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He is a beauty all right. Done more for the 2A community that you ever would or could. If you dont know the facts you should keep your mouth shut.

^This

I concur with the mod in the sombrero! Seriously, @AVB-AMG.. I've been lucky enough to attend quite a few events that had high-level speakers (e.g., George W. Bush while he was POTUS, Madeline Albright, Shirley Chisholm, etc.). There's always a certain amount of pomp and circumstance when a high-level speaker is afoot, particularly a sitting POTUS (POTUS swaggers in with a cadre of Secret Service agents - it's kinda badass really)… and that stands separate and apart from their actual political views. As others pointed out, they're big, newsworthy events - especially in our tiny garden state. How's this? If the next Democratic president holds a rally in NJ, feel free to put it in General Discussion!

Politics? This is coverage and discussion of current events!

@AVB-AMG

^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^ You beat me to it!

If a shop tells me it's store policy that I show an FID card, I shrug and hand it over. Their store, their rules. If a shop tells me state law requires it, I leave, because I won't know what else they are lying to me about.

Here's the data from the ticket requests from Brad Parscal: Brad Parscale - Text TRUMP to 88022 @parscale Wow! New Jersey Data: 158,632 Requested Tickets (92,841 distinct signups) 73,482 Voters Identified 10.4% Didn't Vote in 2016 26.3% Democrats Mind boggling. 7:35 PM · Jan 28, 2020 ------------------------------------------- And if you were thirsty at the Rally, they had that covered too... check out the last one:

Looks like a good one for NJ gun owners. Its a start in the right direction. https://www.ammoland.com/2020/01/nj-supreme-court-unanimously-rules-in-favor-of-gun-rights-wait-what/?fbclid=IwAR1H2xT3HJji7C2UVTDiLWtaHnGKpK0UcsyMv-C_HtH30aDBr_xj7-77Nlo#axzz6CEiE3vdf

^^^^^THIS^^^^^ ALL DAY LONG! Being nice and answering questions is superior customer service. I pay a little extra for that and I'm fine with it. Most do the same. When I ran my photo studio I used to ask prospective customers that interviewed me if they wanted something to drink: Coffee, tea, soda, wine, beer, sparkling water. Yes, I had it all, and YES I wrote it all off! Once you hand someone a comp, a part of them is now connected to you. So they feel like they OWE you some business (in various intensities depending upon the person, and if food is also included). Easiest way to keep someone BUYING in your store is to FEED THEM so I had pizzas & salads delivered all the time. You bought a rifle, YOU WANT A SCOPE FOR THAT? Always ASK FOR THE FRIES just like McDonald's! Giving a prospective client something to drink means they might have to use the restroom. Guess where I hung sample pictures, testimonials, and industry awards & accolades in frames? You guessed it---the RESTROOM! For it is a SILENT SALESMAN! We used nice hand soap & paper towels and cleaned it several times a week. I've actually had folks compliment my restroom and ASK TO BOOK as soon as they exited it.... Sales is a psychological union between seller & buyer. And Mom & Pop's that wanna survive & thrive need to figure THAT out

I always felt like I'm being bent over by NJ gun laws as it is. When I go into what I consider a friendly place like a gun shop that understands what hoops we have to jump through just to purchase (NOT TO CARRY) than that friendly place starts making up more rules and laws of their own I won't be back. Last month I bought a gun in a free state. I rented one, walked over to the sales counter and bought it. All in All it took over an hour not weeks or months like NJ. The last thing NJ needs is more B/S laws. Gun shops should know that.

Mipafox was controversial and at times a ball breaker but he was ALWAYS on our side! He would become obnoxious when he saw people complaining about NJ gun laws but never getting off their asses to fight back and do something about it!

This.

Lets be honest. The reasons a gun store wont let a person without an FID handle a firearm are the following. 1. Stops the sales person from wasting time with a person who was bored while he waits for his reservation for dinner and thinks going to a gun store and playing with stuff is a good waste of time. 2. Stops people from out of state who are just passing though (New Yorkers) want wanting to see a gun store which they hardly see in the five boros. 3. The person might not even be prohibited and will never own a firearm so why bother wasting someones time. Its really similar to a Car showroom not wanting to waste time time with a 16yo who's getting his Lic in 6 months from playing in the cars and taking up the sales persons time. We usually handle it slightly different.... We have had a few people come in without FID cards... We are do answer questions they have but when they start wanting to see firearms i usually tell them You are a few steps away form that....You need to get your FID first then we would be happy to spend whatever time you need to choose your first gun. The key is to not be a dick.... You can give people the time without wasting it by just multitasking..

Nope. Wrong. Dude. Whatever

So, now do we all start applying and clogging courts with these cases?

I'm in. He's in the building. Just put Prez seal on podium.

Ok, now that is one is off the rails, too. Let's work out the logic of it Unless the law changed and I missed it, the law doesn't an require an FPID to purchase a pistol. The law doesn't require an FPID to rent a pistol. The law doesn't require an FPID to transport a pistol The law doesn't require an FPID to own a pistol And now some store clerk is telling me the law requires me to have an FPID to handle an pistol at a gun store? GTFO with that BS. Tell me it's store policy and I'm ok with that. Tell me it's the law and I'm out of there. But, otoh, NJ does require an FPID to buy pistol ammo, but still.

I look in the mirror every day and I like what I see. I dont begrudge people for their successes. I envy them. I can only hope to achieve what some others have. I support their efforts, not belittle them. Who do you think is behind the scenes fighting for your rights every day? Have you sent your ballot in yet?

They require a Amex black card to afford their prices as well lol

Yeah, maybe it is all of the people that left NJ because of the high taxes, corruption, crime and lack of freedom returning to their homeland to stand for America and liberty.. Oh wait, no politics, right. AVB are there any good Hotdog or Pizza places in Wildwood?

Miss him too

@Mrs. Peel smaller towns often share radio frequencies with am adjacent town or towns. There are also county wide and state wide police frequencies. I didn't look at the bordering towns but the town this happened in has a patrol division of 27 officers for its 10 square miles. They probably only have 3-5 of those officers on the streets at the time of the incident. The incident appears to have been called in as taking a report of suspicious activity that had occurred. Most likely one officer responded to the call. The suspect car went by as he was taking the report. I looked at a map and the distance from where the chase started to the Route 46 exit from I80 is about 2 miles. At 60 mph that takes 2 minutes. I'm sure that speed was exceeded. The short answer to your question is many police departments have fewer people on the street during late hours. That plus the fact they had maybe 2 minutes to coordinate "heading them off at the pass". A combination of officers available, officers close enough to get involved, and time. Hope this answers your question.

I believe the consensus is...no one cares what he thinks.

Correct. With an A5 receiver extension, you can use a 11.5” barrel and not pin&weld the muzzle device.

A standard carbine buffer tube and 11.5” barrel (unpinned), is just shy of 26”. The A5 tube should be fine unpinned.

The television and radio media circus attention after Koby Bryant’s unfortunate death from that helicopter crash, is absolutely ridiculous and over the top! It just goes to show just how much our society has devolved to today and what/who it really values: idol worship of celebrities! These celebrities include professional athletes and film/television actors, pop musicians, etc, some who have used their platform for beneficial causes, while others are just intoxicated by the adulation of the masses and sometimes do not handle all of that attention very well. While Bryant's death was certainly sad, either ignoring or worse yet, the revisionist history about his sexual assault allegation, as well as the sudden glorification of him as a person, placing him on some silly high pedestal, is totally out of control. He was a very talented professional basketball player who also helped kids... all-in-all, better than many folks. But anyone paying attention realizes that the mainstream media just wants to get more clicks, eyeballs and ratings by sensationalizing his death and discussing it ad nauseam. Worse yet are the other celebrities who are blatantly outdoing each other to fawn over Bryant, making any historical contact with him into some important moment in their lives and then tearfully discussing his passing, for their own benefit, (i.e. Ellen Degeneres and Jimmy Fallon, etc.).... Enough already! AVB-AMG

That's like trading cow shit for horse shit.

wish I could trade avb for mipafox.

Shooters always asks before handing over a gun. Personally, I feel it's a nothingburger, life is too short to worry about this type of stuff. Are people this upset when a cashier asks for ID when paying by check? Everyone should be MORE upset with the fact that Trenton actually makes you get the (unconstitutional) FID in the first place....

Kansas City Firearms and Cornerstone Arms are showing 1 pound cans available for online orders. -Longranger

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The whole thing was on C-SPAN 2 uninterrupted. The crowd was lit! Bring it to the heart of the beast. Next time sell out the Meadowlands.

Whew, I half thought you were going to accuse Trump of shooting down the helicopter to distract from the big impeachment.

Video of the crowd

National press already going with the narrative that NJ is deep blue and most of the attendees are from out of state.

It sounds like the local watering holes will be very entertaining! Have fun down there.

Getting ready to head down there in a little while. No hope of getting in (and no way I would have either the patience or stamina for that), but looking to hang out with like-minded people, and take in the whole experience. I'll be sure to report back in a day or so.

Ha.. in other news, here's a picture of a Biden event in Iowa, where they're having a caucus in a week. I think there are more media people there than attendees... Look at the size of the crowd this MORNING for Trump!!

https://nj1015.com/thousands-in-line-before-daylight-to-see-trump-nj-rally-is-tonight/

That's YOUR media....

https://www.nj.com/news/j66j-2020/01/674b6387b96799/grills-signs-and-other-sights-from-the-day-before-the-trump-rally.html

Its more of a company policy. If a person has no FID "most" stores including myself will not hand them a firearm. There are multiple reasons for this.... If a person with an FID wants brings another person in IE Son, Daughter Wife etc etc we have no issues allowing them to handle the firearm if the person holding the FID asks. Its common for a dad or mom to bring a kid in to see if a firearm is comfortable for them.

We're probably going. No way we can get down there early enough to have any shot at getting in, but we want to hang out and see what the whole experience is like. Thinking it could be fun, if the weather is OK, which is what it looks like in the forecast.

Kinda. My favorite description of a helicopter is that it is a 'swirling mass of metal fatigue surrounding an oil leak'.

That's the first thought that came to my mind. Then I remembered there's a list of things that are only wrong if conservatives do them.

Not for me, better check on your side. ...."There is just no way that the state of New Jersey would close Route 47, also known as Delsea Drive right before United States President Donald Trump is set to come to Wildwood; Unless it was an absolute necessity. Right?, I have lost track of the number of people who have asked me if this is a circus stunt by New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy … in order to politically retaliate against President Trump, right before his fast-approaching Tuesday, January 28, 2020 Rally at The Wildwoods Convention Center? Tens of thousands of people will be traveling to Wildwood, New Jersey. It begs the question: Is this Bridgegate 2? (emphasis added)"