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If all of you self-rightous keyboard commandos got half as upset and militant about your 2A rights as you do about wearing a damn mask this state would be a very different place.

Clue Less A simple mask is an insult to you and a limitation of your freedom? You sadly have lived a charmed life and do not know what restriction of freedom is....luckily i do not either.... but i work with some that did..... and i hear their stories..... So...Ok then...... The cavalier attitude to a public health crisis is kind of amazing actually...but wait...there isn't one right? Its all a ploy to get the big bad orange man? Its just a bad flu, right? You mean when i ask the ex nypd guys in security i deal with at a local ny hospital, if this is real or not....and they say very.....they are making up the 5 to 7 refrigerated trailers stacked almost 60 to 70 deep of bodies every day..of all ages..are lying? You mean the ER..doc who says he see just as many otherwise healthy young people come in with a cough and shortness of breath and are dead in 3 days..is a sham? It can't be that a volunteer fire fighter on LI i know saw three members die of it...one in a short as ten hours..cant be true, right??? But a mask is an infringement of your rights....while your country men die around you.... you frankly should be ashamed imo....you should be willing to do what you can to help protect your fellow countrymen.........if that means were a mask, even if it helps a little....you should. Btw your Franklin quote doesnt mean what you think it means in the context of the letter he wrote in 1755.....an interpretation is here.... read the letter its online...its ...umm interesting. WITTES: The exact quotation, which is from a letter that Franklin is believed to have written on behalf of the Pennsylvania General Assembly, reads, those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. SIEGEL: And what was the context of this remark? WITTES: He was writing about a tax dispute between the Pennsylvania General Assembly and the family of the Penns, the proprietary family of the Pennsylvania colony who ruled it from afar. And the legislature was trying to tax the Penn family lands to pay for frontier defense during the French and Indian War. And the Penn family kept instructing the governor to veto. Franklin felt that this was a great affront to the ability of the legislature to govern. And so he actually meant purchase a little temporary safety very literally. The Penn family was trying to give a lump sum of money in exchange for the General Assembly's acknowledging that it did not have the authority to tax it. SIEGEL: So far from being a pro-privacy quotation, if anything, it's a pro-taxation and pro-defense spending quotation. WITTES: It is a quotation that defends the authority of a legislature to govern in the interests of collective security. It means, in context, not quite the opposite of what it's almost always quoted as saying but much closer to the opposite than to the thing that people think it means.

Here's my thinking on the issue. Masks have some effectiveness against Covid-carrying droplet transmission. They're not useless, as some will argue, and everyone knows that they aren't 100% effective. So if I'm out in public where social distancing isn't possible, I'll wear one. If I'm just out for a walk or a drive, I won't. But here's my other consideration. I've long been concerned that it is hard to go anywhere in public without being recorded on multiple surveillance cameras. So when I am wearing a mask (and usually glasses I don't need and a ball cap) in public, I figure I'm also screwing with the surveillance state. And that makes me happy.

Heavy flow day?

My new P320 RXP X Full. Just wish I could shoot it now.

I must have received a dozen notifications of range reopenings, which I welcome as heartily as I do emails from Oroho informing me that there's a coronavirus flying around, and from Allstate that "no action is required." I'm sure there'll also be so much patting on the back, both genuine and self-inflicted. Just like the announcement that retail was reopening. If by reopening they mean we can still order online but now we have to wait in a 40 minute line to pick up our CUOMO for PRESIDENT boxer shorts. Guys, the ranges are not open until we can enter the premises as free people taking whatever precautions we ourselves have decided are appropriate, up to and including staying home. Until then we are beholden and (willingly) subservient to the various connivers operating behind the scenes to grant us a tiny sliver of our rights in return for shutting up. Somebody please show some testosterone.

My new P320 X5 Legion and P320 RXP X Full. I don't know how much longer I have to wait to shoot them for the first time....

I just booked in for the carbine class - It's about time I learned to run it properly. See you guys there. I'm on standby for the pistol class this Saturday too. ETA: I just looked it up and it's just down the road from EFGA, right? That's only 45 minutes from my house!

Higher power = shorter eye relief & smaller field of view

I had a strike Eagle 1-6 and I can tell you that get what you pay for AND remember - in all things - there is a difference between best price and best value. The SE was a great entry into the world of LPVO and in that regard it served its purpose. But with serious use, I quickly found its limitations. There is a reason that the Vortex SE is under $500 and serious use 1-8 LPVOs are closer to $2000. The Trijicon is much more robust and the quality of the optic is much higher than the Strike Eagle. The Accupower has better glass, larger eyebox, more forgiving eye relief and, a better reticle (admittedly, the reticle preference is completely subjective). More magnification does not equal more gooder. I would trade higher magnification for reliability, clearer glass, a larger eyebox, and more forgiving eye relief all day long.

time to harass utility workers. and ray, while I understand your aversion, there will never be a Snow White clean cause or person to support.

As long as it isn't a handgun or a semi auto rifle not SAFE Act complaint you should be good.

This just goes to show you that your past will always haunt you. And that your enemies will use it against you. Now, having said that, I do not like alcoholics. I despise drunk drivers. So, this is me saying goodbye to this thread.

I have done it plenty of times....no bracelets so far....

Sneezes do not travel 8 meters if the sneezer is wearing a mask. Once again, large droplets, the source of this infection do not linger. Aerosols lingers. Aerosols are not causing this infection. My solution has nothing to do with never interacting again. It has everything to do with getting this disease isolated and done with. There are over 5 million people that have had this disease and tested positive for it. The number is likely 10x that but the fact remains, 1.5 million people gave it to those 5 million. Most, except the sociopaths would not have interacted with others if they knew they were infectious. Until we test and trace everyone, the only way to stop it is to keep people from passing it along. That you have some "Muh freedom" hangup on it is mind boggling. If people would stop infecting others, it would go away. The sooner we accomplish that, the faster we can get along without masks. Everyone is acting like spoiled children. "but I don't wanna wear a mask, it's hot and uncomfortable". Grow up.

I helped a friend. Settle down, Beavis. @Ray Ray wants your phone number, dude. Don't give it to him.

We are members of their coffee club. I think we get 2 bags every two weeks. The shipping got a little screwy at the beginning of this mess. Good company, does a lot of good beside the good coffee. Been doing Just Black the last couple of months, also like CAF, Coffee or Die, and AK-47.

Does anyone care to predict how this plays out if the doomsday outcomes (1) never happen (2) partially or sortof happen (3) happen? My predictions: (1) move on to the next predict-the-future scenario, which may or may not include guns but will certainly be targeted at our demographic (2) The media will say "told you so" but when the counter-arguments come in (only 2 people get sick and nobody dies), then go to (1) above (3) demand re-closing everything -- we probably won't, but this will increase the length, thickness, and turgidity of the hard-on our governor has for guns not used directly for his protection, and for gun owners in general.

drjjpdc, I'm in central NJ near Trenton. I have been to Central Jersey a few times and it is a great facility for sure. dajonga, thanks for the info on Shooters since I don't do facebook.

If we don't join these protests, we are no different than the sheep and we deserve to get what we got. A Hair salon in parsippany is opening June 1st Be There! Be at every one of these that occur in you part of the stste! If you know of one post it and BE THERE! That's what we need to do to stop this bullsh!t. Enough whining "when Will the range open" Well they're open are you happy about the ridiculous terms? Step Up! Be There! Be heard! Be Loud! Do you know of ANY protest rally or a business that's defying the King orders? Let's post them here Time: Place: Here's what occurred today: New Jersey hairdressers, barbers unite to send message to Gov. Phil Murphy VERONA — Hairdressers found themselves in a tough spot at Verona Park on Wednesday, trying to maintain the proper social distance while standing united as they called on Gov. Phil Murphy to allow them to reopen. Clad in industry black, about 200 hairdressers from around the state gathered at noon in a park meadow for what organizers called a "photoshoot" — not a protest—since mass gatherings are banned under the current State of Emergency. There were no speeches, and really only one message from the hairdressers as they tried to stay 6 feet apart while Essex County Sheriff's officers looked on: We are ready to reopen with new sanitary protocols in place. "We have to go back. For the owners, there's no unemployment," said Ann Marie Nardone, the owner of Portray Salon in Montclair. "We're losing a lot of money. We'll abide by any guidelines, but we need to go back to work." "Enough is enough," said Tricia DiFranco, the owner of Hilights Salon in Lyndhurst who during the shutdown put together the NJ Salon and Spa Coalition on Facebook. DiFranco, who employs 30 people at her salon, said she used to do $120,000 in business a month. "Now it's zero," she said. THIS IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE! At Every opportunity like this! THEY ARE BECOMING A DAILY EVENT SOMEWHERE IN THE STATE. SHARE THE INFO NJCDL we can form this get your firends informed that's how they did in Virginia, they didn't leave to to the NRA GOA NJ2AS ANJRPC or anyone other group they did it amongst themselves

One of the easiest ways to enhance both the function and/or the aesthetics of your handgun is with custom grips. The beauty is that it is easily reversible or changeable if, down the road, your tastes change. I have been working through my S&W revolvers and either changing to the Smith smooth target offerings, or custom offerings. Smooth S&W grips are usually goncalo alves, but rosewood and even maple have also been used. Here's an example of smooth grips (these are presentation grips - meaning they are relieved on the R/S to show a custom roll mark on the side plate... They made them in configurations for the various frame sizes and grip frames. Here is a set of what are called "banana" grips (for obvious reasons). They are shown on a Model of 1953 22/32 Kit Gun... And then there are the all-out custom grips. I've installed elk stag grips on a number of my guns. Ken Driskill is the maker and he does terrific work at more than reasonable prices. However, you can't place an order with Ken. This is a hobby for him and he makes what he wants, when he wants, so it's a matter of being in the right place at the right time to get a set of his grips. He advertises them for sale on the S&W forum and also on Gun Broker (GB ID = bigmtnman). Here's a set of Ken's stag grips on my model 25-14... As far as custom grips in wood, there are three makers who are the pre-eminent craftsmen of S&W grips. They are Craig Spegel, John Culina and Keith Brown. Craig Spegel makes boot grips, however he also makes an extended version of his boot grip, which, in essence, are full size grips. Craig is 63 and currently has a two year waiting list for revolver grips. I was fortunate to purchase a gun that turned out to have Spegel grips on it - unbeknownst to the seller (a large gun store in the Pacific NW). These are ebony boot grips on a model 25-3. If they look familiar, Craig did the design of the Uncle Mike's rubber boot grips... The Culinas, John and Jennifer, make grips in the style of the stock S&W grips, but better shaped, better quality and some beautiful woods. Here are two examples of John's work. The first is a Target grip and the second is a Combat grip (both on models 24-3). Both are made with "bubble" maple - a variety of birdseye in which the "eyes" look three-dimensional (very hard to capture that effect in a picture)... And last, but certainly not least, is Keith Brown. Keith also has a two year backlog and is not accepting new orders at this time. He is a master at both the carving of the grips and the checkering. He may be best known for his Roper style grips with Roper's iconic ribbon checkering pattern. I just got these today (there are some available through brokers or private parties) - I will say that I have paid less for some Smiths in my collection than I paid for these grips, but I so love the Roper pattern that I just had to have the best. I passed bidding on a scarce Model 28 so that I could buy these grips... There are lots of commercial manufacturers also. Some of the best known are Hogue, Altamont, Eagle, Badger, Pachmayr, Nills, KSD and others. The truly custom makers are dwindling. Ahrends and Herretts are both out of business, hopefully others will pick-up the mantle. Adios, Pizza Bob

Garden is in. Usual assortment of tomatoes, peppers, and cucs. Got a few hybrid tomato plants for entertainment purposes. We'll see how they do. Also picked up some blue Jade corn seed. We put some in a big planter on our deck. Stalks grow to 4-5' and produces these 5-6" blue/purple ears of corn. We'll see how that goes. Lol

Some people are just so nice!

So, should we ban smoking too? And drinking alcohol? Maybe ban food too?

Sold this one 3 years ago https://imgur.com/rrUQxeC https://imgur.com/VISYc5R

And from Providence RI........

https://www.foxnews.com/us/missisippis-tate-reeves-becomes-butt-of-the-joke-with-high-school-prank.amp The Simpsons show should give this kid a job

You can shoot any NJ legal gun at Cherry Ridge. At the pistol range they'll probably limit you to pistol calibers, so if your NJ legal "pistol" shoots .223/5.56, 7/62x39, etc, etc they'll probably make you move to the 50/100 yard range. Otherwise you should be good to go.

$175

Yep! Lots of itchy trigger fingers need to be scratched! Be safe, everyone.

Amazing how hard they fight for their master.

Yes. Corn sucks soo many nutrients out of the ground. I did a 6/12’ raised bed of asparagus 3 years ago. Soo much asparagus. Its a perennial. Lasts for about 20 years.

Ray ray. As per your response of they are 12 lbs. if you have girly arms. Well you should lift weights or something. Thats not my issue if 12 lb weights are too heavy for you. I have no problem with that rifle standing. Neither does the military. Idk what to tell you.

People in NJ just need to say screw you to the Governor and the cops. If enough people had the balls to show up the show of defiance would make a difference. I just saw that here in VA our shitty governor's order for people not to use the beaches for sunbathing and swimming were ignored. Here is the link: https://www.foxnews.com/us/virginia-beach-weekend-crowd-northam-reopen-memorial-day?fbclid=IwAR0np26du6SU-pmejcJpiMWQRQAPe4ukcWVi9yEr62x69SZEamGw9eeZAh4

That was a lie to prevent a run on masks. Listen, I still think they are an abominable organization. The fact is numerous sources have been saying this EXACT thing for a while now. A stopped clock is right twice a day. The facts finally overwhelmed the agenda. The bottom lines is that the primary routes of infection are NOT FOMITES. You don't have to sanitize your mail or your groceries or even wear gloves when you are out. You should still keep unclean fingers away from your face holes(mouth, nose, eyes) but even if you don't, it's probably not that big of a deal. It shows that barriers and distance work. Also, the evidence is very strong that outside activities are essentially zero risk. What to avoid is large gatherings, indoors where lots of people are speaking loudly or singing. If you do go to one of those...wear a damn mask or stay 20 feet from everyone who isn't wearing a mask. Mask it or casket in those situations. Or wearing gloves in general when out as virus precaution. Fine for warmth or style, but nitrile gloves to stop infection aren't doing anything.

My thoughts exactly. We should at least be able to get it to a federal circuit.

Because SCOTUS is not proactive - someone needs to bring a case that has failed in the lower courts.

P226, P229, P320 X5 all in 9mm

That’s a huge Johnson!

Remember to take breaks and stay hydrated!

in the near future you might find ACOG's cheap, now that the Army switched to the Sig Tango 1-6 and the Marine Corps is switching to the VCOG I think Trijicon might discontinue the ACOG. I agree with High Exposure, you can get Accupoint's and Accupower's for a lot less. I have the Accupower 1-8, has a FFP reticle like a red dot, nice 28mm objective lens for better visibility. I like the Accupower's reticle options over the Accupoint along with better windage and elevation turrets. The only downsides are the battery life and with a 34mm tube it's a tank on most rifles, I run mine on a AR-10 and it's perfect for that application, not ideal on a AR-15 for me atleast. Outside of the VCOG and ACOG you can get most trijicon optics for less than their listing price. Accupower 1-8 has a list of $1800, I see them selling for $1100-1200 regularly. I've been told the new Credo line is replacing the Accupower so you might find Accupower's even cheaper. I have both an Accupower 1-8 and a Nightforce NX8, it's tough to say which one I like better. I can give you a comparison between the 2 if you're interested but if you're not looking to spend $1500+ on a Nightforce, go with a Trijicon.

Thanks for your feedback. I’m not really that familiar with them as all my variable scopes are much higher on the magnification range. I love the brightness and clarity of the ACOGs. Will the smaller objective of the typical 1-4x hurt in the regard? I’m content to put it on 4x and leave it, which is why I was looking into a fixed scope. Having variability I’m not going to use must have some detriment, no?

In the not too distant past, I’ve bought several new TA-31Fs for $800...just have to poke around and find a deal. I’ve also bought several used, excellent condition TA-31F and TA01NSNs for $450-600. Deals are out there.