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If someone can't respect your right to carry on your own property, why should you respect their opinion? If gun owners are just gonna hide and "blend in", then we are supressing our own culture.

If avoiding unnecessary and unrewarding contact with NJ LE and the judicial system is considered 'pussified' then... MEOW!

A 17 may be an MOA rifle for a few rounds but when it heats up that pencil barrel it wont be. Ive never come across a .25 moa semi at any price.

I don't carry a firearm openly to start trouble, either. I also refuse to not do it just because someone gonna get their panties in a bunch. I don't care to have a conversation with the cops, either. However, if they want to infringe further upon my rights, illegally at that, I would not care much about them showing up and any legal issues that precipitate. I know Im not breaking any laws, and the last thing cops will get involved in is a civil dispute between neighbors. You guys complain about NJ guns laws all the fucking time, then you add even more restrictions for personal reasons! Then complain when they pass more gun laws!

Yup. NJians have officially been pussified. Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk

Title 2C - 39 "e. Nothing in subsections b., c. and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent a person keeping or carrying about his place of business, residence, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, any firearm, or from carrying the same, in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section, from any place of purchase to his residence or place of business, between his dwelling and his place of business, between one place of business or residence and another when moving, or between his dwelling or place of business and place where such firearms are repaired, for the purpose of repair. For the purposes of this section, a place of business shall be deemed to be a fixed location."

A lawyer runs a stop sign and gets pulled over by a sheriff. He thinks he's smarter being a big shot lawyer from New York and has a better education than a sheriff from West Virginia. The sheriff asks for license and registration. The lawyer asks, "What for?" The sheriff responds, "You didn't come to a complete stop at the stop sign." The lawyer says, "I slowed down and no one was coming." "You still didn't come to a complete stop. License and registration please," asks the sheriff impatiently. The lawyer says, "If you can show me the practical difference between slow down and stop, I'll give you my license and registration and you can give me the ticket. If not, you let me go and don't give me the ticket." The sheriff says, "That sounds fair enough, please exit your vehicle." The lawyer steps out and the sheriff takes out his nightstick and starts beating the lawyer with it. The sheriff says, "Do you want me to stop or just slow down?"

How do you get the tools to stay in chest positioned like that. LMFAO

outstanding!!!!!

I think we should all mail 15 round magazines on Dec. 10th to all the state politicians houses that voted for the bill. Then on Dec. 11, when the packages arrive at their houses, we photograph them receiving the mags. Instant felons! Then post their pictures on all the state newspapers. Turn around is fair game! If turban head refuses to prosecute them, there's our "Get out of Jail free" card!

Mabey we should form a group to fund a lawsuit suing the state for replacement costs of mags they made illegal. Some people are looking at hundreds of dollars in replacement cost of a thing that was legally purchased .

here's something that no one's mentioned yet.......in your yard, you have a duty to retreat.....provided you can do so safely. in your dwelling, you have no such duty to retreat.

agreed, but couldn't pass up the chance to take the pot shot at .gov wich is one of the reasons why i presonally dont get OC, especially in areas like here and our surroundings.

If you're going to do that with open carry, just go all out. Go big or go home!

It's that time of the year again, time for some IMPORTANT updates: First, It's time to change the filters in your HVAC system after the Summer and get it ready for Winter. Don't forget to vacuum the registers and check your humidifier to make sure it's adding moisture for the heating season. Second, and the MOST important. Time to replace the batteries in all Smoke Detectors and CO Detectors. You do this every year, right? Oh wait, I see some of you have your smoke detectors hanging like this, because it was chirping: Really.... REALLY!!! I can't believe it. So, get your step ladder out, and change those batteries!! Wait, what, you don't have enough batteries? You're kidding, right? You have 1000's of rounds of ammo stored but not enough batteries for all your smoke detectors?? I'm shocked!! OK, so RIGHT NOW, if you're using Tap-A-Talk or accessing the forum from your phone, send yourself a text or an email as a reminder to change the batteries. Even better, send your wife or significant other the text or email, so they will bug you to do it! I certainly hope I don't see anything like this one below, where you took the detector down because it was beeping.... Come on.... really???? OK, go get in the car, RIGHT NOW, and drive to Home Depot and buy a new detector.... I'm sure none of you want your house to look like this one, with YOU in it, because your detectors weren't working right? OK, so now everyone has sent the text or email, wrote a big sticky, or leaving right now for Home Depot...... RIGHT?? Good.... my job is done here... Remember, the Life you Save will be Your Own!!

Ah, except the part of shooting in your backyard... Does your town have discharge laws? In most of Central Jersey there were discharge laws on the books. Now, once again the broader issue of carrying on property is the difference in being right vs being effective... You are absolutely 100% within your rights to open carry on your property, heck, walk around with an AR and an AK on your back... the question is, how effective is it? Have a noisy neighbor? Watch how quickly they call the cops and swat shows up to reports of "gun walking around with assault rifles." Yes, they will sort it out later. Just remember NYC transit laws... yes, FOPA protects you, but NYC doesn't care and they arrest first, then sort out later. Hence why, carrying on own property... conceal carry it, especially if you have small property or in an urban area. If you live in the boonies or are on a few acres, then it all goes out the window and do as you want.

Must be nice to be considered a higher class of citizen. As a normal civilian opening carry in your yard while legal will most likely turn into a major affair. Like others stated conceled from neighbors might be the best idea. Most towns have ordinances where if your causing public annoyance or cause major police response is a chargeable offense regardless if that panic is justified or not. Plus with the new “red flag” laws in place all the neighbor had to say is your acting irrationally etc. now all your guns get seized and you get to spend some money get all your property returned.

Keep in mind that in most towns, the town technically owns a right of way on the curb-line. Usually about 10 feet. Someone could argue that's 'public' property if you're mowing on it. Personally I would open carry only inside my house. And only concealed outdoors on my property. I can't see a reason to curry unnecessary attention.

Thanks 45Doll! Just what I was looking for. 1563621.... As to why carry at home? .......If NJ will not let allow me, a law abiding citizen who has passed at least 40 background checks, to legally carry outside of my home, I will choose to exercise the limited rights I have in the hope that minds will be changed. If LEO rolls up on me for mowing whist carrying, I need to know the statute.

'cause most police can't/don't know all the laws/statutes. most i fear are also anti-gun(for us common folk). the police we have here are the exceptions to the rule. me personally.....i do carry about my home, and out in the yard when working. but i keep it concealed. i really don't want the "extra attention" that would be garnered by the sig hanging in plain sight.

It's not just a guy with the hat, that's the chairman of the board. Nice tool box too.

I concur....PLEASE change your smoke detector batteries every 6 months, and if you don’t have a fire extinguisher on EVERY floor of your house, plus the kitchen, GET ONE! Earlier this year I put out a fire at my neighbors house..they didn’t have WORKING smoke detectors, or fire extinguishers. They DO now. So should you.

...which brings us full circle to my post from this morning. Sent from my XT1635-01 using Tapatalk

lol

Searched town ordinances - the only time the term ‘Bow’ is mentioned is to restrict them within “parks and recreation areas”. I’ll double check with the PD, but I think I’m good to go there.

Bro... leave the trying to hard for @Ray Ray

It’s sad funny

Its so not funny , Its funny.

Not at all! But @Ray Raystill sucks! Period

Crap, how did I miss that? Luckily, I have a Sig as well. I'll stay tuned for further details.

Actually that’s not funny

FUBU pants.

Valid point. But goes deeply against “ grey man” theory. It’s also very locale or paradigm dependant. Hell when I lived in Salem co the Nieghbor walked around shooting moles in the backyard. My current residence has a no discharge ordinance. Its not bravado, it’s respect for others? I dunno..

I finally assembled the safe from Zanotti Armor, and I must say this is some product. The clearances where the panels meet are the thickness of a postcard, or less. I found that amazing since they were shipped from Iowa and the pallet was dropped at some point along the way. I moved and assembled all the safe components myself on a hand truck or dolly, except for the door which weighed 175 lbs. A friend helped me lift that into place last weekend. If anyone's interested in one feel free to contact me about it. For my money it was well worth it.

Sure. Just write a bigger check. A T15 or T30 rated safe will be a lot more money, unless you find a good deal on a used one. And all the RSCs (residential security containers), including the one I have, are more vulnerable than the Zanotti. Any safe can be breached, given enough time and the right tools. My safe is only to prevent smash and grab. It's my alarm system that's the real deterrent by severely limiting the time available.

Yes. But I might be the one learning the unpleasant lesson. I carry a firearm to protect my life; not to precipitate a 'discussion' over Constitutional rights vs. progressive gun laws. I have many other avenues for the latter that carry no risk.

My opinion is that you need more than just "opening packages". If you spewed off a list of specific tasks you do regularly (cut rope, clean electrical contacts, scrape paint, dig out splinters, pick your teeth, open your lunch bags, clean your nails, cut your apples, open mail, etc.) with the knife, that might get them to back down and make it sound believable.

Because all the real men ran away?

Your land. Carry what you want. Open or concealed. If you question it, you've become pussified.

Good advice for the OP.

That's not a tool chest. THIS is a tool chest https://www.njgunforums.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2018_11/5be89e808bc55_BigGuns2.jpg.5d4c2775e0d597957c3c8fd07f82a74f.jpg

Our new Governor is an asshole. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The next step in the Progressive Plan of the Glorious Peoples Republik of Nazi Jersey will be to limit the amount of ammo one can purchase over a period of a time. You'll be required to account for (and turn in to an appropriate authority) your spent brass so they know you're not hoarding ammo for illicit purposes. The end game is to totally disarm the non-LEO/Military populace of this state. It will be a shining example for the rest of the nation.

From your link: You forgot "unlawfully". There is nothing unlawful about using a knife, gun, or ballpoint pen in self-defense. Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk