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Just goes to show...no amount of education can teach someone to admit they are wrong...epic fail kiddo.

It is amazing that you now nothing about me - yet your proclamation that I don't understand what they are talking about, speaks volumes of your maturity. Alright then... as others have said, it just might be the time for the ban hammer - or at least a lengthy time out. I wasn't using a study, I was using a white paper from Johns Hopkins that states. In February, the Coronavirus Study Group (CSG) of the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses officially named the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2. The CSG analyzed viral genomes from several patients and assessed phylogenetic (evolutionary) relationships between the new virus and known coronaviruses. The committee found that the genome of viruses isolated from patients was similar enough to SARS genomes to be considered a variant of SARS, not an entirely novel virus. While the clinical presentation, epidemiologic patterns, and host range of SARS-CoV-2 may differ from the original SARS-CoV, it is the genetic similarity between the 2 viruses that is used to conclude they are the same species. Once again you cannot admit you are wrong - very wrong - so wrong, that you have neither the maturity nor the smarts to see it and/or admit it.

Aspirin was researched and synthesized by a scientist at Bayer in 1897. They had no idea how it worked, but the anecdotal evidence proved it was effective in treating pain, inflammation, reducing fevers and useful as a blood thinner. Aspirin was prescribed and available otc for 73 years before it was discovered how it actually works. In 1971, a research professor at the University of London finally solved the mystery of how this marvelous drug works. They already knew it worked, it had been working for a long long time, but now they knew. Aspirin is directly responsible for the deaths of over 3000 people annually in the US alone. It is not safe for everyone, but it indisputably alleviates suffering and saves far more lives than it takes. When prescribed by a physician who is aware of the specific conditions under which aspirin is safe and unsafe, the drug is a net gain. The moral of the story: If it works, use it. Figure out how it works later.

It's the people who respond to his posts who keep him here. As I've said numerous times if everyone were to stop responding to him he will go away. He just here to troll and he has fooled many members into taking the bait over and over again

"Proof" from one of your house organs, Georgie? Methinks not. Lets see some hard data, hm? "Wired". what a joke you and your ilk are. Uneducated and uncouth and unknowing. Begone, you boorish flapdoodle!

To use your own words.... I'm glad you think your degree in internets makes you smarter than medical professionals and molecular biologists and virologists who have devoted their lives to dealing with this stuff.

Don't get yourself all worked-up trying to decipher NJ gun law as written. Instead, do yourself a favor & study the EXEMPTIONS & EXCEPTIONS for they are your FRIENDS! Some NJ gun laws are in direct conflict with others. Some make no sense whatsoever. Like having to be 18 years old to BUY a long gun but you can take it on your bicycle (I.E.: UNLOADED & cased) on hunting excursion w/o adult supervision IF you have a hunting license and you're hunting in-season. If the NJSP in Kingwood don't care (you already unzipped your fly by calling them, right?) then why keep asking questions? FWIW there's a private club I've shot at in Kingwood. So there is NOT a "No Discharge Ordinance" there! When you go to the farm, remember to stop at Speedwell Targets, just down the road from NJSP Barracks in Kingwood Cardboard, paper & steel targets. They take paper & plastic, but call ahead to make sure you don't need an appointment to tour their giant warehouse! Tell Robert that Rosey sent you!

I have never stated any opinion on either side of the issue. I do not have the education, qualifications, training, etc to speak on the topic in any constructive manner. You, on the other hand, seem to think you are an expert on every topic posted on this forum yet fail to ever post anything of real value.

Lol, I am not confused in the slightest.... The problem however is the person that thinks they are the smartest person in the room - far too often isn't - even though they think and pontificate like they are. Find a mirror, go stand in front of it look at your reflection and read the above statement. From a johns hopkins white paper.... SARS-CoV-2 Genetics Updated April 16, 2020 Key Findings for Public Health • The outbreak was initiated from either a single introduction into humans or very few animal-to-human transmission events. • SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2 use the same cellular receptor, ACE2, which could be used as a starting point for creating therapeutics for SARS-CoV-2. Background Coronaviruses, including the pneumonia-causing novel coronavirus currently known as SARS-CoV-2, are enveloped, nonsegmented, positive-sense RNA viruses. Coronavirus genomes have some of the largest genomes among RNA viruses, with approximately 25-32 kilobases.1 The typical CoV genome includes a 5’-cap, 5’-untranslated region (UTR), open reading frames, a 3’-UTR, and 3’-poly(A) tail. The first two thirds of the genome typically codes for nonstructural proteins from 2 open reading frames that form the replicase complex. The last third of the genome encodes primarily structural proteins.2 There are 4 conserved structural proteins across CoVs: the spike (S) protein, membrane (M) protein, envelope (E) protein, and nucleocapsid (N) protein.1 The S protein is responsible for binding to host cell receptors and viral entry to host cells. The M, E, and N proteins are part of the nucleocapsid of viral particles. SARS-CoV-2 Naming In a paper published early in the pandemic,3 viral sequences collected from the earliest patients were assessed and compared to known viral sequences. Sequence analysis of 11 samples found that SARS-CoV-2 is in the same species as SARS-CoV; the 2 viruses are 94.6% similar in amino acid sequence (80% nucleotide sequence similarity) across the genome.3 However, other studies from early in the outbreak do not consider the viruses to be the same species, as they differ by more than 10% in the replicase genes.4 In February, the Coronavirus Study Group (CSG) of the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses officially named the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2. The CSG analyzed viral genomes from several patients and assessed phylogenetic (evolutionary) relationships between the new virus and known coronaviruses. The committee found that the genome of viruses isolated from patients was similar enough to SARS genomes to be considered a variant of SARS, not an entirely novel virus. While the clinical presentation, epidemiologic patterns, and host range of SARS-CoV-2 may differ from the original SARS-CoV, it is the genetic similarity between the 2 viruses that is used to conclude they are the same species. For this reason, the CSG has named SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 as variants of the species known as Severe acute respiratory syndrome– related coronaviruses. The name SARS-CoV-2 is distinct from the name of the disease, which the WHO has officially designated COVID-19. (end) Given the fact that they are so closely related and share quite a lot, while genetically they are related they are different to a degree. Given that HC and C, were considered for sars-cov, it is not unreasonable to think you couldn't apply it to sars-cov2. Additionally, usage of it as a last resort is not the place to use it, some have determined. It has better results when used earlier... By then clotting is tje major cause of organ failure, or so has been reported. Stop being intentionally obtuse..... and a dolt. I work with young folks like you daily, and they far often than not make asses of themselves. No matter how much paper you hang or letters you place after your name, it cannot give you common sense. Now go find some blocks and play, adults are speaking

I have been ignoring the bastard for a very long time but it does me no good since his idiotic posts are quoted by others! He is allowed to run amuck because nobody here has the the good sense or balls to ban his troll ass! He runs the board, not the mods!

I *was* a fan of fauci...now i question his motives.... Something stinks.....

I honestly stopped reading his post when he tried to compare animals with genomes over 3 billions bases long with a virus that has maybe 30k. Or they can have no difference at all, or differences so small that it only relates to infection methods and different immune system responses.. leaving the replication components widely the same.. The fact is, most differences between viral "species" is the relative effectiveness or affinity for binding with host cell receptors. Replication machinery, the stuff most antivirals go after, is relatively unchanged. There are roughly 3 million SNP's in the human genome.... and you're harping over 1,000 base difference between SARS1 and SARS2. Your assessment follows no real science. It also questions why this was not brought up before... It's like a leading doctor who discovered that Tamiflu was effective for Type A flu, and just never bothered to mentioned maybe we should see if it's effective for type B.... Dr. Fauci knew it showed effectiveness in SARS(1), there is no reason WAY BACK IN FEB he wouldn't get a new study up and running IMMEDIATELY, and discuss publicly that a prior study is being used to direct new treatment options... It appears Trump had more sense than he on the topic... which is pathetic.

Here's what I see: "You've chosen to ignore content by Greendy. Options " Until someone quotes him!!!! Don't waste your time on a troll. Many here have been nice and tried to use reason and common sense with certain individuals. He just keeps coming back with the same CNN crap.

Nice, you're golden. Can I come too?

Don't want the FAA gettin' their panties in a bunch neither! LOL! Kingwood. It's ALMOST Free America! ~R

King wood. Norf and souf of 12 is gunshots all weekend. I’ve shot at 2 locations in kingwood. Just don’t shoot the planes landing at sky manor.

Greenie seems to think that it is unreasonable as a starting point to employ a medicine used with some success against a coronavirus against another closely related coronavirus. What's the alternate plan? Just pull out random meds willy-nilly and try them? I have some Preparation-H you could rub all over yourself but you would disappear.

I one post you say that is is not "remotely relevant", and in another post you type that they are both coronaviruses (SARS-COV). Nobody said they are the same, they are similar. Either you are such a narcissist that cannot accept that you are wrong, or you are much less intelligent than you think you are. Forgot to add:

He doesnt run SHIT! His posts are typical liberal drivel.

Try now. Just showing the ill informed that they are both SARS.

I agree it is speer contract ammo from 2010. From what I have read some overruns were sold as Speer Gold Dot ammo commercially. Not sure what contract lot 33 is from

According to my research these headstamps were started for export contracts. France for one country. The 033 would be a lot number and 10 would be for 2010. Finding these headstamps here would indicate an over run of ammo or just cases for export.

I truly believe if you were a MOD, we would have shall issue CCW in the PRNJ! Seriously though, if the microstamping case was sent back with STRICT scrutiny, would that make all the lower courts use strict scrutiny in every 2A case or just that one?

https://www.justice.gov/doj/webform/your-message-department-justice Took a few minutes of my time. We know Murphy, Callaghan and Grewal will not help us. My letter as a sample for those that wish to use it: Attorney General Barr, I am contacting you today asking for your help. You have been quoted as directing federal prosecutors to "be on the lookout" for overly restrictive state and local shutdown orders that may infringe on people's constitutional rights. It is my belief that NJ Gov Murphy and NJSP Colonel Callaghan are doing just that by keeping Private and Public indoor and outdoor firearms ranges closed. Initially NJ closed all FFL dealers as well; it was only after Federal guidelines were issued and threat of lawsuits that they allowed FFL dealers to open (with restrictions). He then delayed allowing the only NJ Approved fingerprinting company to resume printing; as well as the department within the NJSP that handles NICS checks. This past weekend, Gov Murphy reopened parks and gave Golf Courses the green light to reopen. Citizens that wish to exercise their Second Amendment Right and maintain perishable marksmanship skills are still prohibited access to Private Ranges under threat of fines and/or imprisonment. There is no science to defend the different treatments of its citizens by the State of NJ. Outdoor ranges far exceed social distancing guidelines, unlike golf courses. Indoor Ranges have advanced air filtration systems and can be sanitized quickly in between users. Gov Murphy and Colonel Callaghan have both publicly expressed their distaste for the Second Amendment as well as those who support and practice it. They have been using the ongoing Pandemic as a tool to punish law abiding citizens and will continue to do so until they are forced to stop. Thank you

I expect they will take the CA microstamping law. No one with any reason can expect a law to survive when the technology does not exist. It's a safe bet for the conservative 4 but will Roberts agree to send it back to the 9th to be heard under strict scrutiny or will the Supreme Court just declare that law unconstitutional and call it a day. I think they will stay clear of the carry and AWB cases as Roberts can't be trusted.

We bond very quickly here on NJGF.

Could you ask your friend if it's ok to bring 15-20 of your close friends? I'll buy lunch, and Zeke said no crockpot

Mee too @Cheflife15

Specifically, Kentucky does.

IANAL, but, in my personal opinion, if the farm is 450' or farther from a park, school, or playground, you are 99% GTG. https://www.kingwoodtownship.com/KT_Committee/2014/Ordinances/Kingwood_Ord 18-12-2014_Safety_Zone_(updated 10.7.14).pdf

It may not have been mentioned in voice or print outside the scientific community. So I'd call the news 'public, for a small group of people, but unknown to most folks'. The press would have had to dig pretty deep to find the references to HC or C as an antiviral--and I don't see them doing that--but within the virology community it was known. The publication in The Virology Journal in 2005 wasn't even the first time the antiviral activity was called out. This publication The Lancet has references citing the antiviral activity going back to at least 1983 Antiviral Activity of Chloroquine Those are some high-profile publications, and I assume they prompted additional work over the years, though like the press, I'm not bothering to dig more deeply. :-) The articles in Virology and elsewhere are why C was one of the first things tested against the new coronavirus. Pharma companies have libraries of millions to tens of millions of compounds stored away. Most didn't do a damned thing useful when they were synthesized as part of some drug discovery effort or other--but they are useful to test when you start the next new drug discovery effort. But where to start? Even the best high-throughput screening program is going to take a lot of time to churn through 10 million compounds. So the process worked pretty much like this, at every pharma company on the planet, starting in March, give or take a few weeks: 1) Test everything we have that has shown activity against any coronavirus (C and HC turned up here) 2) Test everything we have that has shown activity against any virus (Tamiflu, remdesivir, and a few others turned up here) 3) Test everything we have that was made as part of a program to develop antivirals, even if it didn't work against other viruses 4) Test everything else we have in the library; try to figure out some logical order for it, so you test the most promising molecules first 5) Start synthesizing new molecules for testing, incorporating what was learned from steps 1-4 I think every pharma company on the planet completed 1) within a couple of weeks, and I think all were done with 2) and 3) sometime in April. So now everyone is working on 4), which has a low likelihood of success, but you gotta try, and 5), which has the most potential to deliver an effective drug, just not anytime soon.

Geico Skytypers will fly over NYC, NJ & CT today. WWII planes.

Going to mention this on Hannity tonight.

:/ i guess you better let them smart people know.... they seem to disagree with you.

Can't read all of the above. Formatting issues.

Naming the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) and the virus that causes it Official names have been announced for the virus responsible for COVID-19 (previously known as “2019 novel coronavirus”) and the disease it causes. The official names are: Disease coronavirus disease (COVID-19) Virus severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is caused by a newly discovered coronavirus (SARS-CoV) ^A gift from China in2002.^ It would appear that Covid 19 is simply SARS Corona Virus #2 The drug, when given at early to mid stage seems VERY effective. Waiting until the victim is near death before giving the drug and then reporting it does not work is MURDER! If Obama was President today, Chloroquine, would have been used at early to mid stages and healthcare workers would be taking it to prevent the disease. The Country would have NEVER closed down! Donald Trump IS President and MANY innocent people HAVE DIED AND WILL CONTINUE TO DIE FOR POLITICAL GAINS FOR THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!

I have been told that Chloroquine works, is generic, and cheap. Dr. Fauci has recently appeared to be pushing Remdesavir, which is expensive, and is also a big proponent of creating a vaccine. I think there is going to be lots of money made out of this pandemic, and it won't be made from treating with Chloroquin!

AK prices are ridiculous. AR prices are ridiculous too, but in the opposite direction.

King Bucky Beaver's Goons

....and, it looks great! Arrived this morning

Let me know when they fire LaPierre

And what's the number to place take-out orders?

Been going to GSSC since they opened, very satisfied all around. You won't be disappointed, IMO compared to others I've been to they're best indoor range around.

Brick Armory is dead. Since 2015 or so, the facility is now Garden State Shooting Center. The new owners renovated the showroom and range. It is a whole new place run by honest people. They allow rifles up to 300 Win Mag. No green tips or steel core or other armor piercing ammo.

Really? I'll have to look for them. It was brand new for me today. I spent the whole five minutes laughing with this woman and it's not even Beer Thirty yet!

I would like to see this overlaid with gun crimes - the anti-2A thinking is that lower ownership should result in lower crimes, right?