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You guys need to drop the turban-bashing bullshit. Makes us all look exactly like what they think we are; racist hicks. In no way does bashing his belief system and people further our cause. Want to call him a piece of shit? Have at it. His color, religious beliefs, and what he wears is completely irrelevant. We really all need to stop shooting ourselves in the foot.

Did you see the recent case in NJ where a middle school student was discussing how poor the schools active shooter response plan was? Another student overheard, who told his mother he heard a student talking about shooting and guns. His mother called the school. The school called the police. The police arrived at 9:30pm to confiscate the father's guns. It's hear in the fourms I believe. This law is rife for abuse. With no due process and little to no recourse if it is abused.

Having seen average people struggle with 2D printers, I have faith that we face no danger from the 3D variety.

Lambo's right! This is the 2nd thread I've had to "clean up" (a.k.a. "censor"). I loathe censoring anyone... it'd be easy to push this into the 1A Lounge, but it's an important topic. I want eyes on it. So please behave yourselves, boys! On a personal note... I've found the firearms community at-large to be GREAT - warm, friendly, open - but you'd NEVER get that impression from some of these comments. What if someone has NOT been to a range yet...? And they're just noodling around here to get an impression of us...before starting a firearms hobby? Let's stay mindful of that. If you just need a vent session - go to the unmoderated section. Thx! Don't hate the messenger. xoxo

More like irrational people are promising prosecution if you happen to be in possession of information they deem “illegal”. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

I never gave thought to this stuff either. However, consistent with my earlier post, I have been interested in this topic over recent days strictly for the entertainment of the legal maneuvering and constitutional aspects. I have no interest nor intent to ever make my own firearms. But all of this got me thinking…….. Thinking on a purely hypothetical level, IF one did ever desire to possess these files for some future rainy day; how might one do so? Mmmmmm, said person just might perform the following steps: Bring up their VPN connection Start an Internet Explorer InPrivate browser window. Connect to codeisfreespeach.com Right click and select “Save Target As” for each of the available items. Save them all to a local hard drive folder. Run the Cyberscrub Privacy Guard function to clean up all vestiges of my PC activity. Move said folder containing the files into Cyberscrub’s encrypted “Infinity Safe”. Delete the original folder using Cyberscrub’s Erase Beyond Recovery function. Wait for that future rainy day to arrive. What is Cyberscrub Privacy Suite? It is a PC (not available for mobile) program that can, among it’s other capabilities; identify, locate, and erase beyond recovery all files on your PC that track your application usage and browsing activity. There are hundreds of such places. I purchased a license over ten years ago and renew my subscription every year($19.95 per year.) I highly recommend it as part of your efforts to safeguard your PC and online privacy. Interestingly, in this use case; just like you store your physical guns in a physical safe; here you are storing your logical guns in an impregnable logical safe. And when you die, the password dies with you. (:-)

I seriously wonder if no AGs or elected officials had made a big deal over this, if anyone would have even cared about the release of these files. By making a big deal, people have been MORE inclined to download them. Making them harder to access means people will seek out other alternatives and ways to find the files. Based on reactions, it seems like many were not aware of gun instructions being available online for many years. Now that they can't get em from DD, they are much more likely to come across the plans on other sites, as well as for plans like the sheet metal ar lower, sten plans, zip guns, or even the brass or aluminum can -based lowers. Maybe others didn't know about 80% lowers before, or AK or G3 or MP5 blanks. While not as easy as 'open file, print' - I suspect that making a huge deal out of this has opened the eyes of thousands of people who might decide now is a good time to start a fun new project and make their own gun.

KEEPNG THIS IN A PUBLIC FORUM FOR WIDEST VIEW - so, pls... no vulgarities, personal attacks, unpleasant nicknames, etc! This is an alarming article.. to me anyway... about Florida's new risk protection order law (a law which allows temporary confiscation of guns/ammo). I only mention it in this section, because of NJ's similar new law prompted by the very same Parkland event... and I'm thinking Florida's law may give us some insights into what's coming with our own in terms of actual implementation). This law has already been used OVER 450 TIMES to confiscate guns and ammo from Floridians. First of all, my god... is it me, or does that number seem stunningly high considering the law is only coming up on 5 months old? It's mentioned that some of these cases were suicidal people. So, ummm… at best, I guess they ordered a 72-hour psych hold? If that? And then what? They sent them home... to a house full of: Knives? Razor blades? Rope? Pills? Mmm, yeah...that's "common sense". On camera, a Pinellas county officer (reassuringly?) states, "we're not out hunting people down..." and yet the accompanying article mentions that particular department already has a 5-man team solely dedicated to pursuing these orders...? Huh? Seriously? Soooo, based on one terrible shooting... by a kid that put out TONS of signals that every official ignored... now there's such a pressing problem that it requires a 5-man dedicated team in just one Florida county to run around filing these orders against people? (It mentions other Florida counties have dedicated teams, too). Wow, wow... and... just WOW! Talk about Monday Morning Quarterbacking! Based on crime statistics, wouldn't all these labor hours be better directed at following up on career criminals/gangbangers and the like? So, I suspect this new Florida law is already being abused. And that's in FLORIDA... what is still a largely gun-friendly state. Believe me, I don't wish to gin up a paranoid line of thinking (as these threads are sometimes known to travel)... but I can't help but wonder how our similar law will be implemented here, in what is arguably a gun- and 2A-"unfriendly" state..? I anticipate a very bumpy ride ahead. Link: https://www.guns.com/2018/07/31/over-450-floridians-have-been-hit-with-orders-to-give-up-guns-under-new-law-videos/

I bought a few. They're en route to me. Delivering Monday. Not expensive CobraTecs. Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk

I was in this exact situation, before i got into shooting i was a member on here asking questions, etc... There's some great people on here, but the stereotypes out there as far as gun owners go is far from the truth. Lets not feed the antis and turn people away. The 2nd amendment applies to everyone, including those who wear Turbans. Hell, i'm 24, a father of two, am Jewish, and am a Dual American/Israeli citizen.. just sayin.

I'll be carrying my OTF backed up by a business card that I am a collector and dealer in small arms and cutlery if I ever visit NJ again.

Because he was in his home. They reference prior decision on carpet knife as being still valid. That one was guilty. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Howard, I hate to break it to you but you do pay taxes in FL. There are included in your rent. Also, when you went to DMV to re-register your plates and get new DLs I'm sure.they didn't do it for free. FL also has a sales tax.of between 6 - 8%. I know it's much more "free" in FL, but it ain't FREE! LOL. And while 5 days is good, and light years beyond New Jermany, let's not forgot there really should be no need.to ask for permission to exercise a right. Maybe you were out in the amazing FL sun a little too long when you wrote that. Hope you and the family are loving FL!

Just read the entire decision. Verrrry interesting. Gives you an insight into the mind of the legislators (or their aides who wrote it) at the time the original 2C:39 & 58 were proposed as bills and negotiated over.

I knew you would....

Great idea! I'll cover that.

My wife hates you.

In my opinion, the changes that the legislature made to the state duty to warn law have far worse implications the a 10 round magazine limit. "Duty to warn" now exists for suicidality as well as homicidality, even if the person is voluntary for treatment. This includes police checking for and possibly revoking a firearms id card of anyone in the household as well as removing firearms from the house, even if they are not owned by the identified patient. This is what happened to that kid in the middle school in Monmouth county. And by the way..... it wasn't just democrats that voted for this one. My senator (Doherty) was one of only 5 senators who voted no on this one. Even my republican supposedly 2a assemblymen Peterson and Demaio didn't vote no and conveniently abstained from voting. What this means in real life terms is that any public comment or joke about firearms, violence, suicide, or depression, can result in you having guns confiscated, whether by honest statements or being taken out of context by someone like a school employee. The video made reference to things needing to be "black and white." This is a very gray area and institutions like schools are going to be more scared with reporting concerns that will now have more far reaching implications. I have always been against making jokes about guns and violence, and now the stakes are much higher. The sad irony is that this law equally applies to law enforcement. The legislature has basically amended a law that will encourage people NOT to talk about depression likely creating more bad situations that will be devoid of "warning signs."

Because many people are irrational?

Check out cold steel knifes. I love the mini tuff lites but sadly they don't make them anymore .

Exactly. So I think that answers Paul's question about not being allowed to carry for self defense in NJ. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Self defense would fall under use against a person or property. However self defense is a valid defense. Though it is a chicken or an egg type situation. If one is carrying for self defense they are carrying for use against a person. So illegal. However if one were to use a knife they were carrying for a legal purpose and used it in self defense legal. That is my interpretation. Doesn't make sense but this is NJ. https://knifeup.com/new-jersey-knife-laws/ Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk That is my reading of the law. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Ok. Deal

Yeah, I did see that. Based on Florida's numbers... I now expect to hear MANY MORE cases like that one. This is starting to look like the Salem witch trials, I swear!

Have you checked out AR section here? @Golf battery good peoples. What questions do you have? Only cleaning tip i got yelled at for was not doing the extractor. Holy shit was it gummy with brass. Sooo take bcg all the way apart when cleaning.

That rifle looks about perfect. Can’t be over what? 8lbs? Plus, I’d rather have an extra pound or so and a more capable rifle than a lighter-weight AR pistol with a shorter barrel and associated degradation in terminal ballistics. What exactly is “light enough” in your opinion and why do you need it so light? Are you planning on carrying it for days through mountainaous terrain? Is it too heavy to bring to the range in your car? Is it too heavy to shoulder and shoot without using a bench? You reach a point of diminishing returns when shaving weight on a rifle. A very light rifle is more fatiguing to shoot fast and accurate than a slightly heavier rifle is to carry.

This is insane Any decent machine shop has been capable of making REAL gunz for over a hundred years. CNC machining makes it even easier. Someone figures out how to make a crappy rendition in plastic on a computer printer, and the country goes nutz.

Renewe your license,with the old address.

that's pretty much where i'm at. the only reason i want it now, is literally because they're trying to stop us from having it.

If your Geolocation by IP says NY or another state, you're fine. I tried from my phone and it said the 451 blocked message.

Last week, Giffords, Brady Campaign and Bloomberg filed a suit agaist Cody as well. It was dismissed the next day. Cant wait to see NJ have to pay Cody for this lawsuit haha

military speak for "opposing forces" basically the bad guys

Are NJ Dems this stupid or this brazen? They are handing us ammo for the magazine limit lawsuit. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Can you say 14th..... I hope they do.....