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That's FOPA for transporting THROUGH NJ. The law under 2C39-6 says: g.All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b., subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

Greenday looked down in the dumps, and his friend AVB asked him what was the matter. “My wife is pregnant again,” sighed Greenie. “This is the eighth one. I have no idea how I’m going to afford another mouth to feed!” AVB realized Greenie’s predicament and suggested, “Perhaps you should consider getting a vasectomy.” “I already did,” replied Greenie. “All it did was change the color of the babies.”

"And so Democrats move to raise the purchase price of firearms and ammunition so that only the richest 1% and their armed security guards can afford them." Let's read it that way.

@WP22 thanks for the tag! You are correct. As punctuation matters! Comma, OR LOCKED IN THE TRUNK OF AN AUTOMOBILE.... @Decastro458 FWIW an UNLOADED hand gun wrapped in brown craft paper & tied with bakery string is a secured package. Secured enough for a little old lady to throw on her front seat next to her as she transports her SECURED PACKAGE to an appraiser, gun store, gunsmith, to the range, etc., etc. All EXEMPT locations WITHIN the state of NJ. Please don't take this the wrong way, but you're not the only person driving around with hand guns in a SUV. Oak Ridge Firearms is a NJ FFL. They posted the correct info, so you can take it to the bank! @WP22 did also. WP tagged me so I'm here. With 48 years of firearm handling experience as a NJ resident, and VP of NJ's most active 2A organization, the Coalition of New Jersey Firearm Owners (CNJFO). https://www.cnjfo.com/news First thing you have to do is promise me you'll never look at the actual laws OR the NJSP website pages that have the supposed laws printed on them. Why you might ask? Answer is simple! The laws contradict each other to the point of confusion, so you're better off studying the EXCEPTIONS & EXEMPTIONS that allow us mere Peasants to own, handle, possess, and transport firearms. For all possession starts out its sordid life as INHERENTLY ILLEGAL, and only exists in the hands of us Serfs through the use of said EXCEPTIONS & EXEMPTIONS! Go back & read that AGAIN! Transporting firearms is like breathing air. It's easy if you don't ask permission or get OPINIONS on a forum where actual gun ownership or state residence isn't required...meaning the EXEMPTIONS are your friend! Most new shooters automatically confuse themselves with INTERSTATE transportation rules (FOPA) and apply these more stricter rules to INTRASTATE (that means strictly within the 21 counties of NJ) transportation of firearms. For some unknown reason, our lawyer/politicians employ Stu-nad's to type the Bills (because the politico's are much too busy screwing us) whose vocabulary never contained the word INTRASTATE. The world would be so much simpler if they did! Here's some REALITY: Attending a hand gun action match at a local private club, even as a visitor that isn't shooting, will open up your mind to what is actually done by competitors as they travel the circuit both within NJ and traversing several states for regional & national competitions. Many of them travel in SUV's. Some follow the more stricter "FOPA Rules" just in-case, and competitors traveling into NJ from out of state usually do so always. WAIT....WHAT? Non-residents bring hand guns INTO NJ w/o a NJFPID card? How can this be when NJSP website says it's a CRIME? LOL! Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus! Read on please! Others like me (who MOSTLY stay inside NJ's 21 counties to compete) will load mags at home, and grab their pistol bag w/ 4 unloaded hand guns, and put the loaded mags in the same bag, but in a separate compartment (my bag is YUGE). Flip open the tailgate of the SUV, and place said gun bag (unlocked, with zippers closed) just inside the tailgate, as far away from the driver as can be. Then we'll throw a blanket over the whole shebang. DONE! On to the match! Upon arriving, I don't EVER NEED to seek-out bolt cutters for those tiny "feel-good" padlocks on zippers OR regular size locks on my .50 cal ammo cans. I just shoot the match since I don't have keys to locks THAT DON'T EXIST to LOSE.... Gun ownership in NJ is "AT YOUR OWN PERIL"! A sitting NJ Superior Court Judge said so, as is often quoted. Learn the EXEMPTIONS & the EXCEPTIONS. Don't concern yourself with asking permission to breathe air. Meaning, don't fall into the trap set by left-wing politico's to make you second guess everything you do with your firearms. Become educated on HOW to exercise your EXCEPTIONS & EXEMPTIONS! And if you have some spare coin, please consider joining CNJFO here: https://www.cnjfo.com/join-us And now for your entertainment pleasure, a video of @Krdshrk & I at a private range last month in Free Amerikka: Dave "Rosey" Rosenthal, VP Coalition of New Jersey Firearm Owners (CNJFO)

"OR" is the most important word for the issue at hand. 1- if you don't have a trunk "shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, Further :"....shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package,". According to the law a gunbox is ok, a closed and fastened box could be a shoebox tied with a string and a secured tied package could be my wife's old pantyhose tied with a knot. Any of those options satisfies the LETTER of the law. It's contained, closed, fastened and securely tied. 2--OR (if you have a trunk )"locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported,..." If you have a trunk, just toss it in and slam it shut. Last gun I bought, I put inside a garbage bag and tossed it in the trunk. And I could even had forgoed the garbage back since it was a face to face, cars parked next to each other, in the days that was possible to do. And no laws were broken. This is MY interpretation of the law. But each other has their own comfort level, so act accordingly.

Yes the laws are definitely difficult for noobs to understand and were possibly designed that way to discourage people from owning firearms. I'd be willing to bet that because the laws are so confusing we get many new members or lurkers here because they start to Google NJ firearm laws

It is and it always was even before the state police said in their website it was. But you must remember the good old days when we had arguments about it. Even that famous attorney was quoted as having had said an eager DA could make the case it wan't legal so it was better be safe and carry them unloaded. So, it's no surprise folks get confused about what's legal or not regarding transportation, hollow point ammo possession, and so on.

@Decastro458 the only one wrong in this thread was greenday. Best thing you can do is put him on your ignore list. As you will see if you stick around he's just a troll here to spread misinformation. I legally transported handguns in my jeep wrangler often when I lived in NJ. As @SmittyMHS, @Smokin .50 and @WP22have already stated just put the handgun in some sort of container and out of your reach and your GTG. Also its perfectly legal to transport LOADED mags just keep them out of the gun.

I'll wait here

Heres another F U... Right here in my town of North Hanover, virtually in my backyard, just through the woods... He'll have a hard time stopping it since its already done.. And a really really hard time 'embargo-ing' 47,000+ flags... Ironically, as he announced in his press conference today, he will be there this holiday weekend...

His head will explode when somebody tells him how they transport their guns while ridding their bikes.

He did... and everyone provided the correct NJ state statute for legal transport. I've watched someone walk out of an FFL with a gun(used) in a brown paper taped closed... The NJSP are not known for providing accurate legal advice... and i don't believe they are even allowed to do so anyway. But who will stop them? Since NJ statutes provide the accurate info, i would in the future reference that, not the State police FAQ page.

I wanted to highlight this part. Courts have ruled a visible gun case give cops probable cause for a search. https://www.thenewspaper.com/news/41/4110.asp

My latest 1911 purchase - Kimber Custom LW in 9mm. FFL had it listed as used, but it's never been fired. Was too cheap to pass up. Yes, I know Kimber has a mixed rep but I've always had good ones. I like the two tone with contrasting controls.

Only if he's OK with it. He's the last man that I want to have lost trust with.

For the price, RIA guns are impossible to beat. 45 acp or STFU

Just working from memory (too lazy to look it up), I believe that applies to transporting handguns through New Jersey, not traveling within the state with them.

Your welcome. Btw, a few additional tips: 1) I take I-195 and get off at exit 16, the exit for Great Adventure. Turn left toward Great Adventure, continue on 537 and make the left onto Hawkin Road. Go straight approx 4 miles, the entrance will be on your left. (When you first get on Hawkin Road, do NOT make the left onto Reeds Road. My GPS had me do that my first time going there and I ended up in the middle of nowhere.) 2) Once at the CMWMA entrance, the range is 2 miles ahead. (At about 1.5 miles the road forks. You need to make a left there. There is a small (like 6") sign pointing left. Easy to miss. Then in about 1/2 a mile, you will see a clearing on your left. Turn in there and the archery range will be on your left and gun range ahead. If you instead reach a lake, then you went past it a bit too far. 3) The parking area is about a 50 yard walk to the shooting positions. So a cart comes in handy if you have a lot of stuff to lug. 4) Even though there are a few garbage pails there, I bring all my garbage home with me and try to leave the place cleaner than I found it.

Correct.

Oh shit

Neither need to be "locked in a case" Just secured. You can wrap it in a towel tied with a red ribbon. Same goes for ammo. Just not together.

I fell for it once.......maybe twice.

This one made me laugh out loud when I first saw it:

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I let this sit for a week before responding. There are a lot of things people here are unaware or misinformed. LEOs give up a lot of rights when they take the job. So does anyone going into the military. LEOs and the military are supposed to be politically neutral. There are not only department regulations but laws that govern the conduct of LEO's conduct in political activities. The Hatch Act is the Federal law covers employees of the Executive Branch which includes all Federal LEOs and even state employees where Federal funds pay most of their salary. It is designed to prevent government workers from being involved in partisan politics. Using one's postion to endorse a political view is not allowed. I have seen this interpreted to include making a public statement even if they don't mention their government position. NJ has similar laws as do most states. These laws don't apply to officials in elected positions like Sheriff Bianco. His political position will be judged by his voters. There are those that say the laws and regulations should be overlooked in Anderson's case. I don't agree. When the laws and regulations are overlooked and LE can be involved in partisan politics we wind up with phony "Russian Collusion" dossiers used to get FISA warrants. We get an attempted coup by a rogue AG and a corrupt FBI Director. Anderson was given several chances to take the video down. His chief was trying to keep him out of trouble. Anderson decided to do what he did. He's losing his job as a police officer. He got a payday anyway. https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-officer-anderson/campaign/gallery/0 Over $436,000 in two weeks. Pretty good severance package. We'll see what he's going to do with it. Fight in court to get his job back? He violated regulations and probably some WA laws doing what he did so that seems like throwing the money away. Maybe he'll take a couple years off and sail around the world as he said he'd like to in his video.

I used to shoot IPSC with Austin's son Frank, who now runs a sports memorabilia store in Lahaska. Franks son's name is Colt. And here's a little story about Austin. I can’t vouch for the truthfulness of this story, but it is one of my favorites. Austin was set-up behind the line at Camp Perry one year, doing some gunsmithing. A distraught competitor ran up to his tent and explained that he was due on the line shortly and he had just noticed that his front sight was bent. Austin took the gun from him, examined it and confirmed that the sight was, indeed, bent. “Can you fix it?” inquired the owner, hopefully. Austin told him to pick-up the gun, grip it as he normally would, extend it out to a firing position and turn his head. The owner complied, at which point Austin picked-up a brass mallet from the bench and whacked the front sight, nearly knocking the gun out of the owner’s hands. The owner went ballistic, screaming, “What have you done?” to which Austin calmly replied, “Look down the sights,” which the owner did. “Is it straight?” inquired Austin. After looking at the sights the incredulous owner said, “Yes, yes they are”, to which Austin replied, “That’ll be $15.” The owner protests, “$15? That’s highway robbery. All you did was hit it with a hammer.” Austin looked at him and said, “It’s only $5 for hitting it with a hammer, but $10 for knowing how hard.” Adios, Pizza Bob

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