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Isn’t this old news? We knew the district court denied the appeal and ANJRPC has already filed to the US Court of Appeals. Not sure the NJSC has anything to do with it since it is a federal case.

Mrs. Peel nailed it! I have believed exactly this for a long, long time. Those who value independence, personal responsibility, liberty, and freedom are independent thinkers. We're so independent that we can't even work together. Those who fear independence, personal responsibility, liberty, and freedom are looking for someone to tell them what to think, what to do, and how to feel. It's easy to organize and lead those on the left. It's impossible to organize and lead those on the right.

Expect longer lines at the post office on Dec 9... If we tell the clerk the box contains only magazines, will it qualify to ship at the cheaper book rate?

My understanding is it is likely the only way* unless you work as an armed guard. If you do not know any politicians and judges, and have not helped significantly fund their campaign and/or lifestyle, then I suggest you get proof of actual, valid threats. You still won't qualify (yet) until you are actually murdered, at which point you may qualify. You may need to be murdered 2 or 3 times before NJ will actually issue you one. *not including the people who have already been murdered, who might only now qualify for getting one.

There really is no reason for a pistol purchase permit any more now that FTF sales have been effectively banned. FTF sales was the only rationale left for needing to go through a background check to get a PPP. With that gone all handgun transfers are subject to background checks at the dealer, so the PD check is now officially needless redundant bureaucracy that is wasting police resources and tax payer money. Anyone want to file a lawsuit?

Works everywhere else pretty good also

Works up here just fine

Peel you're more stimulating than a cattle prod! Interesting how (almost) everybody is answering the dollars part of your (welcomed by at least ME) diatribe but not the doughnuts part The opinionated keyboard commando always has the best answer, the ONLY answer that will solve whatever problem is being ban-tied about. Too slow, too little, too late is still better than whatever they've personally done (which is nuthin' or next to it in most cases). The "Us"-ers need to learn to work TOGETHER for a common good instead of stepping on their own schlongs (oh do they really think they're THAT long?)! Our side starts-out every day at an extreme disadvantage. We trot-in to the field of battle wearing our blaze orange and get picked-off one at a time by snipers. We fight "fair" instead of "dirty", and we even argue about what "fair" IS.....and it's got to STOP! Keep beating them over their heads until they squeal. We need to vote this mid-term!

IT SHOULD END RIGHT THERE!!! CASE OVER!!! its like Comey playing out the case for Hillary and concluding the complete opposite of the facts just stated! So tired of these liberal democrat wipped judges setting/legislating policy.

Recommend listening to the 10/07 American Armed Radio podcast. The guest in the first hour is Allen Gottlieb, head of the 2nd Amendment Foundation. He has stated in the past, and mentioned again in the above podcast that: You need four SCOTUS votes to grant cert but 5 to Win. Ie "If you don't have the 5 votes to win, you won't get the 4 votes to grant cert." As mentioned in prior posts, this is to not risk an unfavorable decision becoming the law of the land forever. Hopefully, we will now start seeing 2A cases get Cert. Mr. Gottleib also stated the SAF has two cases awaiting cert during the current SCOTUS calendar. So they may the first ones to watch.

We shoot other things sometimes...

It is time for us to start attacking on every front and every issue, not just mag limits how about bayonet lugs, flash hiders, suppressors, how many non-prohibited lawful constitutional following gun owners in NJ utilized a fixed bayonet to commit a crime, I'll bet a years salary that the number of NJ politicians that committed felonies is higher. How about transporting, hollow points, FFL out of your garage, stand your ground.....the list is endless

They have financial backing that we don't. Many Groups won't take money from the Koch Brothers. Stupid if you ask me. They are funded by Soros and Bloomberg. That is the answer right there. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I have a few; when i am in the Familly room i like to use my Beretta Nano in 9MM. for the kitchen i go with my taurus model 85 in 38spl. now the dinning room things are different - i go full on 1911 in 45ACP. up in the bedroom i usually go with my PPQ or MR9 (both in 9mm). and when i leave the house i carry my... oh wait... sorry couldnt resist! actually when i am in florida i do carry a Beretta nano in 9 in an alien gear IWB holster. Simple rig that is very comfy. cheers!

Here's my perspective on US (the 2A community) vs. THEM (the gun control types): US: We're fiercely independent. And so, we squabble. We argue about the 2A. We argue about the 1A. We argue about whose guns (ammo, holster, etc.) are better. We complain about the various 2A orgs. We complain they don't file enough lawsuits. When they file, we complain it's too slow, too little, too late. We refuse to give enough money to fund the lawsuits that we say we want. We don't pony up with enough volunteer hours. We get snarky when they ask for our time or money. We're impatient for results. We insult and tick off the people doing the heavy lifting. We're playing a short game. THEM: They work together. They demonstrate a lemming-like level of cooperation. They put "mission first", all else second. They shut down or expel doubters. They happily peddle in false studies and misinformation if it moves them towards the goalpost. They keep a "big picture" view. They are relentless. They recruit the young aggressively. They exploit crime victims shamelessly. They band together even when it's not their fight. They're playing a long game. Case in point... with the MESS that our state is in financially and every other way, our governor took the time to direct his attorney general to file a "friend of the court" brief re: that carry case in Hawaii. Just think about that for a minute, pls! Our state is going broke, we have a state pension system that is unsustainable, the highest taxes in the nation, the most congestion, a crumbling, inadequate infrastructure... and yet, the long arm of OUR attorney general (paid for by OUR tax dollars) is being used to manipulate a case happening in a state nearly 5,000 miles away. As a taxpayer, if that doesn't tick you off... then I have no words. Don't kid yourself, THIS is why they're making progress! https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2018/10/02/anti-gun-states-gun-grabber-groups-band-together-fight-pro-gun-decision/

Darwin.. this country has shifted so far from personal responsibility it’s pathetic. What’s more pathetic is that some feel they are special, should be more free, or tell others how to live their life.. and what they need.. Unsafe behavior at a range calls for removal... if it cannot be corrected. Work one for a day

I can see Clarence and Brett having a bro hug..

Everyone should get a concealed carry permit.

That's the typical Liberal B.S. response to CCW, that it will turn into the wild west. Is that how urban areas like Dallas, Austin, Houston, Phoenix, Miami, etc. are now? Tons of people dying daily because of all the CCW holders shooting up the place?

Owner of Bob's Little Sport Shop in Glassboro, NJ.

no one is accusing Bob of being anti CCW in NJ. He will be the first to admit he is against CCW here because the state is too densely populated and it would turn into the wild West if we could carry! He has a carry permit though! 2A is about keep an bear. Bob is cool with the keep part only. To me, you are either for or against the Second Amendment.

Whos' bob viden?

No Surpise here these Judges are asshole buddies with the politicians. Thank God For President Trump, Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavannaugh!

Bubbaj, that is quite a collection of fishing gear! Can you post a pic? Would love to see how you have your 4,500 rods and reels stored and organized.

Out of state dealers only have one obligation to follow the laws of another state. Federal law permits a FFL to sell a long gun to an out of state resident if the sale would be legal in both states.

There is NO CCW permit in our state regardless of your profession! Thank the Democrats and Bob Viden in Glassboro for that! Think about that @Lambo2936 before you visit his shop!

I highly doubt it!

I was answering a general question from @Sniper22regarding whether Cabela's would sell a rifle that is banned in NJ to a NJ resident. My response had nothing to do with your situation which was totally unfair and uncalled for! I hope you get your shotgun for free! Sorry for the misunderstanding neighbor!

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Start and finish with the same number of fingers. Very important! And pretty much all the knowledge I have with wood working.

we need to get as many gun cases to the sc as possible now!

Nothing. Call me a pessimist. Go ahead. When Obama was president and the Democrats had the house, states couldn't even drug test for welfare without an emergency injuctions stopping it. Compare that to Republicans having the house, Senate and presidency, yet can't even get things like National Reciprocity, let stop having places like NJ, NY, CA etc. Trample all over people's rights.

Also, here is another picture of how ambient light can fuck you up. This is a brightly lit vestibule in an apartment building in daytime. This was from a force in force training in another state. I was not in the class, but someone sent me these pics. without WML: with WML:

One of the biggest fails in this country is when Congress failed to pass a bill in the 1980's to make English the official language. This country would look entirely different today if that had happened. This fail is in large part the reason many people no longer assimilate into our society.

Doing a build for my son, and I was stupid enouph to ask him what color he wants. Well, here it is

Rosie, you made my day!

If you had said 350 rounds through it well you’d have a deal. But 386 rounds is just abusive. What were you thinking?

HA! I'm not sayin' give up the fight! NO WAY, NO HOW! I just merely stood-up for us old coots that still shoot the Holy Black. Someone posted a pic saying, in effect, "NJ will be happy when all we have is black powder". Then I identified the rifle in question. THAT's ALL I DID, so apologies if I "TRIGGERED" you, lol! Here's a peek into my head: It is better to know HOW to use something, even if you don't own it, so IF the need ever manifests itself you'll KNOW instead of not knowing. Analogy: You're at the range and someone new to black powder is shooting close to your lane/port. He/she does something that puts everyone at risk--like leaving a can of powder or a powder measure at the firing line were an errant spark from a discharge could mean trouble (an explosion on the firing line). If you KNOW what NOT to do (even though you don't own a black powder firearm) you can chat with the shooter & schmooze the potential risk away w/o making a scene. Maybe even make a new friend that lets you shoot his/her gun (so you have all the FUN & none of the MESS that black powder is known for)? Another analogy: Shooter has a new-to-them M-1 Garand & isn't sure how to load a clip into the rifle OR how to load loose ammo into an en-bloc clip. Gets the clip into the rifle W/O HELP but gets light hits on the primers & rifle no go BANG. You chat him/her up and watch them load another clip, and when they do so the gun's Op Rod is operated slowly as the first round is chambered. Like they're actuating a bolt gun. Even if YOU don't own one, you've correctly diagnosed the trouble as operator error. Not letting the Op Rod slam home means the extractor hasn't fully seated over the case, and the bolt face is a tiny bit away from the case when it's "in-battery". The "fix" is to show the owner how to "slap that bitch so it behaves" and the extractor engages & jumps-over the rim of the .30-06 cartridge so the firing pin can do its' job. Welcome to the world of being me, a Chief Range Safety Officer. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

It's not Diversity that's killing the country, it's Divisiveness. Diversity is simply the representation of multiple races/colors/creeds/religion/etc. When most people think about guns, they think about old white guys holding up Garands saying "get off my lawn". You go to a gun club meeting - what do you see there? Mostly old white guys. Tony's Diversity shoot brings out everyone. Black, White, Asian, Hispanic, Gay, Straight, Vegan, whatever. Whatever brings more people into shooting, I get behind fully. I normally go and run a port - bringing some fun guns for people to try out.

The mockery is cruel... and duly noted...… The ban hammer should be swinging any minute now....

What happens if a state continues to go further into debt? Where does it end? Nothing happens. There is no end. They can spend, spend, and spend. The citizens keep paying, paying, and paying.

I have read all the posts in this thread, and I have come to the conclusion that I know less now than I did when I first clicked on this thread.

Ha! Better than discussing arsenal marks and cartouches on an 1823 Dinglehopper.

the link you posted is aluminum.. the threads are in the middle somewhere.. I THINK pinning that is going to be a real task..

If your a judge you can leave your multiple handguns in your car, where they get stolen overnight..

All my mags get loaded prior to the range. Especially if I’m paying by the hour. Neener neener! [emoji6] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I believe the loaded mag in the trunk issue derives from a case several years ago on another state. The guy was charged with loaded firearm as the prosecutor interpreted the law as "any part of the firearm is loaded". The charge was eventually dropped. This is the only case I ever heard of with someone being charged with this. Since then everyone has this loaded magazine thing. I know Nappen suggests unloaded magazines but I don't see how he justifies it.