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Mark your calendars for this Saturday!! And head to Toms River!! If you support Law enforcement and are looking for a way to honor American Veterans on the last official weekend of summer, you may want to make your way to Toms River this Saturday. The largest boat parade in history is expected to take off from the Toms River Bridge at 9:30 am following a prayer, and the National Anthem. A fleet of nearly two thousand boats draped with American flags and Thin Blue Line flags are expected to span up to 10 miles of New Jersey’s water ways. And do not forget about the Trump flags. miles, and miles of Trump flags. Do not have a boat? The parade will pass by, (or under) three major bridges. (Mantoloking, Seaside Heights, and Manahawkin). Each bridge, during the last parade, had an estimate of 500-600 people on them. More are expected this time around. So, grab a flag or sign and join the movement. The parade will end in Beach Haven where a crowd north of 1000 are expected to celebrate and most likely enjoy a meal indoors, as New Jerseys’ Governor Murphy’s’ ban on indoor dining, which is set to be lifted this Friday. https://gibson68w.wordpress.com/2020/09/03/massive-toms-river-pro-law-enforcement-pro-veteran-boat-parade-set-to-break-world-record/

Just wait, here comes the executive order banning boat parades and indoor dining in Beach Haven on Saturday.

I think that most of us realize commemorative firearms aren’t the instant collectible that some people feel they are. In fact, often times the commemorative firearms sell for less than the non-commemorative counterparts – if there is one. Not always true, but if you choose wisely you can end up with a fancy shooter, or a gun that actually does appreciate faster than its non-commemorative counterparts. I crossed the line from being just a purchaser and user of firearms to being a collector in the early part of last year. I came to that realization when I found myself buying guns that I just liked, but had little to no intention of ever shooting, and I’ve been making up for lost time ever since. My first commemorative was purchased solely as a shooter and because the price was more than right. It was a Texas Wagon Train / Texas Sesquicentennial commemorative – a 5” N-frame in .44-40. I like N-frames, especially those with 5” barrels and like calibers that start with a “4”. I got this gun for a song and it was the gun only, no nifty presentation case. It had terrific stocks on it, which I promptly removed and replaced with a Hogue wooden monogrip. I did shoot it some, but it ultimately ended up back in the safe. When I made the transition to collector, I reinstalled the presentation stocks and found the correct case on the Internet. Even piecing it together like that I’m in it for about half of the current going rate. Here it is… My next commemorative purchase was a PASP Model 19-4 – not because I had any affiliation with the PASP (except for a handful of speeding tickets), but because the price was better than I could find on a 4” non-commemorative 19-4. I could keep it as a shooter or as a bargain collectible. Here it is… Somewhere along the way I became enamored with the Heritage series of guns. I purchased several of the Lew Horton Heritage Series, but then found one that was made for Sports South. It did not come in the correct PC aluminum case – instead, it was shipped in a presentation case meant for another firearm – a 1988 Model 629-1 Iditarod Commemorative. I started doing some research on that issue and found that while the case, and even the barrel, said that 1000 of these guns were made, in actuality, the bank failed before the entire thousand gun contract was completed. In fact only 545 of these were made. I endeavored to find a gun only to go with the case that serendipitously came to me. When it rains it pours – I didn’t find a lone gun sans case, I found two consecutively numbered guns that came with everything – cases, boxes, docs, tools, everything. Again they were at a price about equivalent to what you would pay for a regular 629-1. So now I have two complete commemoratives and one extra presentation case. The next commemorative came as a result of me exploring a major auction company. In my perusal of various on-line “for sale” and auction sites I had come across an Elmer Keith 29-3 commemorative. This was one of the regular issue ones with the wooden stocks and it was “spendy” – not outrageously so, considering the embellishments and who it honored. I was sorely tempted. A little further on in the listings I came across another Keith commemorative from the same vendor, only this was one of the Deluxe Additions (the first 100 of the 2500 made that had increased gold embellishments plus real, pre-ban, elephant ivory stocks. Pretty much as the SCSW IV states, they wanted double the amount they were asking for the standard edition. That was too rich for my blood. So I was looking through the catalog of the major upcoming auction and they actually had three Elmer Keith editions – two standards and one deluxe sandwiched between the two. Somebody at that auction company goofed as they all had the same auction estimates. I put in an absentee bid at $100 over the high estimate for the deluxe version. I was watching the auction streaming on my computer. The first standard version came up and got hammered at $100 over high estimate. At that point I figured I was toast – somebody out there had to realize that the deluxe version was worth considerably more than the standard that had just fetched a good price. The deluxe version came up and stalled and then got hammered at the high estimate – which meant that I had won it for $100 less than the standard version. I was ecstatic. Full disclaimer, this was the gun only and did not have the original presentation case with it – it had gone missing in the intervening 35 years. Not to worry, I found a woodworker who specializes in presentation cases – at more than fair prices. We went back and forth on wood types, lining colors, descriptive plaques etc and he is currently in the process of building a fantastically figured, French-fitted, walnut presentation case with a proper descriptive brass plate on the lid. Even with the auction buyer’s premium, the next day air shipping and the bespoke presentation case, I am into this gun for less than half its value. Here is the gun, a 4” Model 29-3, .44 Magnum (as is befitting of the father of the .44 Magnum. I’ll feature the gun and case in a future thread, once I receive the case – if anyone is in need of a presentation case I would be more than happy to put you in touch with this fellow. This brings us to the current week (w/o 8/30). Frustrated by missing a two gun lot at the large auction company’s August sale, I was looking for something to buy. Much searching brought me to a S&W 150th Anniversary Commemorative Model 29-8, .44 Magnum (1852 – 2002). Like the Elmer Keith gun, this one had gold embellishment, including portraits of Horace Smith and Daniel Wesson on the side plate. It was equipped with smooth Herrett (now out of business) stocks and came in a clear-topped, French-fitted presentation case. The funds for that gun are currently at the mercy of the USPS. Here is the seller’s picture of the gun and case… The acquisition of the 150th anniversary gun triggered a desire to acquire the previous anniversary issue, the issue for their 125th anniversary. I had passed on opportunities to purchase this gun many time is the past when I was shopping for “shooters”. Who wanted a .45 Colt with a short cylinder? The Model 25-3, while chambered for .45 Colt used a cylinder with the same length dimension as the .45 ACP Model 25-2. This meant that a lot of traditional, cast 250 grain bullet loads would be too long for the cylinder, unless crimped over the front driving band, rather than, properly, in the crimp groove. Now it was destined to be a safe queen and a complement to the 150th anniversary gun. I went in search of a candidate. Found one, but missed it because I was trying to leverage a better deal. Found another and got it for an even better price. I make this sound like these are out there everywhere – such is not the case. Yes you can find them aplenty, but at exorbitant cost. The really neat thing – and it was totally happenstance, neither the seller nor I realized it (he still doesn’t) at the time of the transaction – is the serial number, First, it is the only time that I have ever seen a non-numeric or alphabetic character used in a serial number – the serial prefix for these guns is “S&W” followed by four numeric characters (these were appx four years before Smith went to their current three alpha / four numeric serial format). This gun was the twelfth gun made of the run of 9,948 standard editions (there were 50 Deluxe Editions and 2 Custom Deluxe Editions). These came with a presentation case that also held a commemorative coin and a book by Roy Jinks – the company historian, called 125 years with Smith and Wesson. The gun has custom gold-filled roll marks but not the fancy gold embellishments found on the Keith gun or the 150th anniversary gun. Here is the seller’s picture of the gun and case. Funds for this one were mailed this morning. I will be applying for a Multiple Purchase Exemption for the Keith gun and the two anniversary guns. Given the times we’re living in, I have no idea how long that will take, but if I do it within the OGAM framework, it would be mid-December before I had them all. If you have managed to make it through this entire magnum opus, kudos to you. I hope you came away with an appreciation and better understanding of commemorative guns. Adios, Pizza Bob

My daughter, who plays soccer pretty much every day, swears by it. It does tend to fall off when one sweats a lot.

Compose a FOIA request to our BFF Mr. Grewal?: https://www.nfoic.org/organizations/state-foi-resource/new-jersey-foi-resources

Do you warm it in your crock pot before putting it on?

Man up, drink some coffee and go about your day already.

I have all of these paints if you want to try them. I have all the cool colors and the glow in the dark paint. You are welcome to them if you return them.

@Malice4you I just wrote an article for CNJFO and part of the story had to do with the NJ ban on adjustable stocks actually causing MORE instead of LESS guns in the public's hands! Because "gun fit" is important to effective gun handling and SAFETY! The story just happens to cover Sandy Muldoon & Shari Spivack, the two instructors giving the class at Easton that @W2MC posted about! I wore a hat at last Sunday's class too, that of an Expert Panelist along with Spivack. Here's the story: https://www.cnjfo.com/news/9207290 Here's the paragraph the adjustable stocks are mentioned: "Muldoon was elated to inform green card holding immigrants present that they too can apply for & receive firearm purchase permits. Spivack and Muldoon are petite in stature and spoke about "EVIL" adjustable stocks on the AR-15 platform and how inconvenient and stupid NJ gun law is regarding what most consider a likeable feature that actually enhances safety so shooters with short AND longer arms can get a proper fit with a single rifle. NJ law backfires, doubling-down on "the stupid" by causing families to purchase multiple copies of the same gun so everyone in the family gets a proper fit. So much for "getting guns off the streets", lol!"

I recently purchased a Sig P320 X5 Legion at the beginning of the month and really like the way the gun shoots. I was looking for a Sig P320 full sized grip module to see how the gun handles with the lighter grip module. I found a Wilson Combat P320 grip module for $59 at Osage County Guns and bought that along with 2 Sig SRT kits for my P229 and P227. The grip module is awesome and the gun feels great with the Wilson grip. I shot 50rds through it on Saturday and I may be keeping it in the Wilson grip for quite a while. I highly recommend these grips. Here is a pic:

Nicest stock I have seen in awhile!! https://imgur.com/a/FEjckKG

03 a3???? post a pic of the receiver

For the light I like the Streamlight TLR-6. I went with that over the SIG branded light after watching a couple of comparison videos. Holster, I like Vedder LightTuck Kydex.

I believe that it's optional, but it can help speed things up if there is somebody with similar name that is prohibited. Besides you're supplying it to a government entity.....what could possibly go wrong? Adios, Pizza Bob

I have the Streamlight TLR 7A flex and Olight PL2 Mini Valkyrie I am a SF guy, by their XC1 offering leaves a lot to be desired. I really like the TLR7A.

Next time Michelle is dancing on Ellen, "she" should use some of that KT Tape stuff @Zeke likes to tape "her" junk to "her" leg.

no, it's more like how GM trucks are "professional grade"

Corn pop beat up @AlDente67 ?

What happened " Let me guess " You were standing in the door way with your census worker clipboard, And your make every vote count hat on. Did I mention it was in the seedy part of town. When Corn pop spotted the Pepperoni hot pocket on your clipboard, He bum rushed you you fell back on your arm. You dropped the keys to your $60k SUV and the hot pocket. And you where stunned and in shock and heard calling out for a Medic. Just kidding GWS

I had posterior tibial tendon dysfunction a couple months ago; basically I strained/sprained the tendon that runs along the inside of your leg and wraps around the bottom of your foot. KT tape worked wonders to support the area until the tendon healed.

Yes they cannot find it. That's why the one guy said give me a few days or I'll just make you one. It seems silly change of address or replacement takes the same path as initial. Actually the entire thing is just stupid.

A placebo effect, maybe?

Never heard either. But I like that it comes in pretty colors.

It’s called technology cave man!

This, or beer depending on time of day and severity of pain.

Did you get your background check part finished from the state? Any emails regarding that? You confirmed your references submitted and it confirmed via FARS right? Any range that requires a FID is most likely for liability purposes for insurance. Is it a public range or private? There have been lawsuits, but it's come back with "the 30 day law is really just a suggestion and doesn't actually have to be followed". The actual legal case was Adler v Livak - back in 1998. https://njgunpermitattorney.com/2009/04/23/when-is-30-days-not-30-days

This is an old story that runs in an endless loop. The majority politicians entrenched in Trenton don't care about logic, facts or statistics. They hate the concept of armed civilians and until they're removed from office they will do their best to keep civilians from acquiring, possessing and especially using firearms for lawful purposes. And the courts in NJ are completely on the side of government. That's why the '30 day cap' is an illusion. So don't waste your money here. at least not arguing with Trenton. Spend it to oust the appropriate people, or at the national level to avoid really damaging federal legislation that will hamstring every state. Well, at least hamstring those who feel obligated to comply.

Overpressure ammo is going to shorten the service life of any barrel. And if the barrel is already nearing EOL then it may end spectacularly plus you have the issue of plastically deforming the cases in the chamber so they won’t spring back for extraction. If your chamber is in the middle of tolerance you might get lucky tho both of these would apply to both pistol or carbine, unless the rifle has significantly different locking system just doesn’t seem like there’s much to be gained here...if you have a ton of this mystery ammo you can afford to test it and shake out the gun, thus killing your barrel. If you only have a little you can’t test how well it will run.

Is that with the solvent based ones that list a glow time? The water based ones don't even provide a duration. http://glow.glowinc.com/solvent-glow-in-the-dark-paint/ultra-green-v10-solvent-based-glow-in-the-dark-paint/ I wonder if this would be good?

Jackdawack, I used that same product on several of my handguns. Even after exposing it to bright light for a while, the "glow" dimmed in a few minutes at best. Ended up with the Dawson f/o front sights (too cheap to get the truglo TFX).

kt tape plus a tens unit has been a godsend for curing some of the supposed old-age related things that have happened to me. not that I'd know because I refuse to get old.

From $300 down to $180....Not a bad price!

They're on sale this weekend. Code: LABOR40

Federal law is exactly the same. And the ATF isn't kicking down doors.

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While I believe this is a valid concern, I don't think there is a single person on this forum, or even in the state, who can answer this. It will come down to a prosecutor, your lawyer, and a judge to determine what any of that means.

My concern with these non-NFA other firearms is that if you have one (built or bought) and also have a regular AR rifle you can be jammed up. From the statutes: 2C:39-1 w. "Assault firearm" means: [...] (5) A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault firearm, or any combination of parts from which an assault firearm may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person. If you have a rifle and a non-NFA other firearm with a barrel less than 16 inches you can readily switch the uppers and now you have an SBR and an overweight pistol. If I was going to put together a non-NFA other firearm I would use a dedicated pistol caliber lower which could not mate to a regular AR upper.

That's impressive. I'm sure Jerry has no problem with any firearm. Would love to see him visit Hickock45 and both shoot together.

I had a similar experience the first time my wife and youngest daughter picked up my rifle.

Didn’t I just see an ad for basic pistol in Easton this month? Safe practices and safe handling are more important than ever, especially if you're one of America's millions of first-time firearms owners. It can be overwhelming, and you probably have a lot of questions. Our certified instructor will address your concerns and help alleviate some of the stress that comes with the responsibility of being a first-time firearm owner by giving you the confidence to handle your firearm safely. •Rules of firearm safety •Types of handguns •Parts of a handgun •How a handgun works •Safe handgun handling •Basic handgun skills; proper grip, sight alignment, trigger control •Basic fundamentals of shooting •How to safely store your handgun And more... Seating is limited! Call us at 856.232.4867 to pre-pay Saturday, September 5, 2020 10AM-NOON $60 pp + tax *classroom-only #handgun #handgunsafety #gunownerscare #nssf #newshooters #firearmsafety #nationalshootingsportsmonth #nssm

One ex shot my P226 quite well, another ex preferred my 1911. Both universally disliked the large target grips of my S&W 22A. Gun fit and manipulation are a major issue for some women, no matter if it is a long gun or a handgun. We often forget that fit can be a huge thing for a new shooter who is physically very different from us. I watched a new-to-.223 tween at the bench next to me Sunday and kept thinking she would be better off if that stock could just be adjusted to fit her better (thanks NJ...). Before I have someone shoot a gun, i always ensure they are capable of rendering a gun safe. Some guns seem harder to lock the slide open than other guns for some women. It could be design or layout of the gun, strength of springs, strength of the shooter, or a combination of those issues. Weight can be both a good and bad thing - recoil absorbsion is great, but weight can also be tiring. For a new shooter, i typically always start with single rounds of .22 in a rifle and work up to bigger rifles. Once I have someone reasonably comfortable with rifles, then move to handguns, again with a single round at first. Depending on the person, it will typically be a Sig Mosquito .22 or Sig P226 9mm. From there, I may have them shoot other 9mm, .40, or .45 handguns as their comfort and skills dictate.

Porkroll or Taylor ham? and welcome here

As a life-long leftie I think I can provide some insight....but truthfully, it depends on what you want, and what you intend to do with your handgun. I'm predominantly a revolver person; and the design of a revolver is inherently left-hand friendly. Your left hand's index finger is already right there to work the cylinder latch. Use your right thumb to push the cylinder out of the frame, cradle the revolver in your right hand, and load the cylinder with your left. Very easy. Most pistol grips are equally fine for left/right handers, the hand-specific ones are primarily high-grade target pistols, which you really aren't looking for, anyway. The primary concerns for left-handed operation are the safety, slide release, and magazine release of the semi-auto. We can use the 1911 as a 'for instance', since I am more familiar with them. The 1911-style mag release is near perfect for a leftie (just reach back with your trigger finger). The slide release isn't so convenient, but its also very easy to just pull-back on the slide to release (once you've reloaded). The safety, though, is nearly impossible to operate without changing your hold on the pistol or adding an ambidexterus safety, which puts a second lever on the opposite side of the pistol. Another thought is the purpose behind your pistol....what do you plan to do with it? If this is going to be primarily shot at the range, punching paper, and a learning tool for better pistol handling...left or right handed really doesn't matter much. You simply aren't going to be using the safety; you're going to load, fire, and empty the pistol, then drop the magazine and repeat. In this situation, YOU are the 'safety'....keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire! If its going to be a concealed carry piece; the placement of the safety DOES matter, but you'd probably be best to move out of NJ, as NJ Concealed Carry permits are like unicorns. You'll never see one. If you're looking for a 'game' pistol (there are many different competition disciplines), you are better looking into what is their specific requirements and go from there. There are also many semi-auto pistols that have dropped the safeties in favor of a long, revolver-like trigger. These are also very leftie-friendly, and worthy of your consideration. I'll pass on recommending any, as I have limited knowledge of these.

Congrats! She's butt-ugly, but she will get the job done.