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What I want to know is why the hell is NJ spending $70m annually on firearms?

This. This is what it comes down to. Ham is already a thing. It exists. Everyone knows what it is. It is codified and defined and had been for years prior to John Taylor’s invention. It is a particular cut of meat from a specific portion of a pig - and if you are gullible enough to believe that all the meat in Pork Roll comes from the upper portion of a pigs rear legs I can guarantee that you are sorely mistaken. Think about this: If you walked into a Deli and ordered a ham sandwich and received Pork Roll you’d probably not be happy, right? Why? Because Pork Roll is no kind of Ham. If I called a roasted carrot a T-bone steak and sold it as such, I would rightly be told I can’t call it that and would have to change the name. Additionally, it was never Taylor Ham, it was Taylor’s PREPARED Ham, so if you “original name” folks want to stand by that shaky argument, at least get it right. I will concede Taylor Pork Roll as an acceptable name if that’s your preferred brand.

As we all know, the State must have some contracts where older firearms are traded in and replaced with newer ones/models. The traded in firearms are sold in the secondary market and one way or another the State benefits from this arrangement. Not sure if these traded in firearms and sold exclusively in NJ or in other States as well, some of which probably have the loose gun laws that Murphy complains about but I suspect many are sold out of State. So the State of N.J. is really in the gun business, the very business Murphy complains about. Also in the HI-Cap mag business because these used law enforcement pistols are 15 rounders and those guns are probably turned in with those Hi-Caps and make there way to States he complains about that permit Hi-Cap mags

Wouldn't it be great if none of the State's suppliers sent in a response. Murphy will have effectively made it illegal for the State to buy arms and ammo.

I'm pretty sure @Smokin .50 is a member

I denied the food pyramid for years until they made beer the sixth major food group.

No, you can't name something it is not and sell it as such.

In a recent online nj poll on pork roll/ taylor ham saga. The results are in. The shell on the left we have people who call pork roll- taylor ham. The shell on the right we have people with common sense and know its Pork roll.

It will be 18 years tomorrow . NEVER FORGET.

Alyssa Milano coming with an "open mind" to meet with Senator Ted Cruz on September10th to discuss firearms and the Constitution. https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/ted-cruz-accepts-alyssa-milanos-request-christian-meeting-hear-your-bullsht-1st

Same capability the M1 Garand has, and the manufacturers sold a few of those over the years.

I have been reading all the briefs in this case. Paul Clement for the Petitioners has written 2 briefs referring to this silly argument by NYC. Here it is, about 25 pages or so. It's worth reading. Basically just because the state changed the law does not mean NYC did. If the state recent laws disappeared, the city opinions would remain intact. The only way to give the petitioners true relief is to make the court decide on it. https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18-280/114641/20190904133735900_18-280rb.pdf

It says it includes townships that buy through the state program as well as ammo and other supplies. But I wonder what other perks. I wonder if its not time for the companies to leak about the golf trips and the like the top brass and politicians get when the go on the "business trips" to the gun makers.

Any chance you’ve got an issue in the BCG? Loose gas key? Occlusion in the gas key? Does the bolt itself rotate and extend smoothly? Gas rings on the bolt intact?:

This is what I use for dimpling and aligning a gas block. https://www.wingtactical.com/accessories/gear-tools/gun-tools/slr-rifleworks-ar-gas-block-dimple-jig/

Hmm... I guess they missed that whole "freedom of association" thing in the Constitution. But they are not big on the Constitution to begin with.

I've been a member for approx. 20+ years. I love it! I'm a former trustee & current discipline co-chair and match director of the PPC hand gun league. The outdoor range is easy to get to, and plenty of places to stop for brunch-lunch-dinner on Rt. 516 alone. We're a club that is comprised of various shooting leagues. Knockdown Steel is just ONE of the many leagues Old Bridge runs. If all your shooting has been standing in a port, you're in for a real eye-opener, lol! You'll have a ton of FUN at our range! Be safe & enjoy! Rosey

Heh, well, it will let the bad guy know you are out of ammo. I am sure it will save some time for mag dumps... but I am trying to imagine what problem this solves.

As far as an online purchase, it has to go to an FFL anyway. I think he thinks he can hold an FFL responsible for that gun's destiny. He's going after them and anyone that finances the gun world. Again he's not coming after us so he can continue the lie that he believes in our gun ownership and just wants common sense laws. POS!

Should this be a favorable decision does anyone know if the NJ NRA affiliate prepared lawsuits to hand to the AG's office to force them to comply. We know they will not go down easy, our next ten moves should have already been planned and prepared.

Careful Tx, Arkansas ain't that far from Texas. And who can forget "Broke Back Mountain" ???? Let me just say the last Clays meet, nobody left hungry and everyone's food kicked ASS!

Not sensitive about it...I just know the difference between proper bbq and crock pot boiled ribs!

That scotusblog opinion sounds like the wishful thinking of a liberal lawyer. It sounds like so many liberal comments I've read who (figuratively) shout from the rooftops that the law has been amended so there's no point in the case being heard. If it's not such a big deal why are they raising such a ruckus about it? If it is such a minor case it wouldn't have garnered so much agitation from NY trying to moot the case.

How do they encourage the improper use of firearms? Just because they provide insurance does not mean they encourage the improper use of firearms? If anything they encourage the safe use of firearms. Their products are purchased by responsible gun owners. Irresponsible gun owners do not bother to purchase these products. More bullshit.

So looks like they changed it to 30% off now. The 40% code no longer works. New code is SAFSALE30.

Bennies its called pork roll.

Listen up, buddy! A man whose screen name screams his flagrant allegiance to another state should NOT even be weighing in on this! Do I tell you what kind of BBQ to cook? NO, I do not. That would be highly inappropriate... and rude. So, pipe down, you interloper.. you foreign invader, you! (Besides, you've clearly fallen right off of your horse, cowboy, and landed on the wrong side of this controversial issue).

Yep, they're good. Plus you can open carry while shopping there.

Bacon is my favorite vegetable

i was trying to figure out how to get in. Im in. Im off of work all winter so that works for me.

Show me ‘HAM’ on this package.

The nuance with this one is the location has to be club that submitted its membership list - you do not have to be a member. The only get out for the location is to be a certified instructor and the location is "suitable for training", or the person you are doing the temporary transfer to is your child.

True. Though part of me would like to see the Republicans submit it again and get the Democrats on record and call them out for voting it down.

I apologize for I guess a silly question. Can you swap out the SBA3 brace for an SBa4 on the Troy A4 "other" ? https://www.sb-tactical.com/product/sba4/ Thanks.

Why shouldn't Democrats worry about losing the elections? Apparently depression is covered by Obamacare

So, just the one guy, drinking alone?

IANAL, but Rosey is correct. I explicitly discussed this with Evan Nappen at several US Lawshield seminars. If you are a member of a club that meets the requirements of the 2:39 verbiage that PK90 posted above, then you fall within this additional exemption. One example of such a conforming private club is Union Hill Gun Club, where I am currently a member. In contrast, this does not apply to a club such as Garden State Shooting Club, where I was formerly a member. (I confirmed this with Tony in a conversation some time ago). I assume because, being a public club renting to walk-ins, does not provide a list of members to the state.

As the resident redneck here, the damn package says Taylor PORK ROLL....ham is NOT mentioned on the damn box. Sorry...I gotta call it as I see it, the package says Pork Roll, it’s Pork Roll. Argument settled.

It’s not about “helping” people or “saving lives” ..if that were the case it would be “common sense” legal system reform....and stop dropping gun charges and turning violent criminals back on the street to continue their bs.... it’s about and has always been about disarming the populous...specifically the law abiding they just do it this way under the color of ”saving lives” to get the bored stay at home moms aka moms demand attention err action and the sjw on board with the “cause of the day”

Don’t you have a little havoc to create e tuff guy? Stop discussing breakfast meat. Change the world! You can do it!

Chicago Mayor Lightfoot: "The problem is all the guns coming from Indiana where they're easier to get." Chicago Tribune Reporter 45Doll: "Well if guns are the problem and much easier to get in Indiana, why isn't all the shooting going on over there?" Later that day... Chicago Tribune Editor: "45Doll... you're fired!"

Maybe you'd have to ask John Taylor what he was thinking originally? Pork roll [1][2] is a pork-based processed meat commonly available in New Jersey, New York, Delaware and parts of Pennsylvania and Maryland. It was developed in 1856 by John Taylor of Hamilton Square, New Jersey, and sold as "Taylor's Prepared Ham".[3] Other producers entered the market, and subsequent food labeling regulations required Taylor to designate it as a "pork roll" alongside its competitors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pork_roll

From the article: "North Jersey calls it Taylor ham, South Jersey calls it pork roll, and Central is split on the issue, though most of the Central Jersey places visited on my road trip called it pork roll. (All Taylor ham is pork roll; not all pork roll is Taylor ham.)" - Hogwash Pork roll is pork roll, Taylor ham does not exist. The parenthesized sentence would be accurate if written like this.; All Pork Roll is Pork Roll; Not all Pork Roll is Taylor Brand Pork Roll. NJ.com.....Pffft.

That’s basically what was proposed back in 2013. Buyer uses a public NICS portal to initiate a background check. They get notified if/when it passes and is given a token. Seller uses that token at the portal to verify prospective buyer passes. Transaction completes. Seller does not have access to buyers PI. No info on the firearm is passed or even if the sale commenced seller gets piece of mind that buyer was not prohibited what’s not to like? oh, right. It’s not a registry and it’s not a burden or PITA so the Democrats killed it.

I shot this in .308 and I thought it was the cat's pajamas! If NJ ever really screws us with an AR ban, I will go this route.

They will suffer if they eat that boiled meat

She gonna be topless?

That seems to be a growing trend. I don't agree with it, but you would do that stuff at your peril in this unjust state. The "case law" would be examples in which legal gun owners have been victimized by this State. I cannot refer to one exactly with that situation, but look how Bryan Aitken was treated or the host of Gun for Hire. If your guns are taken unlawfully and without due process, see how easy it will be for you to get them back and how expensive and time-consuming it will be. Even if you are found compentent and the court goes in your favor. Additionally, realize that you would have an "arrest" record AND if even one gun is NOT returned you would not be legally allowed to own guns ANYMORE until you get it back. And, it could take months to years. This is not a Republic. I'm just giving the best advice I can give. Just because I can legally drive around with a long-arm doesn't mean that it won't create a problem for me. Handguns and Hollow Points are even more of a problem for you. Dot your "i"s and cross your "t"s and drive carefully. Common sense and justice have little to do with it.

So far so good. I’m 359 rounds into this build. No malfunctioning. Smooth as butter. I shot m855, m193, and black hills 75 grain. It really liked the black hills Carbine length system, A5 buffer system, milspec bolt, pinned 10.5 1x7 government profile barrel, low profile gas block and a warcomp right hand timed. Thumbs ups. I’ll do another 900 this week.

Got one of these in Burlington Township the other morning on my way to work. Does Wawa label these different in north Jersey?