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Probably didn’t have a weapon light.

39 shots and missed... is he a cop?

Although 39 shots/no hits sounds almost unbelievable to me... I remind myself that not everyone who owns guns is actually into guns. I'm sure there's people who buy a gun for "self-defense" not realizing that the gun is only one small part of the self-defense formula. You have to know how to use it! And I'm sure a lot of people don't get instruction, don't practice, don't belong to a range, etc. - and the gun sits there years at a time, unused, while what little knowledge/skill they do have fades into nothing. So, in that scenario... add in a full-blown state of panic... and a moving target...sure, I could see someone wasting 39 shots... moreover, I'll bet those 39 shots were blasted away in mere seconds.

"Why do you need mags with more than 10 rounds?" Well, this is why.

What... Someone broke into Cyril Figis' house?

Reduced recoil for faster follow up shots.

Maybe he dropped his P320 down the steps?

Yeah I can’t see Frankford being as well made as Forster. I could be wrong but usually their stuff is pretty low quality.

The West Deptford (Crown Point Rd (Rt44) between I-295 Exits 21 and 22) shop is open on the old Mantua schedule (Tues-Sat) The range renovations (pretty extensive given the shit condition Hagues left it in) should be complete in 2 more weeks, then the whole operation goes on a 7 day/week schedule. Given that the NJSP NICS unit is closed on Sundays, obviously you cannot take possession of a firearm purchase until the following Monday. Glenn and his crew are busy stocking and organizing the shop. Stop in and see them!

3+1, why even bother?

I’ve heard you Coast Guard guys like it rough.

I finally got to try out the Wrangler I picked up a few weeks ago. The fit and finish are good IMO. There are some gaps in the fit of the grip frame but not anything I'm concerned about in a $200 gun. Great job with the cerakote and bluing. The trigger is a bit heavy and not as good as my Single Six. It will probably smooth out with use. My Single Six probably has a bazillion rounds through it. The Wrangler's loading gate is a little stiff but that will work in. How does it shoot? From a rest when I was doing my job with the right ammo I was able to shoot 2"+ groups. About the same as my Single Six. I could probably do better if i wasnt over 100 years old. The sights were dead on for windage. Elevation varied depending on what ammo (high velocity, standard velocity, and bullet weight) but that can be expected. Reliability was 100%. IMO Ruger has a winner here. Great utility grade revolver at a fraction of the price of anything comparable. Half the price of a Single Six. I've seen the Heritage go for $130 online but add in shipping and transfer fees vs $200 I paid from dealer stock and it's a Ruger! @fishnut you can fan these but the stiffer action and checkering on the hammer will probably chew up your hand.

And I’ll bring plenty of straws for everyone to drink your pork soup.

About ten years ago I ran across a rather interesting revolver - a S&W Model 544. I'd never heard of it before, but I bought it because: 1) It was an N-frame; 2) It had a 5" barrel (a favorite of mine); 3) It was chambered in a caliber that started with a "4"; and finally 5) I couldn't pass up the price. This was the gun only, but that was fine by me as I bought it as a shooter. The 544 is the Texas Wagon Train and Sesquicentennial (1836 to 1986) Commemorative. There were approximately 4800 of them manufactured. This gun was significant not just because of the events commemorated, or the not common barrel length, but also because of the caliber: .44 Winchester Center Fire (WCF), better known by its black powder appellation the .44-40 (.44 being the nominal bullet diameter - actual .427" - and the 40 standing for the standard loading of 40 grains of black powder. This is the first, and AFAIK only, post-war gun made by S&W in that caliber. As I did my research, I found out that these came with a nice basswood case with a detailed inscription on the lid. Again - of little matter to me as I intended to shoot it and paid a "shooter" price for the gun. I think it made it to the range once, and then back into the safe. In my new incarnation as a S&W collector, all of a sudden that case, or more to the point the lack of the case, became important to me. Most collectors will tell you that generally commemorative guns usually are not more valuable than the non-commemorative counterparts - so when I buy a commemorative I look to pick it up for the same money or less, than I would if it weren't a commemorative. There is no non-commemorative counterpart to the 544 and it generally brings a little more than a regular N-frame, in any standard caliber, when it is complete with the presentation case. So off I go in search of the correct presentation case. I found one on eBay. It had some scuff marks and scratches, but beggars can't be choosers. The problem was the seller wanted stupid money for it, but there was a "make an offer" option - which I did, based on what the standard S&W mahogany presentation cases were selling for. The offer was declined. I waited a month or so (this had already been listed for about 4 months - you'd think the seller would have had a clue) and went back and sweetened the deal a little. This offer was also declined. I thought I'd let them stew for a while. Last week I checked to see if it was still for sale - it was, and at the same stupid money. But lo and behold, there was another one listed, and this one was in pristine condition. It was also overpriced, but not to the degree the first one was, and it, too, had a "make an offer" option. So I did - a little higher than what I had offered on the other case, but this one was in much better condition. My offer was declined. This time I contacted the seller and asked them how big they thought their market was for a case that was made for a very specific gun and which originally came with that gun. Also pointed out what you could buy a regular S&W presentation case for, which was not restricted to a particular gun. Within two minutes of my sending the message, he accepted my offer. LOL. Without further delay, here is the case... and here it is with the 544 ensconced... Have a happy fourth of July. Adios, Pizza Bob ADDENDUM: The above was the resolution of the "gun with no case" dilemma, but I have another, not so easy dilemma - that is the "case without a gun". I am looking for a 1981 S&W 629-1 Iditarod Commemorative revolver - just the gun. If you should run across one in your travels, PM me here. Thanks folks. PB

I think for most people here it's about sticking it to the state. We have no hope of changing the law and no hope of a Supreme Court ruling so we do what we can.

We *ALL* have justifiable need, neither your choice of religion, nor your combat service (thank you), warrants any more special treatment than anyone else. NJ wants you unarmed like sheep to the slaughter.

Millennial anti-theft device...

Sad to say but the Toyota will likely last longer with less repairs. My DD is a Toyota because I can always depend on it to start and get me to work. Ill never ge rid of my wrangler though. However I do most of the wrenching on It myself

i talk to Brandon from Franklin Armory pretty often, do you want a short barreled gun? Do you not want to move from a communist state to have one? this is your work around

people always find something to bitch about. Free speech and all, which they are completely entitled to. Just know they kill their own morale and perpetuate a doom and gloom which isnt really helpful.

The negative posts in this thread are a good example of how people in NJ are "different" from people in other states. Something about NJ seems to make people negative about everything, including being negative to people trying to provide alternative solutions to the gun law problem in NJ. The same is true for any 2A issues, the negativity stifles everything.