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If he wants to shame someone he should start with his Dentist. Since most departments buy separately.. I doubt there is a running total thats easy to obtain.

Electric cars = pork roll gasoline cars = Taylor Ham

Anyone can play your stupid game... GM recalls 1 million pickup trucks, SUVs that could suffer steering malfunction Nathan Bomey, USA TODAYPublished 10:57 a.m. ET Sept. 13, 2018 | Updated 3:34 p.m. ET Sept. 13, 2018 General Motors is recalling more than 1 million full-size pickups and large SUVs that could suffer a steering malfunction leading to crashes. GM said it had identified 30 crashes, two injuries and no deaths connected to the defect. The recall covers certain 2015 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 and GMC 1500 pickups, as well as 2015 Chevy Tahoe, Chevy Suburban, GMC Yukon and Cadillac Escalade SUVs. While the recall covers 1.02 million vehicles, GM estimated that the defect affects only about 2 percent of the units. The Silverado, GM's most popular model, makes up about 44 percent of the recalled vehicles. "These vehicles may experience a temporary loss of" electric power steering, "followed by a sudden return," especially "during low-speed turning maneuvers," GM told the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in a regulatory document. "The loss and sudden return of EPS assist typically happens within a 1 second period and is caused by an electrical/software issue," GM said. The defect could cause drivers to "have difficulty steering the vehicle, especially at low speeds, increasing the risk of a crash," according to GM. The automaker said it launched a safety investigation on the matter on June 28. After analyzing customer complaints, conducting tests and completing engineering analyses, the automaker decided Aug. 30 to initiate a recall. Customers will be notified if they are affected and will receive repairs for free. Dealers will conduct a software fix to rectify the defect. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/09/13/gm-chevrolet-gmc-truck-recall/1289064002/

all in all, there is nothing wrong with electric, if you're willing to plug your car in, and if you can afford it. these will never completley replace the internal combustion engine. unless we get some dimotard with enough ooomph to push that. internal combustion engine powered cars though will more than likely become rich boys toys in the not too distant future. electrics when they become popular enough will create issues with the grid. more than likely electric providers will pick up on rush hour type pricing, due to the fact that many people will be coming home in the same ballpark timeframe, and plugging their shit in. in places like commifornia where they already have rolling brown(black)outs, this will become fairly interesting too, as i believe what? 40-50% of their power is actually imported? me personally? i don't care whatcha drive. you can drive a suzuki shitbox for all i care. just don't be acting snobby when someone rolls up next to ya in a 800hp stang, or a suv with front and back ends in different zip codes.

"Dick’s Sporting Goods Inc said on Tuesday it would stop selling hunting rifles and ammunition at 125 stores and forecast 2019 profit below analysts’ expectations, sending its shares down 10 percent." https://www.reuters.com/article/us-dicks-sporting-results-idUSKBN1QT22G?fbclid=IwAR2kEnirpR0A7PugQBBcT2ZOyWuvokWW-_akCOW1Xos80-Slev40hwor5C0 So first you stop selling any guns other than hunting rifles. Then when sales go in the tank because, well, gun owners all hate you and foot traffic in the store drops. You decide to drop hunting rifles and ammo too. I guess? I'd like to know what Reebok did to get the boot though.

https://www.nj.com/politics/2019/03/murphy-moves-to-name-and-shame-gunmakers-whose-weapons-end-up-on-the-street.html Although, unprofessional of me to say so, Murphy is an ass-hole and he is wrong on so many levels. The manufacturers have no control over who buys civilian manufactured firearms---it is up to the FFL's to run the background check after the initial purchaser or subsequent purchaser indicates that he or she is the intended recipient of the firearm. The manufacturers cannot know, what is in the mind of a qualified purchaser or control what they do with the firearm. Unless it is obvious to an FFL, the firearm is being purchased for another individual, there is no way to stop this except to enforce existing state and federal law in the rare instance a straw purchase situation can actually be proven. It is shit like this, that just steals headlines and sounds good to his uninformed base. We can only hope he is not re-elected.

From the article in the OP: "...But Murphy said the money, which would go to the state’s general fund without being dedicated to any specific purpose, could "go toward combating trafficking” and “bulking up the ranks of state troopers” in the State Police." or to provide tuition payments for illegal aliens or to pay for abortions for those who can neither keep their legs closed nor afford to kill their children, both born and unborn.

We'll just look at their names.... Maybe change it to Stupid Dicks.

I'm pretty sure the Gun manufactures are losing sleep over this.. They make a Legal product. We as FFL's run the appropriate and mandated background check. Guess we should be shaming GM and Ford when their assault vehicles are used by a drunk driver and innocent people are killed. Shit maybe the NJ AG should charge homedepot with aiding terrorists because someone rented a HD truck and ran over people in NYC.

Should be interesting to watch fishing and camping equipment sales this Spring, to see if that trend continues. ----------------- ...." However, hunters weren’t so keen on the retailer during the quarter, with guns, ammunition, firearm accessories and hunting apparel declining. According to Stack, the hunting and electronics categories hurt same-store sales by 3%. The company also removed the entire hunting category from 10 stores late in the third quarter where it was underperforming, according to Stack, “and replaced it with a more compelling assortment.” Dick’s Sporting Goods is planning to pull the category from 125 additional stores. Neil Saunders, managing director at GlobalData Retail, has two concerns about the shift in Dick’s Sporting Goods’ business. “Our data show that a lot of hunters and gun enthusiasts have migrated to retailers like Bass Pro and to smaller specialists,” he wrote in a note. “At the same time, Dick’s Sporting Goods has not benefited from an upswing in trade among those who agree with its gun policy.” https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dicks-sporting-goods-results-hurt-by-under-armour-and-the-hunting-category-2019-03-12?mod=mw_theo_homepage That's what happens when a mass retailer wants to play politics.

Actually, the argument I'm making would be the exact opposite. The biggest reason to dislike a smartgun is that it adds complexity, meaning you now have more points of failure. An electric motor has 3 moving parts counting the bearings. And internal combustion engine has hundreds. Just because something is a newer technology doesn't mean it is more complex, and that is what some here are missing.

Here comes the long, slow slide into insolvency....

Last one out of Dick's turn off the lights. I used to shop there decades ago out of state - it was a pretty nice, gun-friendly store.

In 1973 I decided, after much study and rumination, that my first S&W had to be a .44 Special. While at the time everyone was coveting the model 29, .44 Magnum (remember this was post-“Dirty Harry”), I wanted a .44 Special. I told my shooting buddy that I wanted a S&W model 24 and he laughed at me. He said that it had been discontinued in 1967, and even if I could find one, I probably would not be able to afford it. That same friend, from whom I learned much of my S&W knowledge, later came to me and told me that J&G Rifle Ranch (an entity that still exists today) was selling original model 24 six and a half inch barrels. I bought one and salted it away. I was a great fan of the late Skeeter Skelton at that time. He was a gun writer for Shooting Times magazine and a great proponent of the .44 Special. He constantly lobbied S&W to bring back the model 24. While he was eventually successful (S&W reintroduced the model 24 in 1983 and later, in 1985, the stainless version model 624) I couldn’t wait. I guess I wasn’t alone in wanting one because a mini-industry, converting various S&W models to .44 Special, sprang up. I already had a leg up, in that I possessed an original barrel, I just needed a gun to convert. I found a gently used four inch model 28 at a LGS and purchased it for $125. Now I just needed a gunsmith to do the conversion. Skeeter recommended Miniature Machine Company of Deming, NM. Skeeter carried a lot of weight in the gun community, because when I contacted them about doing the conversion, I was put on a wait list – how long? Approximately a year. Sigh. Very shortly thereafter, I read an article in another gun magazine about a gunsmith in CA that was doing this conversion. I contacted him right away, liked what he said and gave him the job. My 28 and the 24 barrel got shipped off to George Matthews in Downey, CA. He bored and recessed the cylinder as well as making sure that it was square to the forcing cone. Installed the barrel and changed the Patridge front sight to a Baughman ramp with a gold insert. The beauty of using the original model 24 barrel was, not only did it have the correct roll marks, but it was satin finished, just like the model 28. I didn’t even need to have the gun refinished. My buddy and I went a little further when I got it back. We installed a smooth combat trigger – common today, but not so much in the early 70’s. We also installed a SAO model 14 rebound spring – again, entities like Wolff, Wilson or Miculek weren’t offering spring kits so this was the hot set-up to help reduce trigger pull. Sometime in the mid-80’s, as my eyes deteriorated, I installed a red dot optic using a B-Square, “no-drill” mount. It was a Tasco ProPoint and was huge. This was when Tasco optics were sourced from Japan and of good quality. It still resides atop that gun today. My converted model 28 is the most accurate of all the Smiths I own. Aside from the .44 Special being an inherently accurate cartridge, the work that George Matthews did, all contribute to its accuracy. Many turkeys and hams were won with that gun. Here is that gun… This is all back story to establish how much I love the .44 Special. Over the intervening years, since my conversion came into being, I have managed to accumulate a few more .44 Special revolvers. Not all of them S&W’s, but most are. I tell you all this to introduce you to what will be the pinnacle of my small .44 Special collection. I related the story of my encounter with all of the Heritage Guild stores in another thread – while that ended in disappointment, it primed my pump for a new addition to the safe. Saturday night I spent several hours combing 52 pages of S&W revolvers on a classified ad website for guns. Only one spoke to me. In 2001 S&W introduced a series of revolvers called the Heritage Series. This offering was in collaboration with the S&W Performance Center and Lew Horton Distributors. These were not exact copies of older guns (30’s and 40’s) but rather paid homage to them. They were a very divisive offering. It seemed the gun community either hated them or loved them – I fell into the second camp. This series of guns were available in several finishes, depending on the model. There was a blued finish as well as a nickel finish, but the most desired finish was a color case hardened frame done by the master, Doug Turnbull, himself. These frames were paired with a blue cylinder and barrel. It was this variation of a model 24-5, that I came across in those listings. A couple of negotiating e-mails later, and the gun, number 25 of 327, was mine. I just sent off the funds this morning. Here is what I am getting… Now the hard part, the waiting. I have two guns at my dealer right now. I’m waiting for my OGAM exemption to come from the NJSP. Since the exemption purchase is outside of the OGAM framework, I’ll be able to purchase the 24-5 separately regardless of the time interval. I hope to bring all three home at once. Adios, Pizza Bob

Bob, are you retired? If you are, I think there’s a position waiting for you as curator of the revolver wing at the NRA museum.

FAKE NEWS quit trying to make NJ look good.

Wow! Agreed IC engines will never go completely away but like it or not electric looks like it is the future and Tesla has raised the bar pretty high. Just like the iphone, more companies will build on their success, create competition and ultimately offer a better, more refined car.. I am no sierra club member..In fact I hate those fucks.. I still ride a 2-stroke motorcycle. I like to mix gas and oil. I love the smell of 2-strokes in the morning That said, people can't bury their head in the sand and pretend like it's not going to happen... It just makes them sound like grumpy old men tying to hold onto the past.

Haven’t read anyone mention the potential for the fee increases to drive some folks to illegal gun purchases? Under the current system they can track background checks and firearms ownership (FIDs and P2Ps provide that). It seems to me that increasing the price of legal transactions, will lead to an increase in illegal transactions - no background checks, no notification to police (works fine for criminals). Already, folks chance crossing state lines for ciggarettes, fireworks, avoid sales tax, etc., what’s to say you want to buy a firearm from a relative or a friend at a range....the transfer is going to cost more because the FFL has to charge more to pay his fees, the P2P is now 2500% higher than previous....economically there’s good motivation there to take a chance of not getting caught.... Seems to me, this Governor is even dumber than given credit for....

Y'all could close the thread on this note. You won't, but you could.

Pizza Bob you always add so much to this forum! Great knowledge, beautiful pics of very unique guns. We appreciate it all. I want to also add and I'm sure I'm not the only one but when ever I read your threads you make me want to go get more permits just to get a fine wheel gun!

JimB1, there is only ONE reason for what Murphy is doing. Eradicate gun ownership in NJ, any which way he can, hook or crook.

I'm curious about what retired officers have been arrested and had this tested in court? HR218 indicates "notwithstanding any State or Local Laws". I've seen a couple of cases where NY and CA both lost their cases. I also read the infamous 'letter" from the NJSP where it stated you only need the state ID if you plan on working, but only need HR218 if you plan on carrying personally. The letter was retracted. I suspect NJ would NOT pursue a charge against a retired officer who has not complied with their permitting process. If they loose it would look bad for the State and set a rock solid precedent. Shown Here: Public Law No: 108-277 (07/22/2004) (This measure has not been amended since it was passed by the House on June 23, 2004. The summary of that version is repeated here.) Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act of 2004 - Amends the Federal criminal code to authorize a qualified law enforcement officer carrying photographic governmental agency identification to carry a concealed firearm, notwithstanding any State or local law. Declares that this provision shall not be construed to supersede or limit the laws of any State that: (1) permit private persons or entities to prohibit or restrict the possession of concealed firearms on their property; or (2) prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on any State or local government property, installation, building, base, or park. Defines "qualified law enforcement officer" as: (1) a current governmental agency law enforcement officer who is authorized to carry a firearm, who is not the subject of disciplinary action, who meets agency standards which require the employee to regularly qualify in the use of a firearm, and who is not under the influence of alcohol or another intoxicating or hallucinatory drug or substance; and (2) a retired law enforcement officer who retired in good standing from public agency service, who was regularly employed as a law enforcement officer for at least 15 years, who has a nonforfeitable right to agency retirement benefits, who has met the State's standards for training and qualification for active law enforcement officers to carry firearms during the most recent 12-month period, and who is not under the influence of alcohol or another intoxicating or hallucinatory drug or substance.

I contacted his office telling them no one in my immediate or extended family will be voting for him in 2020 and that before he dismisses the dozen or so votes he is losing, he needs to realize that I am just a sampling of what his constituents think about his Op Ed and other anti 2A statements he has made over the years. He personally probably could not care less about my message. But if he loses, I plan to follow up with an “ I told you so” message.

She’s a little dark, but she has the right idea about how to handle Zeke...

Peel, I have suspected this about you for a while, but now I am almost certain. You are a closet dominatrix, aren't ya. I would not be surprised to find an iron maiden in your dungeon... er, I mean, basement.

Actually, for the money, the Freedom is very tough to beat. Plenty have done beater tests on them and they pass quite well. Take a look at the reviews, they are great value!

That reminds me of how FPS Russia wanted to get shot while wearing a bullet proof vest, or him shooting his fans with rubber bullets.

I like the cut of your jib, Peel!

Oh, pls! Who wants him to be a willing participant? He doesn't need to "agree". In fact, the more he resists, the more it will drive ratings. Picture this: a howling, terrified Zeke, dragged into the ring in chains, and THEN tased by Mrs. Zeke... as the crowd roars! Think of the DRAMA, people!

LEO do not need the CCW, they are covered under HR218, unless they plan on taking an armed SORA job, then they need the permit.

I wonder if folks on the automotive boards spend this much time arguing about firearm technology?

I just watched the the latest offering...nicely done! Oh, and I subscribed. Looking forward to more content.

Welcome, if your into shotguning Quinton sportsman club can't be beat. They have it all, trap, 5 stand, skeet, just a normal field for hand throwers and there's 2 manual machines, also my personal favorite the 16 stand sporting clays. You can rent a golf cart, bring your own or just walk, it's a really nice walk through the woods. It's all open to the public. Friday nights theres dinner and all the SG venues. Sundays the kitchen is open for breakfast and lunch.

if you're talking about the KSG-25, yes it's legal and has always been legal. Except when you're hunting in NJ, then yo uheed double Duck plugs........Lol

Pretty much any law you hear about in a gun store likely does not actually exist anywhere but the head of the guy telling you about it.

1.5" brakes arent actually 1.5" Almost all of them are marketed as such to indicate they take a standard 14.5" and make it 16" compliant... some actually make it longer than 16"

This man is on a mission, God bless him.

Fudds be damned!

It’s what happens in every thread here when someone doesn’t agree with him. Don’t waste your time. It’s useless.

What I don’t understand is why no judge would rule this law, in part already effective in NJ, to be violating our constitutional right to keep and bear arms? So that right is good enough for Americans, except those in NJ and NY.......? The left judge shops... why doesn’t the right use the same tactic? I feel like I’m missing something. Seriously. The anti 2A gang games the judicial system with zero consequences. It there a reason pro 2A groups don’t do it? Or at least not successfully.

C'mon out to the next Shotgun Shoot.

Grumpy old men have trouble opening things. Eyes, Ears, Minds..

BWC ... GFY

On the NJSP site for FAQs ( http://www.njsp.org/firearms/firearms-faqs.shtml ) question #6 reads: How do you transport firearms? Firearms shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported. Ammunition must be transported in a separate container and locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm must be in a locked container other than the vehicle's glove compartment or console. So, as usual, they're talking out of all three sides of their mouth. I'll lock'em up in a job box.

Well apparently the hold 50% of the new bike market. But they’ve made some unpatriotic boneheaded moves recently.

So, does that make the Kel-Tec shotgun a no go?