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Let Murphy fight it in the courts. Should be interesting to see what constitutional argument he has the state AG make against the rights of the fed to determine fed taxes. What's he gonna say? How dare the feds limit SALT deduction to only $10k. Guess what the limit is for NJ prop tax on NJ taxes? Yup - $10k. This is all just Murphy playing to his base. He has to do something since he stands a snowballs chance in hell of keeping any of his campaign promises.

It is a shame that a US citizen even has to worry about traveling with a tool into states like NJ and getting arrested for merely possessing. Here in VA a non-CCW gun owner can ride with their loaded gun loaded on them in the car (on person, in glovebox, on seat, etc) and it is not a crime. We also have Constitutional Open Carry. I live out in the sticks so I see open carry a lot.

Take it as you like. That’s on you. I have knowledge, experience, and training opportunities concerning the shooting of AR pattern rifles over the last 15 years that doesn’t mirror most folks. That includes regularly shooting in armor and kit and training others to do the same - I teach both techniques. I was merely stating that believing that a high knee prone position is an outdated technique is shortsighted. The high leg didn’t evolve into flat iso. Flat iso has always existed. Look at pictures as far back as WWI, (maybe even further but I only did a quick google search) you will see soldiers in a flat iso position. I have never once said any way was THE way to do anything - shit, I shoot flat iso when out of kit. I shoot flat iso sometimes in kit. My whole point in my statement regarding high knee was there was more than one way to do something. The situation will dictate. Everyone’s frame of reference is different - many people forget that. I believe I said everyone’s needs and capabilities are different - I just went back and checked - yup, that is in fact what I said. That statement stands true. Sometimes flat iso is right, sometimes high knee is called for. As such, a high knee shooting position is still taught for a lot of applications and is most certainly not outdated. Oh, and I don’t need to be leery of anyone I have trained with - their pedigree is unapproachable. Looking back over the last few responses, out of the two of us, your statements were more towards the “final word” spectrum of the discussion.

After speaking to Mark Cheeseman yesterday about this subject, I asked him to contact Meg's lawyer to "fill-in the blanks". He knows the lawyer since the same lawyer did some work for Mark. Without pointing fingers, someone dropped the ball on this! The lawyer was promised coverage that never happened. So it fell-off EVERYBODY's radar screen! I was able to find-out that the round rolling-around on the back seat floor was a hollow point, and her LOADED hand gun was "SECURED" in the vehicle's trunk. Yes she had a PA "LTCF" like Shaneen Allen, however Meg's was up for renewal and inside the "grace period" prior to formal expiration. At the time of the Stop, the date on her LTCF had come & gone. The NJ Judge saw it as EXPIRED! Neither the County Prosecutor or the Judge saw fit to offer PTI, even after the Shaneen Allen case yielded a 23 page document from the then AG Hoffman that recommended same! Mark & I discussed other details about the case that he asked I not reveal. These minute details don't "change the flavor" of this SHIT SHOW or affect the outcome OR OUR 2A COMMUNITY RESPONSE in ANY way! Please take a minute to make a phone call & thanks from Mark & myself! Here's Mark's Facebook story I ran yesterday: IT'S TIME TO HELP MEG! CALL GOV. CHRISTIE'S OFFICE! Black Wire Media story by Mark Cheeseman December 20, 2017 http://www.cnjfo.com The clock is ticking fast on this one. Our new Governor gets sworn-in a few short weeks from now! Meg's story is real. It fell off the radar screen (we're not pointing blame here). She pleaded-out to a year in jail while looking at 10. All because of a hollow point bullet rolling around on the backseat floor of her car. A tragic case of INJUSTICE! Yet another Pennsylvania woman with a PA CCW license getting jammed-up by NJ's overbearing & overreaching gun laws! Please call the Governor's Office and ask for a full pardon for Meg Fellenbaum: 609-292-6000. Link to original story here: see Mrs. Peel's link to ammoland story! Thanks for reading! Rosey, VP CNJFO

Or you live in NJ.

Seems like a good deal all around, the only issue I can see with it are people in places like NJ, NY, CA etc. taking a hit due to the Feds not giving as much of a deduction on State property taxes anymore. Which will be a good thing because now people in those states will push their state govs to reduce entitlements and lower property taxes. LOL who am I kidding, that's wayyyyyy too much "thinking" for some. Evil Trump! Bad Trump! Bad bad Republicans!! Booo!!! It was HER turn!!!!

Ouch! Was the food good? Hero to the Stupid. He Seems more like Kim Kardashian, Famous for being famous. No each Shattering victories. At Least Kim had a record amount of total inches in that pipe. I certainly have No Problem with Smoking .50 and would have a beer with him anytime. I can always learn something from him.

Why are so many people busting Smokin .50 chops. Seems to me he is the only one who comes on the forum from any 2A group. Is the only group talking about lawsuits that aren't crazy. Hosts shooting and teaching events. Hasn't pissed off all the other 2A groups. Isn't against us having CCW and other 2A rights. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I did say many not all. From what I read I actually like what it sounds like you guys are doing. I mentioned Nappen because he was the prior topic not yourself. That's why I was surprised you thought it was directed towards you.

Thanks for following up on what Nj2as emailed out

No offense but you typed "Non-Profits", and we're all certain Nappen's law firm doesn't fall into THAT category, lol! Besides, a LOT of grumpy forum members have been attempting to chew on my ass of late, so my antenna were already UP! But whatever... You're right in the fact that no one draws any sort of salary at CNJFO. In fact it's in our Bylaws (which you're more than welcome to view as a member). As to the NRA & Wayne's salary, well, if you received DEATH THREATS against you & your family, you might want to be compensated for it too? As to what the American Cancer Society does with its' monies, I can't speak to. If big pharma ever comes up with a pill to prevent cancer, ACS is in a world of SH!T....

Nah, don’t do that. He wants to throw my info out there - whatevs. I can tell you that I am not a huge fan of it - he could have handled that much differently, but still gotten his intended point across - but it is what it is. I’ve been here for a while and the people here that know me? Well... they know me. He doesn’t have to prove himself and I’m not going to throw his info out there - I don’t think I even know him, but I might. He can take my posts as he likes, just like everyone else here.

We've got a Bichon that we love dearly. He's 25lbs and can be very energetic and a very cuddly lap dog, definitely a sprinter...he goes like crazy then chills out. We got him because both my wife and I have allergies to animals and he doesn't cause any issues. He's not yappy but he's a great watch dog. He alerts if anything is around the house, like other dogs, bears or humans. I would also recommend poodles if you're looking for bigger dogs. They are very smart. A Bichon is essentially a Poodle/Spanish Water dog mix.

For those of you who don't know, White Oak Armament has been around a long time and is highly regarded in the High Power rifle match community. Well, they are now breaking out into other areas! They just released a sweet barrel geared towards the action sports. It's an 18", with two features that really set it apart from the competition. Custom length gas system. It is 1" shorter than rifle length, and of course this makes it longer than mid-length. 18" barrels running rifle length can sometimes be fickle, with such a short dwell time. But, users of the rifle length system in 18" do so for the smother recoil impulse versus the mid-length and shorter gas systems. This barrel does not give up much in means of added recoil feel, but it will ensure your rifle is healthily gassed for maximum reliability. It's LIGHT! 1.9 pounds on the lightest 18" profile means you'll have your cake and eat it too. What do I mean? You'll have the recoil impulse like that of an 18" rifle gassed barrel, you'll have the velocity as well, but it will handle more like a 16"...or less! I haven't gotten my paws on one to try just yet, but I know John at White Oak would not put out a barrel that doesn't perform. He reports that groups don't shift with rapid firing even on the lightest contour. We shall see! If anyone winds up getting one of these, please let me know how you like it! https://www.whiteoakarmament.com/shop/barrels/varmint-target-informal-competition/3-gun-mk-223-5-56-18-1-8-twist-w-gas-tube.html

Exactly what I would do and I've been putting PCs together since the late 80s. Measuring the cooler temp doesn't give you a great indication of what the CPU is doing, specially if it's not transferring heat due to lousy thermal conduction.

with all this talk of reform, i've got questions. how the hell is it fair that rich people have to pay a higher percentage of their income than me? how the hell is it fair that super rich pay more than rich? how the hell is it fair that i pay more then those making less than me? who the hell came up with this shit? it's like we're all being punished, except those on govt teet.

$6400? I remember paying that, like 25 yrs ago!

Go 686 plus with 6" barrel. I think it's better value than pc

maybe if he's too busy fighting this in court, he'll distract himself from fucking us like he plans.

Before you go through all the trouble of swapping out mobos, go for the low hanging fruit. The power led code (4 blinkie blinks) is telling you it's a thermal issue. btw, onboard thermometers are not exactly precision instruments. Just pull the heat sink, scrape it and the cpu, and put a dab o' fresh thermal past on there. That's a whole lot less work, is a logical step in diagnostics and is exactly what I'd do based on the 15 years experience I had as as a computer tech.

"New Jersey was never a low-cost state to live in. We were always on our best day, the good-value-for-money state," Murphy said. "You pay a premium to live in a state like ours, but you get a lot back for that. Our job is to make folks feel like ... that premium was worth it." Hey Murph, in the words of Judge Judy Sheindlin, "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining!"

I don't know that it's the 'old' position. International shooters (Olympics, World Cup, Pan Am Games) mostly shoot bent leg prone, and I think that's the dominant form you'll see at US competitions like Camp Perry. I've not seen any trend away from bent leg to isosceles in the precision events.

Good luck getting into a stable and low flat isosceles prone position with armor and mags on your chest. The high knee is where it’s at in kit. The situations dictates... Not everyone’s needs or capabilities are the same.

It was in a battle, getting the permit from NJ..LOl..

True dat

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That's at minimum a $200 scratch. Allegheny Arms re-anodizes Inox frames for $125, but add in the overnight shipping for the frame and bam, easy $200+...F****

If the Democrats take over they won't amend this. They'll repeal it. Then they can still pass legislation requiring registration, possession permits, etc The legislation doesn't have to be new laws. It can be conditions for getting federal money. You want Federal School Lunch money? You have to have all guns registered, require training for possessing firearms, etc. Take what you can get. Worry about losing it after you have it.

A Walking Dead post from 2013! I left NJ for the free United States 2 years ago....

It wasn't a public defender it was a lawyer the guy paid $1500 to. Nappen then should have told the press if my client wants to pay me to continue the case we will take it to SCOTUS. Not we are taking this all the way to SCOTUS. As far as I am concerned Nappen is an author and the equivalent of a carnival barker. His office certainly doesn't return calls and he doesn't return emails to take on cases without publicity.

Sounds like an overheating issue. That's the only thing that would cause it to power down. CPU Cooler may not be getting hot, but the CPU may be - you may need to clean/reapply thermal paste.

i think she should be taken in. and fined at LEAST what she offered to pay them. then tossed in prison for bribery. it's the right and moral thing to do.

Cavachon. King Charles and Bichon mix. Awesome. Awesome. 25 pounds max. No shedding.

Nappen is wrong because SCOTUS and Federal District judge said so. NJ decided not to appeal the case. Thus stun guns are allowed to be carried in NJ. This is probably the only time anyone will read this, but I agree with Zeke on this one. Anyone who wastes money listening to the great Nappen speak ask him what happened to the Pantano Case from Manalapan. Big mouth told all the papers he was appealing all to the Supreme Court of the United States once NJ Supreme Court changed their minds. In reality Nappen wanted six figures up front. If he was such a great hero of NJ firearms rights why not work pro bono. It would have been huge for his reputation to win. Actually has he ever won a case? I've read about a lot of deals cut but not too many wins.

THE ONLY reason libs are painting this as all bad is because republitards came up with it. had the dimocrats put forth the EXACT same plan, they'd be frothing at the mouth to get it passed.

More proof that Nj2as is the only one worth giving money to (besides the NRA). Sure he may have hurt some feelings but !#(€ you and your feelings. I'm sure if Anthony ever had a meeting with Sweeney it would be just like when Scott brown nosed Christie when he made the last set of ridiculous laws saying we can stop to piss but don't stop to piss and justifiable need Is awesome. You think Scott and Anthony want CCW for all, not likely, then who would give them money? The truth hurts don't it.

Taking cases from lowly peons doesn't pay for camo blazers.

I hate to be a pessimist, but my thoughts are that certain 2A groups don't want to solve the problem. Fundraising is a lot easier when there is a boogeyman.

Tying in the first post and the current discussion. All of it is evidence where we, as gun owners, stand in the eyes of NJ. Whether it's from those who sit on high throwing us crumbs now and then which we've been trained to accept graciously, or from vultures looking to pick at the carcasses of the oppressed.

Does it say "Call Me If you can make me a star in the Media" on it? He's really,really good at self promoting at the expense of others misfortune...A Lot Like Cory Booker!