZEKE..

No worries, I love them. Pics don't do them justice but everyone has different tastes. The inlay of the design is stellar

Your receiver extension (the correct name for the "buffer tube") and castle nut are not mil-spec. Soon as it says "enhanced" you are out of spec. Spec is just that - to the military specifications and nothing further. If it ratchets, has an anti-tilt lip, and has a "lightened design" it does not meet the specification.

Also, the 20 gauge is for women or millennial males. The 12 gauge is for men.

Got pretty much done with it... shy of two things. Not really visible is the stainless follower and Volquartsen extractor. Got two of the Magpul hand stop kits to create that one, put a rail on the forend (for a TLR-1; fits great with the hand inside the stops), and a TacStar sidesaddle (I like them a little better than the other options out there). The next thing I’m doing is probably sending the barrel out to Rose Action Sports, and have it threaded for Remington chokes. Might have him polish the chamber, as well. Second thing will be plating the entire gun. Have a request to CCR to see if they can do it, but Robar will be the second option (they are expensive). Was thinking about having the dimples removed and adding a +1 extension... but to be honest, I rather keep the standard setup.

I saw a couple on Amazon that a had a piece you could mount so you can see the view finder through your cell phone screen. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk