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https://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/08/murphy_makes_yet_another_move_to_combat_gun_violen.html Murphy wants to "name and shame" states that follow the constitution, Hey A-hole how about naming and shaming the judges, prosecutors, and AG's who constantly release and plea criminals out. How about naming the criminals who commit these gun crimes and tell us how many PRIOR felonies they have as well as the JUDGES who keep letting them out to prey on us.

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My generator shit the bed last week when I went to give it it's quarterly exercise under load, so....... we are going to get hammered. That is, unless I fix the generator in the next 24 hours, then the storm will track elsewhere.

In all honesty, I would not trust a 1911 with my life. Now, if in some weird world where I fell into a ditch and those two guns where sitting there and I needed one to save my life? I'd grab boff. Chamber check each one, put one in my wasteband and make motha effa's red until the gun be empty. Then NY reload and spray kats some more.

Sniper22 --- You guys! Always picking on the wives! LOL. If a guy's wife doesn't like to shoot, she's raining on his parade... but if she does like to shoot - @Zeke, @Greenday - then she's commandeering the weaponry - like a bitch - and spending too much on ammo. Complain, complain, complain...you boys are never happy! I'm sure Mrs. Greenday will let him shoot. (That is, assuming he did all his chores that week... ) Greenday, you know you're going to have to get your own gun soon or the guys on here will never let you hear the end of it. LOL.

100 yard indoor range is nice to have available if you want to zero a rifle during the winter.

If you'll settle for 38 spl the Taurus 85 is a bargain. You can order them on line for 300 or less. I'd recommend the all stainless. It's heavier but the extra weight goes a long way to absorb recoil. Many of the alloy J frame size revolvers are painful to shoot. I carry factory wadutters for a SD load in any J frame size gun. You don't gain much carrying +Ps in a short barrel and get more recoil and muzzle blast. The factory wadcutter is already in an efficient shape, has sufficient penetration, and low recoil and muzzle blast. I have a few of Taurus revolvers and have no issue with them. If you want a 357 get at least a K frame size gun. I carry a S&W Model 66 2 1/2" often loaded with std velocity 38s, +Ps, or +P+. You really don't get a lot more velocity using magnums and once again more recoil and muzzle blast. A used Model 66 might be found for 500 but will likely be more. A Ruger Speed Six is a fine 2 3/4" K frame size gun. They are kind of indestructible and much stronger than a K frame S&W. Used only but you can find them for 500. If you're looking for a SD gun you can't beat the Taurus 85 IMO. 38 only but we've discussed that already. Plus you'll spend only about half of your budget. I have one I bought in 1989 and it's been trouble free for almost 30 years.

Yep, Lewis broke up one of the most memorable love scenes of all time...

your going to get 5 pages of responses, but i have a taurus model 85 and love it. all steel not the ultralight. great shooter and not expensive. go handle a bunch and make a decision that works for you.

It might be a guy thing with cars, it was a funny movie, Jackie Gleason also helped. But a lot of actors make really stupid movies and get paid really stupid money, because we go watch them and spend really stupid money. RIP Bandit

RIP Bandit..... One of my all time favorite movies..... one of the reasons I am a Pontiac nut today.....

Yeah, I just saw that on cable. Now, a lot of you won't like this opinion... but that guy starred in more ridiculously STUPID movies than you could shake a stick out. Smokey and the Bandit being right at the top (or is it the bottom?) of that list. However, he played the character "Lewis" in Deliverance... and that made it all worthwhile. Great movie. And he was perfect in that role as the rugged survivalist-minded outdoorsman. Best role of his career IMO. Rest in peace.

New range opening this month (Hopefully). Absecon, NJ. Opening was drastically delayed, I'm guessing probably permit stuff but I don't really know. Two indoor ranges. A 25 yard pistol/rimfire range and a 100 yard rifle range. Target system will be digital so you can set the exact distance you want. Decent hours. 9am-9pm Mon-Sat and 9am-6pm Sun. Huge show room. I can't wait! Anyone else planning on checking it out once it opens?

Bought this beauty off 1563621 today. Apparently all original except the op rod is a National Match. Gauges 1 and 1 with a bright shiny bore. We have a date this Sunday at Range-14.

ha, amen Ray in true fashion, grab both!!!!!!!! Great post Shane, can't argue with that!

I've got plenty of suggestions for you then. Drew Estate Herrera Esteli Norteño - Coronita (Older ones) or Short Corona Gorda (newer ones) Drew Estate - Liga Privada No. 9/T52 or Undercrown Maduro/Shade Coronitas (Cigarillo tins) Warped Corto Warped El Oso Cub Arturo Fuente Hemingway Short Story Tatuaje Tattoo Needles Tatuaje Havana VI Verocu No. 9 Liga Privada Unico Papas Fritas MUWAT BaitFish/NightCrawler Davidoff Primeros Nicaragua LFD La Nox Petite AJ Fernandez Last Call CAO MX2 Dagger Crowned Heads La Imperiosa Magicos

Pennsy & Delaware are saying the same about NJ....

If you live in an urban or suburban area you'll be bugging in, not bugging out. Plan accordingly.

Agreed, good respectful discussion and debate. Im personally not a fan of forum reviews for pistols. The math is to much for me to parse. I think you can get a good sense of a common issues from them but thats about it. What I mean is what is the calculation to figure out the psychology of the dude that paid 4k for a 1911 and how nitpicky he may be vs the dude that paid 600 and doesn't really have an expectation? Whats the calculation to figure out the ratio of bad reviews for a manufacturer that puts out 100,000 pistols vs one that puts out a tenth of that and tie that back to expectations. I am more talking about the attention to detail on the internals and the materials used that will aid in its reliability and durability. We could talk all day about anecdotal and meaningful samples. Which is why Im not talking about customer RIA"s I have worked on, the sample is too small. But I am really getting in the weeds here. My original point was that I will and many others will pay a high premium for the additional work done by hand to insure long time reliability and build quality for critical use. Same thing for optics, but more of a refinement in manufacturing perspective. If Holosun made an optice that was found to be bomb proof and matched all abilities of an aimpoint and thus got adopted and field proven equivalent to what Aimpoint has accomplished then by all means I would use it in a critical scenario and enjoy the savings! But I haven't seen any other optic maker achieve that.... yet.

shit goes down in NYC area, sum1 should blow up the bridges/tunnels and keeping those f*ckers (NYers) on the island. dont need anymore liberals bullsh*t in NJ. hopefully, they can float off into the atlantic forever.

True - Being required to work is one of the valid reasons (on some insurance policies).

I've cruised in October and December. No issues. If you get Travel Insurance though, it will cover hurricanes.

couldn't disagree more, just go their forums. Tell you guys what, I'll post some links with some 'return reviews'. once again, we are not talking about rocket science here. We are talking about a 100yr old design that was even copied by the japs during the waning stages of ww2 for combat and guess what, they worked! Wilson is pretty, it's made with great attention to detail but let's not kid ourselves, they have owners with issues just like anyone else.

I was gonna put quote marks around that part, but was TRYING to keep calm, didn't want to start ranting. Getting more and more P.O.ed every week with what the "people in charge here" are doing to what used to be a great place to live. (and there I go,,,,,,,rant truncated) Thank YOU for adding the proper emphasis to it for me.

Well myhatinthering, I think I know my way around a 1911 fairly well. Dave Sample was my teacher on building 1911's. I know what it takes to build one right. And after working on a few customer RIA's and having hands on a number of Wilsons, Ed Browns, etc etc the difference is much more than looks. Dont make the mistake that thinking just because its more expensive it cant be better. But I digress, the POINT was that Holosuns and RIA's may be a good value and meets the needs of many. But when you cross the line into criticality, the value proposition means a lot less.

Steel snubbie, Taurus 85 (or 605 if your frisky) all day. Light weight snubbie, Ruger LCR all day. I have two, working on a third.

It is a very good example, but like @myhatinthering said, the RIA are built to be used and abused. The Wilson Combat is, in all seriousness, built to look at in your safe, show your boys at the range, shoot tiny groups, clean her religiously and put her back in the safe. Which is also why the PA and holosun optics sell so well, cause they get used and abused. Nobody is throwing their AR around if it has a 600 dollar red dot on top with a 100 dollar mount. But, drop the price by half and shit gets banged up, scratched, dropped and worn. I know I know, @Shane45 is gonna say he abuses his high end stuff. But he got $$$$.

Hope he tore through the Pearly Gates in a Trans Am, t-tops off, as Saint Peter waved him on in.

R.I.P. Burt Reynolds

These threads look relevant ..

You can use any kind of grease. I use Mobil 1 Synthetic grease. I like the red color, it sticks well, and doesn't harden up with time or the cold.

You got the molASSES part right.

Phrasing?

Plastic looks like this. The oil is dried up and almost looks crystallized.

@Ray Ray it boils down to your life, your dollars.. and then good reputation and costumer service.. now for other stuff? Why not? But Id prefer to not vary to much on the “ manual of arms” with what I plink with.. after all, @High Exposure @GRIZ Say practice makes perfect permanence. And isn’t it all practice? Practically

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Well, we do know that hurricane season comes every year at this time. Does that help?

If you have the opportunity go to an outdoor range. It can be a much more pleasant experience for a new shooter (as long as it is a nice sunny day).

You won't see a 5 Rd limit. My understanding was that NY considered this. The problem is, outside of some 5 Rd magazines made for rifles for hunting, there are no 5 Rd magazines made for most guns. This would have made virtually all magazine fed guns single shots. Ever see a 5 Rd magazine for a 1911 or Glock? NY knew they'd lose on 5 Rd magazines so they went with 10 and only loading them to 7. Why 7? 7 days in the week? 7 orifices in the head? Who knows.

@babagan00sh: FYI - RTSP in Randolph, NJ has two ranges, one is 25-yards and the other is 15-yards, with ten (10) shooting bays in each. They are separated by an acoustical door. The 25-yard range is where rifles are used exclusively. Both ranges have electronic target retrieval systems. That might be one option for you and your wife to consider, in order to avoid the louder acoustical and physical concussion felt when shooting next to or near someone shooting a rifle. AVB-AMG

I think we might need to be patient. This is probably the biggest case of this judges career. No matter what he decides, the other side will appeal to the 3rd Circuit. There is an excellent chance that whatever he does will be part of the record on a case that will be heard by the Supreme Court. He isn’t just going to bang out an answer. He is going to do his homework, research case law and dot every “I” and cross every “t”. Don’t be shocked if we wait a while for this.

It's a matter of catching them. Bear are omnivores and will eat small mammals. From what I've been told bear have a hard time catching a grown deer but at times catch fawns. That only contributes to a well fed bear. That still leaves the bear problem though. I'm not a hunter but have nothing against it if one eats what they kill or it is a nuisance or predator like groundhog or coyote. I can even justify trophy hunting to a degree. You need to realize how much a trophy hunter puts into the economy and the meat is not wasted. As I said earlier, relocating a bear has to cost at least several hundred dollars vs collecting a fee for the license and letting the hunter relocate the bear to their freezer. Another advantage to hunting is bears and other animals learn. A friend moved from Morris County to a PA where there is a substantial bear population. He was plagued by bears when he lived in Morris County and I asked him about the bear problem in PA. He said it wasn't as bad as NJ as the bears fear humans because they get shot at in PA. I saw the same thing when I lived in AZ with coyotes. I lived on a National Park and the coyotes had no fear of humans at all because they weren't shot at. They would often stalk little kids. A few miles away on the IndIan reservation the coyotes fled at the sight of a human. They were always shot on sight by the Indians as the coyotes would attack and kill or maim their cattle.