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OH! I thought this was a thread about Democrats............

Brought this one back to its original glory. Made 1918 U.S Property and Flaming Bomb marked. All matching likely refinished and reissued for WWII. Lanyard is original 1918. Lanyard loop also original. Grips I went repro solid walnut that look original. Originals cost nearly what I paid for the revolver. Also got an original ammo pouch with original ammo and half moonclips. Haven't fired it yet but I will. Before and after pic. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Ok. This is fair. But I did say 10/22 first and that everyone should have one. I was pushing the 15-22 on Z and Mrs Z. I’m a work in progress Don’t you say an unkind work about my NODs. I’ll be seein’ you tonight. It’s cool, you don’t have to leave a light on.

I have a S&W 686 Plus 4" that holds 7 rounds of .357/38. All you will ever need.

It’s ok @Mrs. Peel the fact that @Zeke is trash talking means he’s nervous, and that’s how I prefer it

All firearms have a bore line/sight line discrepancy - often referred to as “mechanical offset” - and if you are using them for self defense, you should understand that. My stock Glocks with standard height sights it is just a bit over .5”, on the Glocks with suppressor height sights and mini RDS mounted, it’s a bit higher still. •••Again, the below commentary is for red dot shooting with “combat” accuracy standards - not precision bullseye or “sniping”••• Barms, It ain’t a mindfuck unless you think about it the way you are thinking about it. The bullet doesn’t rise. Due to the angle of the barrel in relation to the sights, it has a trajectory - a flight path that will intersect your line of sight two times: once on the way up, and once on the way down. That’s the simplest way to think about it. Except for those two times, the bullet will never, ever, ever, hit your exact point of aim. It will always be a little high or a little low. You need to know the distance for both of your intersection points, your maximum deviation over the line of sight and at what distance you will encounter it, and how fast it drops after the second intersection. This last part lets you figure holdovers for longer ranges - for example, I know with my 50 yard zero that to hit the chest at 300 yards, I need to aim for the neck, at 400 yards, above the eyes. With an appropriate and useful zero distance, your maximum deviations should be minimal at the ranges you are most likely to encounter. This allows you to not have to think about changing your point of aim for as long as possible. This is why I like the 50 yard zero. If I do my part, I will never be more than 1.75” high to 1” low from 25-225 yards*. For all intents and purposes - that is point of aim for social engagements. From 0-25 yards you need to account for mechanical offset regardless of your zero - if you are taking a high percentage shot. The offset will alway be equal to the distance between the center of your bore and your aiming point at 0 yards and decrease logarithmically from there until you reach your first intersection point or zero distance. If I need to take a precision shot inside 25 yards, with my preferred 50 yard zero, I know I have to place my dot about 2.5” above my intended point of impact if I am 7 yards and in. I place the dot about 2” high from 15 yards to 7, and about 1.5” from 15 yards to 25 yards and about an inch at 25 yards. Keeping these numbers in mind, I can estimate anywhere in between if I can gauge my distance to target appropriately. For example - If I am closer to 25 yards, my holdover is closer to 1”, if I am closer to 15 yards away, I hold closer to 1.5” high at 20 yards, I’ll split the difference and try to put my dot 1.25” above my intended point of impact. I also know that I find a 1” group at 25 acceptable so that’s why I only care about offset inside 25 yards. At around 130 yards I will have the maximum height over line of sight at around 1.5”ish. I am fine with a 4” group there, so I don’t change my aiming point. So, say my target is an 8” circle. If I aim dead center of it, I will never be more than: • 2.5”low of center at 0 yards, • Dead in at 50yards • 1.5” high of center at 130 yards • Dead on at 200ish yards • 2” low of center at 250 yards. These are all well inside my acceptable hit area of an 8” circle considering a 4” radius.

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IM Shane45 on here, he's from GSSC. -does awesome work! I've trusted him with all my SCARs.

I have used both @JT Custom Guns and @Shane45. I’d recommend them both, equally. As far as upper. If it’s jus the upper you have in your possession it’s not a firearm.. jus machine parts.

More likely their residents getting jammed up here. N.J. has zero reciprocity

Check out Rim fire Central. Forum dedicated to rim fire only (no political discussion). They seem to favor the CZs from the little browsing I've done there. The great thing about bolt action is it really makes you slow down. Makes you think about and concentrate on all your actions. If you want to build something, go semi and get the most inexpensive 10/22 you can find. You can customize the back out of them! All types of after market stocks, triggers, barrels, etc. Good luck!

Don't forget the load bearing chest rig, basically lingerie for men, and a ballistic helmet with night vision goggles.

Not my first time out this year but a good day Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ever been to Maine? I saw a swarm of black flies carry off a cat.

On the M-Lok handguard

Thank you Zeke! We do compliance work.............

Also Monmouth Arms in Marlboro.

I've heard nothing but good things about the CZ rimfires. For the price, I don't think you can get a better quality rimfire. Don't get into the whole switchbarrel thing, its an added cost the will very rarely if ever be needed. Don't let others dissuade you from getting a bolt gun for your first .22. Contrary to popular belief, a Mark series and a 10/22 are not the end-all be-all for rimfires. I bought a Kimber 82 Hunter many years ago, and do not wish for a semi ever. I would say that it would be the ideal rifle for you, but they are not made anymore. The CZ is very close.

None of these companies pulling out sell directly anyway so the point they are all making doesn't really work as well as the 2A crowd is screaming for. We can pressure distributors but they can always go somewhere else which is out of our hands. In the mean time we have pulled every location off out dealer located and Anthony is working some behind the scenes magic to get a better answer Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

Look into the Marlin XT-22YR Bolt action. Inexpensive. Accurate. I purchased my XT-22 for $100 after rebate from Cabela's in Delaware.

You crush my dreams, sir, like so many grapes to make wine. Does it have to "make sense" if they sell a shitload of them?

Used. They were made from 1930-79 with different design changes and model designations. If you found a new one it would probably be worth $2k. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Jezuz man, I thought I told you, Wed nights only, my old lady is in the house tonight.

I also seem to recall you initially said: "Peel! Get an AR-15 in .22!! Yeah!!"

Now now Peel. I advised you to get nice Ruger 10/22 with a heavy barrel and a youth stock, and a decent piece of glass for it first. A weapon of steel and wood. Not a single bit of polymer or Velcro to been seen. Harrumph!

Awesome gun dude, love it. You should get the Crimson Trace laser grips, because every gun needs a laser.

LMAO!! That's ok. I kind of enjoy the meandering nature of these threads. I totally appreciate that everyone's got their "thing". I know I can count on Griz to list affordable battle-tested options, High Exposure will tend to lean towards a SWAT-esque option, Capt14K will list some milsurp and somewhat esoteric collectibles... it's all good! I appreciate all the input, will consider all suggestions, add to my growing list of options, figure out what I want to spend, test-drive some, and ultimately make a choice that suits me. I'm not one to rush a purchase so I find the discussion informative... and entertaining!

In the true tradition of New Jerseyness. This thread went from info about a simple first 22lr rifle to WW2 milsurp and $1.200.00 rifles. Peel, just get yourself a Cricket. or ... I dunno, a 50 BMG semi auto Barrett with a $2,500.00 Swaravski scope too... whatever. Just as absurd. Seriously. Keep it simple. A basic (not necessarily cheap or inaccurate, just BASIC) 22lr bolt action rifle is ideal for learning how to shoot a rifle.

Due to family obligations it's just not that easy for some of us. Believe me, I would if I could!

That is one heck of a rifle. For just a tad less (1/3 of the price) you can get one close to it. Valmet Finnish Lion. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

These are pretty accurate, and adjustable for most shooters

As usual, you either continue to miss the point or are unwilling to consider the point. You dont have to be Jimmy to play the guitar but being able to play gets you a seat at the table. Goofing off with your veridian by yourself isnt going to teach you anything. I gave you good advice. Take it or leave it. But baiting people into contentious discussions with your absolutes and closed minded statements was old years ago. Seriously, knock it off already. I dont mind discussion and some respectful merit based debate. But your constant approach of "this is the correct and final answer" is not productive and in fact it is the kind of posting that will lead to the ignore button or drive off people who are in fact SME's. At a minimum end your absolutes with "for me"!!!! For everyone else, in my opinion a laser has value and merit in low light no light scenarios. The scenario for me that brought it to the forefront was shooting through a windshield in the dark where odd position, odd angle of BG and no ability to even see your sights were all aided in high order by alternate sighting methods and allowed me zero misses on multiple targets.

Summabitch

NONE of us are Jimi Hendrix or professional BMX riders or whatever. Bad comparison. We are citizens who shoot a few times a month and prepare ourselves for what life brings. Nothing more, nothing less. So, the KISS method works for us. We are not kicking in doors in Afghanistan or Newark.

You are speaking from your ass. Having had a green Veridian laser on your handy-dandy Beretta PCC makes you no more of an authority on this topic than owning a guitar makes you Jimmi Hendrix. The KISS concept is applicable to a great many things and I actually am a subscriber - however it needs to be taken in context. Blindly following KISS as an absolute would having you riding a BMX bike in the Tour De France.

PA will issue a non resident CCW ONLY if you have a CCW in your home state. A license is provided for by the laws of NJ and therefore required by PA. It's all a big friggin game and we lose!

LIAR!!!! Again I say: LIAR!!! @Mrs.Zeke ? --- you might want to take care of this problem - this egregious spread of "fake news" to the deficit of your own reputation. Scandalous!

Sorry, it always does work that way.

Quarter inch by three inch nylon bolt from HD/Lowes. Cut the un-threaded bolt section to size and install,two bucks.

we can't even get a lever action 12ga, and you think they're going to design a loading gate?!?!?

Really nice! I have one of the Brazilian contract guns no where near that condition but runs 100%. I used it for a bedside gun for a while.

The case is definitely progressing. NJ filed to dismiss the case and Dan has replied. I should check but I think the judge is supposed to rule next week or the week after. I'll check when I'm not on the road. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

Two things to take away from the incident. #1 Australia already had a very low gun violence crime rate. Their culture and demographics are completely different than here in the USA. It's not fair to compare Ozzy land with the USA. As much as I hate to admit this, they are nicer more decent people who live in a mostly homogeneous society. To say that their gun control worked is like saying "I changed the oil in my honda and it still runs great". #2 This was not a "mass shooting. It was a murder suicide. A mass shooting is when someone walks into a public place (school, theater, concert etc...) and starts shooting indiscriminately. The perp may have a "cause" or some insane reason for the shooting, but they are not intimately familiar with their victims.

since this was commented a bunch of times.. the tube in itself if made correctly.. straight threads and all that would likely not "grenade and throw metal everywhere" like I stated earlier.. I was simply going by the fact that the OP said he shot the gun at a distance where it was virtually impossible to miss.. and the round never made impact.. the concern that created was the the round may have struck the inside of the tube.. with that said.. I stand by the statement that I would not shoot a gun I could not properly aim.. maybe some people disagree.. but to the comment about the whole "being intolerant to someone liking something thats different" or whatever.. I am simply stating my opinion.. I think its silly.. its his money.. he can do whatever he wants.. a gun is a tool to me.. my "black rifles with all their stupid accessories" are function driven.. there is a light.. so I can shoot in the dark.. there is a sling to stabilize the weapon... there is a collapsible stock so I can adjust it to where I want it.. the parts chosen are selected because they server a purpose.. I TOTALLY understand that some people like create a certain "look"... and thats fine and all.. but again.. personally I think its silly.. now in the AK instance.. where you are mounting a fake suppressor to get past the NFA regulations.. thats totally different.. the item serves a use... there really is no need to debate this.. everyone is in to different stuff.. I think the big struggle for me is I used to deal with this a lot when I was into cars.. so its set this conditioning in my mind.. cars that were basically stock.. with lots of "go fast looking" parts... its like playing make believe or something.. LOL there is just something off for it with me.. especially when the end result is a decrease in performance..

As you stated the car was legally parked. Was an accident report filled out? If so, turn it over to the insurance company, they will handle it.

Steak.... Dang i love that.. Best i'v ever been to was peter Luger in brooklyn. Sadly there are not many local places that know how to cook a steak and iv tried a bunch. I was introduced to Texas Road house by @cabalrayz and was very hesitant, even said i will not eat at the McDonalds of steak houses. BUT i must say... its a good piece of meat. Its not Peter Luger's but the 20oz Bone in ribeye is pretty delicious and cooked perfectly to Med Rare. if you have not tired it give it a shot... Its well worth the 20some bucks and really is a quality steak. WARNING: If you have a peanut allergy don't even stop in the parking lot... You will no doubt DIE.

Im in the go for it camp. Why? Because I think there is information to be obtained. For 30 bucks you can get to see how it is to operate a pistol with a hunk of metal hung out front and all the oddities that it brings to the table. You may have learned its not at all what you expected. And if your future plans are to move to America, you may have saved yourself 1k and a 6 month wait to find out the same lessons. Additionally some people, myself included, need to be reminded now and then that sometimes its just for fun.