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it pains me, to see the amount of ignorance and patting themselves on the back while giving up our rights that these kids support. No one standing up and calling out the stupidity of infringing on our rights in the name of safety. It rips at the fabric of our core to see people so willing to give up liberty for percieved security. Yes it is cliche, but it holds true all the same. When I think of the amount of self sacrifice to preserve our constitution and to see people who never made such sacrifices be the first ones to say "I dont need these rights, go ahead, take it", it is beyond pathetic.

A few points One, get a hotel for the night before the hunt. You will thank me later. Two, your caliber should begin with a 3 or 4. I.E, 30-30, 7.62x39, 7.62x51, 7.62x54R, 30-06, 44 magnum, 45-70, 450 Bushmaster. Do not use a 223. You'll thank me later. Three, if you have a hitch get a luggage trailer. The smell of death in your car will never go away. You'll thank me later. Four, bring eye protection/rags/rubber gloves and a piece of hazard tape to mark your bacon. You'll thank me later.

So I also found another range as per forum member in Catskills, so time wise, identical... reaching out to them as well to see what we can do. This is certainly still a big priority for an event.

Brisket, bitches...for your meat eating pleasure.

Despite what many of you may think, I actually own and shoot long guns on occasion. I used today to catch up on some rifle tasks that I had been putting off for a while. The first, and easiest, was simply installing a second charge handle (left side) on my Ruger PCC. A little blue Loc-Tite and an Allen wrench and we're all set. The second task was no more difficult, but more involved. Quite a while back, I came across and interesting CZ rifle with their mini-Mauser action. It was chambered in .223 and the twist rate was correct for the heavier bullets normally used in an AR. This was a 527 variation called the 527 Royale. Interesting looking and relatively rare. I don't think they ever cataloged it in the US and sources vary as to how many were imported. It came with the CZ rings that mate with their dovetailed receiver. One screw in one of the rings was stripped. I bought a set Burris rings, but had yet to remove the scope and remount it. So that got done this morning too. The last project wasn't difficult but it was frustrating. I have a Howa 1500 Axiom. This gun shoots terrific, but had a horrendous trigger (this was from before Howa's HACK trigger). I shot sub-MOA groups with the old trigger, so I figured I could probably do better with a better trigger. I ordered a Timney 1.5# trigger. Really simple one-screw installation, after you get the action out of the stock. That required purchasing a long .25" ball-end Allen wrench. Then came the frustrating part (my bad). The action screws appeared to be socket head Allen screws, but I couldn't find an Allen wrench to fit. I ended up going to Harbor Freight and buying a huge set of all kinds of bits (China - cheap). Still couldn't find one - then I looked a little closer at the screws....waaaaiiit a minute - those aren't Allen head, those are Torx. Sure enough a T30 bit had them out in a jiffy. While the action was out of the stock I also converted it from an internal mag with a floor plate, to a detachable box magazine. The kit came with one magazine - I got a ten-rounder - and then I ordered a second five-round magazine. Pretty slick. What I found was that the action screws weren't torqued anywhere near spec - so that got taken care of upon reassembly. That takes care of the long gun tasks. Later this week I have to sight-in my new Ruger GP100 Match Champion so that I can christen it at Saturday's IDPA match at Lower Providence. Adios, Pizza Bob

That's not fair - you ARE British. My first experience with Whitworth was when my father bought a set of Whitworth wrenches (OK, spanners if you will) for his Triumph TR3. They came in handy when my buddy and i bought Austin Healeys - him a '62 3000 Mk II and me a '58 100-6. Anybody that has owned a British car with Lucas, Prince of Darkness, electrics will understand the masochistic comment. My ex- BIL had an MGA that quit on him in the middle of the Holland Tunnel. Everybody needs to experience a British sports car at least once their lives - it builds character. Adios, Pizza Bob

3.5" MOA in a $1400.00 - $1900.00 (depending upon the model) is not acceptable, at least not in my book. There are numerous reports on the net of Std ammo keyholing at 25-50 yds., so at 100 yards.....????? Then there is the Nerf Football ammo, though it may work - How much is it a round? Is the OEM Ammo even avail.? Except in NJ, you can get the same results by putting a barge on an AR pistol, get much better performance and spend half the amount of money! In NJ, you need to weigh the value in a weapon that isn't very accurate and is expensive vs a good shotgun. Just seems like a lot of money to pretend you have an SBR - jmo

@DirtyDigz https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2019/04/daniel-zimmerman/cmmgs-9-arc-magazine-convert-an-ar15-to-shoot-9mm/ 9 made easy

This firearm was designed for close quarters. When we have tested it with standard ammunition, we have seen consistent 3.5" groupings at 100 yards. As far as accuracy with a 7.5" barrel that is what you can expect. Once the ammunition specific for the Reformation™ comes out, those grouping will be even smaller.

No I'm not. I'm being a dick. Get it right.

I don't know what you're talking about. I got my NICS approved in like 5 minutes on Thursday evening.

We stay at a B&B in Mount Joy, PA (about 20 min. from boat ramp). Ours is booked-up I think. I'll do some research for you in the AM & get back to ya. Lots of places around

Sounds like a pain in the ass to trim all that. Trimming around wood fence posts tends to chew up the posts too. Wherever I can get away with it, I spray herbicide around the base of the post. Less trimming and less wear and tear on the posts. Nobody will notice a little dead grass around 2 acres of fence posts. We have a couple of customers with very large fenced properties that we talked into putting a 3" strip of gravel along the fence line. It cuts down on maintenance, but more importantly, it saves the fence from a weekly beating I also kill a two to three inch strip along stockade fencing for the same reason. Fences are expensive, especially the nice vinyl fences.

Who? YOU ARE! Staying Friday night & having dinner w/ some of our hunters! Always fresh for the hunt is SAFER than half asleep from driving in the dark for 3 hours! I've seen it all as far as weapons go. My last harvest I used a .30-30 because I lost a cleaning patch down the bore of my muzzleloader & didn't wish to delay the hunt fishing it out. Every harvest prior to that I use black powder (the REAL McCoy). Most with my Uberti Colt Walker & .456 conical 225 grain bullets. I enjoy the challenge. Recently I've used a .50 cal sidelock (traditional) 1/2 stock percussion Lyman Trade Rifle w/ a 370 grain conical bullet. I've seen crossbows do well. The trick is to be SAFE & do as the guides tell you. And don't be afflicted with "Buck Fever" & pump bolts or rounds into the ground instead of your hog! Whatever ya do, please don't show-up with a $14K .338 lapua magnum w/ a heat imaging scope. Stu knows all about THAT story Pic #1 is the Marlin .30-30 last January Pic #2 is the .50 cal Lyman Trade Rifle w/ 370 gr conical down the throat Pic #3 is the Uberti Colt Walker Cap & Ball w/ a 52 gr rifle charge of 3Fg Goex real black powder under a Lee 225 gr .456 conical Ice for the cavity is bought across the street at the Bainbridge Inn. GPS address is 100 Race Street, Bainbridge, PA. Jack will be emailing a reminder of what to bring, which was expertly edited by Sandy M., who's been on a few of these herself! KNOW your equipment and be prepared for heavy brush. This is not bench-rest shooting. Bring a sling for main weapon & a sidearm w/ a holster that covers the trigger guard. If it's warm, I'll have orange shirts for sale Be at the boat ramp early so you can stow your Goody Bag in your truck. See you this Saturday Nick! (Or Friday night if you dine w/ me & the ladies) Rosey

I hate this state. When I'm at my home in Florida I can carry everyday almost anywhere. When I'm back here in NJ I can't have a gun when I leave my store late at night and drive home. The gun laws in this state are nuts. They really do favor the criminals. When you visit a gun store in a free state or a gun show you really realize how crazy NJ is.

That's a great point! It's cheap enough and a gun you can always find a use for.... Especially if pistol permits go up to $50 a pop.

I'm not going this time, but I've been before. For range, it's likely to be 20 yards or less. For the gun, 30-30 is popular but .223/5.56 has been used plenty of times too as well as 20g slug. You can even use a pistol if you want but personally I have reservations about the humane kill aspect - 9mm is not enough for a sure kill, .44 magnum would be fine if you're sure of your shot placement. Bows have been used successfully in previous hunts too. If you don't have a pickup truck, don't forget tarps or a body bag for the trip to the butcher. There will be blood.

I got my denial last year. It's too expensive to do again so soon. You have to do anothe Morphotrak background check ($$) and then qualify with the guns you want to carry at 50-60 rounds each (more $$). The staff at GFH blinked hard when I told them how many quals I wanted to run.

Ah yes! "Apply to be denied"! I was part of that and it was group of us who got together for the purpose of getting a large number of people to apply for CCW so we could prove to the courts that NJ denies most ALL permits! It was determined that the number of people who were willing to be denied was insufficient to have a positive outcome for us. The fact is, NJ now freely admits it does not grant permits! Back then, they denied that fact. NJ will NOT change a thing unless forced by the SCOTUS, even then, they will resist, kicking and screaming all the way. I predict that in the end, WE WILL WIN! Start looking for your CCW gun and a good holster now!

Just did some google-fu and found this video: He observes that the gun can do about 2 MOA at 100 yards with the "special" ammo. Regular ammo starts to keyhole at around 50 yards.

Why not a bunch of denials? Here's why: Too many PUSSIES were afraid of a denial costing them the ability to apply for more P2P's! OMG, what do I do if they ask me about a denial? FACT: No matter how many times Almeida was denied, he explained it all away and there was NO delay in processing P2P's. Ever. The Stockholm Syndrome is strong here...

As part of my self-interest and desire to learn more via continuing education regarding the arcane and confusing, (if not un-Constitutional), NJ gun laws, I have attended several conferences and presentations where Evan Nappen gave his interpretation of those constantly changing gun laws. I have also enrolled and subscribed to the US Law Shield program, for added insurance and peace-of-mind, for the potential pitfalls of gun ownership. I am not an attorney and realize that most of what Nappen advocates usually errors on the conservative side of caution, which I understand and accept. He is not always correct, (who is...?), but I respect his opinion and cautious approach to. NJ's gun laws. While it is a PITA, why take unnecessary chances when traveling with firearms, whether in NJ or other states. Until the SCOTUS makes more definitive rulings, I want to be prudent with my choices in how I plan to consciously comply with the current laws of NJ, as well as the other states I travel to. FYI, when I have gone on multiple state road trips with any of my firearms, I am knowledgeable of and have consciously abided by the current FOPA laws governing interstate transportation of firearms. Having obtained non-resident CCW permits for handguns from several states that allow me to CCW in approx. 32 states, I have on occasion, chosen to do so, where I was able to legally do so. I subscribed to a “belt and suspenders” approach when transporting my selected handgun and ammunition, through those states. For those trips, I made what I thought was a combined reasonable and practical decision to fully load the multiple magazines with hollow point bullets, as my self-defense ammo. If I was in a state where I was not legally allowed to wear my holstered handgun while driving or was not allowed to CCW at all, I would do the following. I would store the handgun and loaded magazines in separate 5.11 ballistic nylon zippered pouches that were each secured with small, TSA-approved combination locks. I then placed both separate locked pouches, along with my holster, inside a locked hard sided, (aluminum) attaché case, that in turn had two combination locks. I would then locate and store that locked hard sided case in the far back of my SUV. Finally, I would pull closed, the horizontal vinyl cover/shade, so that nothing stored in that cargo area would be visible to anyone inside or outside the vehicle, nor accessible to anyone within the vehicle while actively driving. Some folks would consider all of this as taking things overboard or being overly cautious. Well it is a PITA, but doing this and taking all of these precautions, gave me and gives me, peace-of-mind as I navigate through the mine field of different and conflicting legal jurisdictions of different states. AVB-AMG

There is a lot in this. First, New Jersey as a rule does not function on common sense. There may be some LEOs and Attorney's out there that function that way, but it isn't the default setting. So, lets get that out of the way. Next, LEOs respond in part to laws on the books and case law. If you were an otherwise law-abiding citizen should you be arrested for having a loaded mag, or say a pocket knife, or maybe a loaded mag with hollow point ammunition in it, a sling shot out in the woods, or say a single round of hollow point ammunition on face value only? NO. There should be common sense. If you are an otherwise law-abiding citizen that gets pulled over for having your license plate covered partially, should be you prosecuted for having in your possession a 12 round magazine? NO. There should be common sense. However, in this State there is an aspect at least in part of an aggressive agenda and continued brainwashing. There are those that react and let those above them sort it out, etc. There is mandatory jail time and fines, etc. Nappen is a capitalist and a lawyer. I believe he is knowledgeable about the law. i believe that there were times when he has seen that ridiculous shit was thrown out and I believe that there were occasions when common sense didn't prevail and the mala prohibitas transgression and its sentence were unjust. Prosecutors and Judges are just attorneys. Do I need to say more? They could and have had agendas contrary to decency and common sense. Someone that is in a position to have a loaded magazine should have some common sense and discretion, especially in this place that doesn't recognize rights. But, if all of the bad luck and pieces come together one could find himself in a bad and expensive situation. Only criminals and undocumented voters are allowed loaded magazines in this state without being questioned. Take for example driving around with a cased and unloaded long-arm in this state with an FID in your possession. Unless you go where it is expressly prohibited, such as a school parking lot, etc. (without permission from the School board), then you are for all purposes legal to do so. However, try getting away with that at 11:30 at night when you are stopped for a brake light out and a LEO decides to peer into the back of your SUV with a flashlight and notices that oddly shaped case. Is he going to check it? Is he going to let you go after questioning you for 20 minutes and allowing you to you brandish your FID card? Might he take the card? Might he search every inch of your car and put himself and you in danger as you reside on the side of the road with loaded people driving around? Same analysis with the magazine. It certainly by itself is NOT a firearm. By that logic any part of a firearm could be considered a firearm. Lets play along, though. Why are you carrying a loaded magazine? Theoretically you have a reasonable reason and purpose. Say you are transporting your firearm from your home to place of business. You would be putting unnecessary wear and tear on mags loading and unloading and in particular you would be possibly damaging the ammunition in those mags with the loading and unloading process. It is time consuming and that ammo isn't rattling all around but safely contained in a magazine. And then there is the fact that just about ANY NJ law pertaining to firearams is vague enough that there is a "gottcha" built into it any time an overzealous Statist wants to exercise his power. And if for some reason his spider sense starts tingling you will wish you had stayed home that night. It all comes down to the fact that peaceful and law-abiding citizens should NOT BE examined and put through any of this by a common sense legal system, but yet there is always a risk. Unless you have a carry permit in this state all of the people living here are taking some risk if they have guns and bullets, and more visibility and attention brings more risk. Leos should not be allowed to act on case law, and it should ONLY be used internally by them to justify their common sense approach to given situations. And even responsibly and carefully crafted laws are open to interpretation. And in this State, we don't even have those by design.

I do agree, 308 is a great place to start and learn with, especially since it will make your mistakes much bigger. The inherement ballistics of modern cartridges are much more forgiving to misreading wind, etc. of course if you do reload, you can overcome those issues by loading long. If someone is limited to factory Ammo, for target shooting, the new wonder cartridges such as 224 valk, 6mm and 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, 300 Norma, 300 PRC are far easier to shoot well, especially at distance. 308 great to learn on. Have a video coming in a bit with an interview with Hornady engineers talking about this.

Welcome aboard! And yes, it is Taylor Ham!