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I was a Deputy Sheriff for 7 years in a full service Sheriff's Office where we answered 911 calls and patrolled streets (most Sheriff's in NJ don't answer calls or have a patrol division). I was in an area of about 100,000 locals with 2 million annual visiting tourists to Mt Rushmore every year and another 500,000 to 1 million bikers coming to the Sturgis Rally every August. We had every crime the major cities have, just not always as often as they have it, but I know what its like to be a cop. Job #1 is stay safe and go home at the end of the day. That does not mean you can't treat people with RESPECT. We had a good relationship with the community because the effort was made to be professional, even when tackling someone and had cuffing them. I've had people apologise for resisting because I pick them up, dust them off and continue calling them sir as I put them in the back seat for that trip to jail. With my experience and training in the profession (I'm no longer in LE, I'm back in the military) I would agree with most of you that the culture within the law enforcement community in NJ is bad. These cops have the perception as being assholes because they are robotic and impersonal and talk to people like they're 2nd class citizens. They really have a bad way of projecting themselves and they are either not aware of it or do not care. I suspect it's a bit of both. They probably don't care that people don't like them because they deal with 1% of society but that 1% is always the bad people. It's easy to get into your mind that "everyone is a criminal" because everyone you deal with is a criminal. After a while, if 100% of the people you deal with are criminals, you think 100% of society is that way and you start treating them that way. What they probably are not aware of is the fact that a lot of citizens already have a disdain for the government as a whole because we are over-taxed, over-regulated and are sick to death of crooked politicians at every level from local school boards all the way up to the Governor. Cops are part of the same government so their image is affected by that as well. I'll end this here since its really off topic for the thread title.

Well, actually, government workers make like 30% more in public service versus the same position in private companies, so to start with, they're overpaid, and that's before the benefit package they get, thanks to the contribution of your tax dollars. I won't even touch on the differences in productivity of a government worker versus a private sector worker.

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Why are you getting rid of your mags now? There may well be an injunction in the coming days and SCOTUS is looking great for us! Keep what you can as long as you can! I spoke with a local gun dealer who told me a crazy number of people in the PRNJ are selling off their guns because they are afraid of what Trenton will ban next. I for one am not willing to give up my magazines, my guns or my Constitutional rights that easily!

.68" group is respectable. The hard part is repeating that performance. If you keep your groups about 1" then I'd say you pretty much have it down. I'd be satisfied with consistent 3/4" groups. Unless you're the kind of guy that wants to squeeze every bit of accuracy you can get. Nothing wrong with that.

I saw in the picture that it looks like you're using a bipod on a table - try swapping the bipod out with a sandbag or shooting bag and see if that helps tighten the group up a little by helping you to control the "bounce" a little. I normally don't use a bipod unless I'm shooting prone. If I'm shooting from a bench I use a front and rear bag combo. Keep it up though, the more you practice (and focus on the fundamentals) the more you'll improve.

Like everything else it takes time to learn. Practice makes perfect. Watch your breathing. What ammo were you using?

Sorry to hear about your seizure. I'd recommend taking any advice you get from the forum with a grain of salt and consulting ith your attorney before taking any action. That said, I tend to agree with those who have said they magazines are yours to alter or dispose of and NOT the property of the police department. Unless they reimburse you for the full retail cost, I'd say you should demand them back. At a minumum you could sell them or trade them for different magazines. Good luck

Last update on this thread for me. Gun still functions great, so I just have to lean how to shoot it. Went out this morning for a while and did a bit better than the first time: Group 5 was a hair under an inch and group 3 was a hair over. Group 4 was .68 so in the 2 weeks I've been shooting with a bolt gun that's the best one. I tried to write down a lot of things I was doing so I can remember for next time. Goal is to regular improvement.

I don't have a salt water rod or else I would have.

many blue in the family and let me tell you, all that matters is the contract and pension. Cops could care less about the orders they are given to follow and agree, cops have not endeared themselves to the constitution or the people they serve. Cops have most definitely become outsiders to their communities. Just go in any station and listen to them refer to us as as civilians......

that's hardly the point could not agree more. Before any new taxes on the public, gov't needs to be gutted and made more efficient

The 911 taxes collected out of every phone bill go into the same hole, not one party does anything about it, FCC should do something about it but no they just report it. politicians keep complaining about the pension system, fact is they will never do anything about it as long as they can keep manipulating it to their advantage, pension system will remain. police chiefs will still be retiring after 25 yrs and 0 sick days and walk away with 1/2 million dollar payouts.

Went to go warm it up last night....... and she ate almost all of it! Going to have to make this again in the near future. And hide it from my wife.

Obama did the same thing in 2010-2012. It was foolish then; its foolish now. You cannot say you want to entice the "best and brightest" into government service; then pay them crap.

@Sniper22: I think we ALL here can agree that NJ's Democrat controlled state legislature are a bunch of political hacks and loony toons....., regardless of their Party affiliation. The consistent demonstration of their lack of common sense, ineptitude, self-interest, bordering on corruption, is legion and very disheartening, yet that most likely will not really change for the foreseeable future. AVB-AMG

Wow, look at that, I actually agree with you on something. This 4.3 cents, by itself, is small potatoes, based on personal monthly spending.. But, it was that last 22 cent jump which was the crappy part, passed by the DEMOCRAT legislature in Trenton, I might add.

Sorry folks, Stevie Wonder could see this coming. Notice how they structured the gas tax increase last time? They don't need to vote for an increase ever again. Al that has to happen is have the Gov certify that revenue doesn't meet the required level and - poof - the gas tax goes up. Get ready for it - tomorrow they all start claiming they don't support this new increase but it's out of their hands.

You mean it wasn’t a one-time thing? I love they blame Christie. “It’s his fault for enabling us to suck off the NJ drivers tits”

I read that as well. Sucks. also read that analysts are predicting gas to drop 25 cents a gallon in the fall. Hopefully we see some relief.

I still don't understand why people put so much trust in these reloading companies. They always seem to have issues. Not saying factory ammo doesn't but for the same price, I'm going factory.

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You guys need to stop posting in this thread until there is actual news. I get nervous when I see it pop up in my feed.

If the military and law enforcement members are going to obey unconstitutional orders from their superiors, then YES, they will be the enemy of the Citizenry. Just like if UN troops are sent into the US to enforce UN mandates. Isn't that why powder blue helmets glow in the dark??

Nor in german

I may go get a bear permit this year.......just to )&)*& him off.......