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It was 2 years this past may that we moved to NH. We are saving 10k a year just in property tax alone. Add in free preschool, no sales tax or state income tax and the fact that my wife and I both now make more than we did in NJ and that cost of living is about the same or slightly less than NJ and its the perfect environment to grow our savings instead of living paycheck to paycheck. To top it off we don't really need to travel far to vacation/recreate. I'm litterally in the middle of White Mountian National Forest. Infact were taking our daughter camping for the first time this weekend and the spot I found is only a 9 mile drive and a 1 mile hike. We will be setting up camp less than an hour after leaving the house!

Like Fishnut, it was 2 years ago we left NJ for New Hampshire. My property taxes are about the same here as they were in NJ, but with no state tax and no sales tax, I saved enough the first year to pay for the move. I miss our friends and some of the things we did ther,e and there is NO good pizza here, but it will be a cold day in hell before I ever move back to NJ. With the new borrowing the state just dug the deep hole deeper. I don't see anything good happening in NJ during my lifetime.

Years ago I had two 100# cylinders for my range. Buying bulk was cheaper, it was considerably less than what it cost to fill five 20# tanks. I'd throw them in my truck and go to the refilling station. Easy peasy.

1 propane is equivalent to 5gallons of gas. I've used propane on my former genny throughout Sandy and was the easiest, most efficient, care free way to operate. Long lines for gas, I just stroll up to exchange propane tanks. 5 minutes vs 2hours in the line

This Nov, we will be here in TN 2 years. While I miss my old house, people and such, I'd never go back. For the first time in decades, we are always in the black. There were times in NJ where we couldn't afford a pizza once in awhile. Nashville is screwed up like most big cities, but in most cases people fight here. They won't be in office long. NJ dems are dug in because the dem voters are dug in. They just refuse to jump ship. Others, (and I have a few on my street), still think dems are the future and ask me stupid questions as to what did Trump do for us. I just cringe and tell them to research things themselves. So far, our taxes are low, no state tax, gas is fairly reasonable. My utilities are not bad. We actually have a growing savings account. I've said NJ has been doomed for years and it will continue to be doomed till it starts trying to go red. That won't be in my lifetime. On a 2A note, G&A put out their new 2A friendly state list for the year and AZ is still in the #1 spot. Guess where NJ is...

A Dutch oven isn’t a crockpot. The Dutch aren’t that fucked up.

Exactly... but the way some post here, they expect Mad Max to show up any day!

ftfy. A three month outage, that's getting into prepper territory. Might not even have NG if that happens.

I'd find that out before I got one. I'm sure anyplace that can fill cylinders could do any size. But with the new exchange-a-cylinder thing going on recently it might be a little harder to find a fill station.

The hardware store in Florida NY, Werners will fill it. Cheap too. Regular tanks are $10.

Crockpot crazy

Food fudds

With pineapple?

Same probs down here. But you should have a Panera down there for bagels, no? Their bagels are actually quite good. Pizza, same thing down here. Nobody tosses crust. They put it into a pile driver and beat it into submission. BUT, we have gained a northerner down here from Lodi, NJ and he opened Jersey Boys Kitchen. Finally, some NJ style cooking. From breakfast sammiches to home style meat loaf.:)

Haha there’s no pizza in FL either! It’s dominos and they it’s good. There’s also no bagels unless you go into downtown Jacksonville.

No worries. Rob... I knew where you were coming from. (Further remarks below do not refer to you, Rob. Just 'you' as all or everyone.) What aggravates me about the 2A argument in NJ from years ago is people saying, 'stay, don't move, fight for your rights'. Now do all these people still feel the same way? Circumstances change. I was done fighting years ago. Sometimes, you need to realize that wars get lost and battles don't always win.You got to at least win the major battles. Nobody has the time to take baby steps anymore... Take the spoils and get out. But I'm not saying don't fight for just your gun rights. It's been a losing battle. Fight because you want a better life on a whole. If you can get out, leave. If there is something anchoring, leave soon as possible and start developing a plan. Don't get pist off when all of a sudden you experience total failure and have no backup plan. That's on you... Watch this video below if you haven't seen it.

Do it right with Tannerite.

AvGas does have a longer shelf life--it's very low in alkenes and alkynes which polymerize to form the 'varnish' that gums up carbs. It's expensive...the smaller (i.e. cheaper) airports around here are selling it in the $4-$5/gallon range. And it's leaded, slightly (much less so than the auto gas of yesteryear). I've not encountered a generator with a catalytic converter, so trashing that isn't a concern, but don't run it in a modern auto even if the 100 octane rating is tempting. Self-serve is legal for aircraft in NJ, which amuses me no end...if you want to look for a local avgas source, check Airnav, open the airport tab, and search for airports near you At the bottom of each airport page you find, it will show the current fuel price, and if self serve is available. Then you'll probably have to call the airport to see if you can access the pump; sometimes you can, often you can't get to it in a car or on foot. The credit card readers often make you enter the aircraft tail number to start the transaction, but if they're making non-aircraft sales, they should be able to tell you the workaround for that.

I run my getset on NG except to fire it up once every few months. The pluses way out weigh using gasoline . I've looked into getting a big LP tank and found Tractor Supply, loews and HD all carry them. A 40lb tank would be like having 10 gal of gas on hand and not worrying about rotating the gas cans to keep it fresh. If you already have the conversion kit, it's a no brainer. If you've ever had to fill your generator in a raining lightning storm night, you'll leave the gas cans for the lawn mower. No a side note, if you are storing gas for any length of time I just talked to a long time small engine guy that says using hi test is the way to go. It will out last regular even treated. The alky is tuff on these small engines. And if you can get it, aviation fuel is even better long term.

There is a different issue that is perhaps more important. The amount of LP vapor available to burn depends on the temperature and how full the tank is. What works at 80F may or may not work at 0F. I did the math and my 14kw whole house will start starving if my 500 gallon tank is below 17% and the ambient temp is less than 20 degrees. What it means to me is that if my main tank starts getting low and it is really cold out is that I have to really cut the genset usage to the absolute minimum. In a do-over I'd have gotten a 1000 gallon tank.

No, nothing last forever. Your state is another example. Has always been a 'run to state'. But I don't plan on living long enough to care. How long do people have to fight the losing cause of NJ? - 2A is a dead issue and will only reanimate when all the old dems are dead... maybe... NRA is useless as a tits on a bull as well as their useless mouth pieces in NJ. Not mentioning names but you know who. These asshats come out smelling like a rose when they defeat the most smallest case while GOA and SAF actually fight tough battles and win. I've been a Life Patriot Benefactor for years and they are still not satisfied. They get no more from me. Poor Anthony, 'the tip of the spear', is busting his arse and for what? Just to have these swamp scum politicians look at you over their glasses while giving you the middle finger under the desk? I understand nobody wants to just roll over and die, but the outcomes are the same almost each and every time. All I know is now my blood pressure is lower, we are always in the black and so much more. You obviously ditched NJ and for good reason. BTW, as depicted, leaving NJ was not just about gun rights. I'm sure you know that. I'm in the country for the most part. It takes me 20 mins to get within city limits... I have farm animals for neighbors even though I live on a culdesac with brand new houses. I busted my arse all my life, worked since I was 13 and lived in a 1940ish house. It was def the time to get the eff out. I think we deserve it. New house, new cars and a lot more that we could never afford in NJ. Now just got to wait for wife to retire then maybe by another house in Kentucky...

It's all gone. Nothing left to fill the space except stale Corn Pops and rusty razor blades. Joe is about as sharp as a butter knife.

6/20-8/18 not bad. Shorter time frame than me by 20 days. Mine was 6/1-8/18 (picked up mine yesterday too). 78 days...

Update: So on 8/15 I received the application approval email as stated above. On 8/18 (yesterday) I got the call from my local PD that my permits were ready. I went yesterday and picked them up. When I got home they were dated 8/11...

One thing we’ve learned they’re consistent.

I run mine on only propane, a grill tank gets me 20 hours. According to the manual, 1.6 gallons of gas the tank holds will run 8 hours, doing the math 4 gallons of gas would be the same runtime of a propane tank.

I guess you have never been to Amsterdam.....but I'm cool with Dutch ovens especially when cooked in a camp fire

Yea, its surpassed anything I've seen before.. just checking gunbroker prices on closed auctions... its scary to think it can still get worse.

No crock pots allowed.

I'm guessing crock pots are banned from @Displaced Texan ranch

I lol’d.

It's monopoly money to democrats. Their mindset is, "Who gives a fuck? We are already in unrecoverable debt.Who cares about billions more?"

NJ is doomed. The democrats just can't get their heads out of their own ass. i know lets spend our way out of this crisis. Where still paying 400 mil a year in debt from Whitmans borrowing fiasco .

Time for you guys to move. As if it wasent already.....

Always remember, Zeeker, the difference between meat and fish: if you beat your fish, it will die.

Yeah there’s a Panera on the mainland that’s a pain in the butt to get over to. There’s so much traffic in Yulee and Fernandina (off island) that it’s not quite worth it. They’ve really built up over the last 6 years (and started earlier) that it’s like route 10 in East Hanover, you can’t get anywhere.

Well hold on there. Maybe just for target practice.

A Dutch oven is not a crock pot. It’s a cast iron pot makes for cooking over a fire.

It’s the original.... crockpot jus sayen