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The sad/ugly truth is people as a whole are lazy and wont, they will grumble about it but continue to shop there because it’s close/easy/cheap.....same as the “shall not infringe”/ “molon labe” chest pounders, cars stickered all up, 70%of their wardrobe is T-shirt’s with those phrases, online in one post pontificating how no more, not one more inch, etc etc .... then the next day talking how cool a single shot ar 15 is, accepting and ready to buy one to comply and kiss the kings ring hoping for a radical change in the laws/social climate is coming The farther it’s allowed to go the less chance there is to right the ship .......unfortunately I believe it’s been allowed to go to far in the wrong direction already, they have built up too much steam through successes to be able to stop or turn it around now.....all the incrementalism that’s been taking place for years has allowed them to set things up for the future .....and that future is painfully close

been reloading for years never owned or even shot over a chronograph I think I saw one at a range once

I am dumbfounded how you or anyone else can get into reloading and subsequently hand loading and NOT having a chronograph. It's like being a PC tuner without the ability to measure temperature, or a mechanic working on engines and not having access to the ECU or a dyno. Following the "book" load is all fine and dandy BUT when you are playing near max loads (and generally that is where the majority of people choose to go), you NEED to know the velocity numbers out of YOUR gun, at YOUR elevation, in YOUR shooting environment. This is far more critical than going down the rabbit hole of cleaning primer pockets, lol. And btw, the Chronograph, may just tell you that all of the meticulous case prep work you are doing does not make any difference in the actual results as the powder charge you are at is not in an accuracy node. Get a chronograph, do a ladder test with your chosen powders and bullets, find the accuracy nodes, load some up, throw them at paper, generally the accuracy node will equate to nice tight groups (due to low extreme spreads and standard deviation), and then go down the rabbit hole to see how much more good prepwork can cut down in group size. GET or borrow a chronograph.... either a cheap $100 Shooting Chrony/Competition Electronics OR a $500 LabRadar. But without knowing the ACTUAL velocities, you are shooting with half of the information. If you want to borrow my chrono, you are more than welcome to... just remember, you shot it, you bought it. Or you can come shoot with me and try out my new LabRadar.

Werd

for the love of christ man.......i'll handle wings. Smoked....not boiled #LOVESMESOMETATERSALAD!!!

Personally, I'm all for apparel that screams "I'm SPECIAL". It's like a billboard that reads, "avoid interacting with me". The ironic part, im sure for the price you could find a better, REAL plate carrier, that didn't look so silly.

What if you could buy one that looked like this.. maybe Maks can start a trend?

Why don't they just open up NICS to everyone?

Good. The shakes are gone.

For those of us in NJ, this cartridge is the answer to a question that we can't ask. We can't hunt with rifles and we can't shoot past 600 yards. For the guys out west of us, this is an awesome cartridge that will smack medium sized game down at 500 yards. It will also serve well for the ELR guys out there shooting steel at ridiculous distances (That said, the 6.5Creed/6.5x47Lapua/.260Rem will do a mile) . The biggest factors that will limit folks getting into it will be brass and expense. Brass will be a sticking point as the Hornady brass does not have the greatest reputation. I've honestly never heard of ADG Brass so I can't comment there. I'm like @Shane45 where I'm not sure where this cartridge lies, but that's true with a lot of cartridges IMHO. The overlap and redundancy in cartridge availability is kinda mind boggling, but the variety is where the beauty is. So, yeah, it's cool and all, but I don't think I'll be on this bandwagon any time soon. It also looks like it takes a magnum bolt face which could be a large negative factor in the cartridge catching on. You can't just build it on what is considered a "standard" short action in which the bolt face is .473. Short action/magnum bolt face actions are not always easy to come by... From the Hornady website: "Dubbed the big brother to the 6.5 Creedmoor, the 6.5 PRC fits in short or medium actions with a standard magnum bolt face (.532”). It’s efficient case geometry features a long cartridge case neck and 30 degree cartridge case shoulder."

Reminds of a dumber version of people that wore those Avirex fake aviator jackets with all the BS patches they didn’t earn.

I was thinking of starting a new thread relisting all the companies that have turned Politically Correct and decided to lean with a political party, as a reminder on where everyone should NOT shop.

I heard amazon will announce next.

Mrs Tex LOVES your potato salad!

Coming soon!!

Holy crap, that's ugly as F. This almost beats the guys that wear their pants down below their ass crack.

She gonna be topless?

I see it more about Principles and political leanings. I think these companies making these decisions based on such a small minority issue, and going against established Constitutional rights, is the BIGGER picture. When these corporations make decisions that affect half of their customer base, based on political pressures, it's akin to shooting themselves in the foot. One thing I learned early on in business, Never Sh*T where you Eat! Walmart has decided that a portion of their customer base (the Trump voters) aren't important to them. We should show them how bad of a decision that was.

Don't be a silly obstructionist, Greenday, by nitpicking his language...I'm sure you know what he meant! A young minority male is not a story that would be showcased on the websites of MSNBC, CNN, etc. - that's why you rarely see gang violence given premium space on their websites (e.g., on the main screen, accessible without scrolling), or covered at any length on evening news programming for that matter. That's also why defensive gun uses - though common - are RARELY covered by mainstream media. Generally speaking, only the cases of guns being used heinously by white male mass shooters remain in "optimal "viewing position for days or even weeks on end. Editors have great power to shape the news and this is just one of the ways they do it. Take your blinders off, young man!

Incidents like this are the very reason why we NEED firearms!

Stop picking on @voyager9 - face it, he has carefully cultivated a near-intoxicating level of mystery and intrigue. He's a man who is always invited, yet rarely seen with those who desire his company. He's totally working his "personal brand" - like a boss. Gotta respect that, Zeke!

Crockpot chicken wings? Jus a thought....