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Was that shawn?

Herters 9 is typically re-branded S&B, very good ammo.

I sure hope so!!!!!!

Don't bother, dont waste your time.....*everything* is an argument I often find that those that think they are the smartest people in the room, usually are far from it. Your stance on reloading is spot on..... Casted, sized, lubed, loaded 750 rounds of 147gr 9mm this past weekend... i think the totality of time was like, dunno 4 hrs... plus/minus I don't worry about going to the range to shoot having fun and practicing...why? I reload and have ammo I learn more about ballistics and nuances about each gun i shoot.... why? I reload....and learn I know what's most accurate in some of my favorite rifles.... why? I reload...and tweak the round, sometimes to the .x grain

Jus once again. Gotta say i nailed it huge. Biggly. Learn to reload. !!!!! Im still in at 13 cents a round for 9mm. 223 @ 17 cents 308 sierra hpbt around 23 cents. Same for 6.5 c. Huge learning lesson for y’all. Be well.

BINGO! Ammo and components are never getting cheaper. Even when I was overpaying post Sandyhook, I think 48cpr was the most I paid for M855, I knew the price of M855 will eventually be more than that in "normal" times. 48cpr seems cheap right about now. The only regret I have is buying M855, that stuff is crap.

I just found 3000 CCI Large Pistol Magnum Primers that I am trading 209 Primers for. The deal is 4K 209 primers for the CCI primers. Fair trade in my opinion. I have 1000's of 209 primers.

Factory what? Cheap plinking? I load match grade bullets, at match level tolerances.. how much does that ammo cost on a normal day?

Your pricing is based on recent costs. I have thousands of primers and bullets from 15 years ago that were way cheaper. 5.56 55g and 62g were really cheap years ago. I think the cpr is dependent on when the components were purchased.

And a bonus- those tiny boxes let you pack a lot in the cans

Like others, the time I spend on reloading is off the clock time that many/most other people use for watching TV or surfing the web. Instead, I sit at the reloading bench with a movie or TV show playing on a tablet and I make ammo. When I'm working from home I sometimes leverage a coffee break as well. For example, I needed to get some 9mm brass cleaned, so on my way upstairs for coffee I loaded 2 tumblers with brass and steel pins. That took about a minute. While upstairs I filled the tumblers with water, Dawn soap, and lem-shine, AND filled my coffee. Another minute. Went back downstairs towards my office and detoured to put the tumblers on the spinning machine adn turned it on. MAYBE 20 seconds. The cases will tumble for a few (or more) hours until I have time to turn them off, rinse, and drain. I let my cases air dry for a few days so this process is again only a few minutes. Once you understand what reloading is about and develop a system, you don't have to sink large chunks of billable hours to it.

If you want to start a thread, many of us can help with not just basic questions, but some more advanced topics as well. With a number of us reloading on here, we probably all have used a number of different products that make reloading a relatively easy task.

I have a lot of cases of factory ammo stored, but I only shoot my reloads (centerfire handgun). When figuring labor costs you don't get paid while watching TV or surfing the web. I reload during times that are not billable, my time off. It is relaxing and I am still shooting 300 to 400 rds per week on average. All reloads. I reload 45ACP, 44mag, 44spl, 38sp, 357mag, 45 Colt, 500 S&W and 9mm cases more times than you would think possible. It does save loads of money and still allows me to shoot as much as I want. With my Dillon presses I can reload 400 per hour easy. Rifle takes a lot more prep, but I don't shoot rifle in the quantity than I do handgun.

Factoring time as cost for a hobby is a fools errand. That's like saying riding a bike cost a person $x.xx per hour.

Price is high but it's available... https://www.rogerssportinggoods.com/Ammunition/Pistol-Ammunition

Pm me if you need help to figure out reloading. Im more than happy to help my brother shooter

I agree, I load a lot of XTP handgun loads. Pre-pandemic cost is $1/rd for those. Mine are tailored to my needs and are very accurate. I know and control the velocity, etc. This year I am handgun hunting with hand loads.

I sure hope they do. And if they do I'll be buying. But I'm not counting on that one little bit. No matter what the result of the election is, I foresee the current supply situation getting much worse. Not better. For both firearms and ammunition.

I ordered shotgun ammo from them back in August (might have seen the link here), no problems.

Personally I have not but my friend has - showed up at his door with no issues. NJ residents do need to send FID info - it's in their FAQs.

I wouldn't buy at todays prices.

How about factoring the cost to replace the components at todays prices.

so that's not a fair determinant then. What was ammo costs 15-20yrs ago when started doing this. I have so much ammo stashed away I'm pulling 20rd boxes of winchester white labeled at 1.99! Does that mean I'm shooting for 10cents a round as my baseline? c'mon let's compare apples to apples no doubt reloading is cheaper but your baseline costs are closing in 2 decades of pricing obsoletism

agree

Another long term reloader here — 30 years I have never considered my time at the reloading bench as $$$ per hour — it’s free time, relaxing time, my time to do as I choose I learned from Sandy Hook, never to be without components

Most people, including myself, can see the benefits of shooting cheap plinking ammo. On the other hand, its not entirely comparable when the rounds you produce are match quality. Even a progressive press can put out better consistency than factory ammo. I've really taken to rifle loading this past year, its challenging and a little time consumer but the results are fantastic. I actually feel like I have a purpose when I go to the range other than burning a hole in my pocket.

# is pounds. I'd only sell it face to face because nobody would be willing to pay the price I'd want to go through the hassle of shipping.

That's damn fine pork roll.

Good rifle ammo takes time to reload, but for my needs I don’t load a lot of precision ammo on a single stage press, and I can crank out plinking ammo on my progressive press pretty fast. I load a lot of handgun ammo. Most of my reloading gear is 20-30 years old, so amortizing the cost would add only insignificant decimal dust to the cost of a reloaded round. Cost of the gear is significant if you stop loading in a year or two, but it’s insignificant over the long haul, and resale value on presses is very good. It’s mostly Dillon gear, with a lifetime guarantee, so I have no repair costs. Tumbling takes a minute to start, three minutes to stop, and I’m doing something else the rest of the time. As for the actual loading, a Dillon 550 is rated for 550 rounds an hour-and that’s the second slowest press Dillon makes. I find they cruise at 400 rounds an hour, once you account for loading primer tubes, and periodically weighing powder charges and measuring case dimensions. So it takes me 7 1/2 minutes to load a box of 50, and having tuned the loads to my guns, the ammo is far more accurate than factory loads. And it’s hobby time, it’s not like anyone takes time away from a paying job to reload.

Sop here. This forum is typically the least responsive, slowest and downright aggravating to me. Could be my home support system but almost all others sites I visit work in real time. Oh well.

while I'm sitting on enough, I do plan on reloading over the next year. Something I've been wanting to do for a while but buying 1k 5.56 at 235 and 1k 9mm at 140 a case was a no brainer. I just need to purchase a whole set up for 9, 556, 308, 38/357

I'd rather spend my time reloading over hours spent bitching and complaing on the internet. Its a time consuming hobby like most others, there is an initial investment phase, and pay off phase. I started reloading at the age of 25, and I've already paid off those investments of you compare today's prices to what I've loaded in just the past 6 months. Almost all of my big purchases also came with rebates for free bullets. Both my presses came with 5 boxes of high end boolits. Thats 200 off, and each die set is an additional 20 bucks in bullets. Gotta love Hornady.. and its not like they are enticing you to buy bad products, there stuff works great.

You know the answer. You tell me. Tell me how to pro rate thousands and thousands of rounds to get a per cents price to get to that price. Put that drink down. Its almost midnight.

Phrasing.

Not that i know of at near normal prices. Check gb if you really need them. Im thinking minimal of march before availability or prices start lowering

Saw that on TikTok a few days ago. Funniest thing was where they put kamalas face on her.

When you say steel, are you mistaking Nickel plated for steel I’ve never seen steel cases in the calibers you state.

I was tempted but I found a complete upper on here for sale that I am gonna get.

I put the dispute in before I found it it was just a phone service problem. It was a little unnerving having paid in full and then upon calling, getting a message saying the number had been disconnected... I withdrew the dispute once I saw it was merely a phone problem and they didn't skip town.

Heck, I'd sell some of my factory stock for $1 per round.

I know this is gonna piss a lot of people off... I don’t buy from CTD, but I don’t disparage them for rasing their prices. Some people call it ‘price gouging’. I call it capitalism. Ultimately, capitalism is self correcting. Don’t like the price? Shop around, someone else usually has it cheaper. That being said, I’m surprised that they are still in business. Most of the gear they sell is utter crap.

Yeeeeeaaaah Buddy!!! Anyone that buys 6 lbs if Pork Roll - Case, Trenton, Taylor’s, whatever - is a person of taste and a damn fine American! Anyone that gifts someone 6 lbs of Pork Roll is, as my buddy Drew says, “Bro as Fuck!”.

Recommend you email the Captain or anyone else you can get from the Township website. Or write a letter, easy to do and likely to get a call back. I hate voicemail.

I feel no sadness for gun owners who need ammo and were already gun owners in 2013. We all knew the days of 9mm for $180/1000 and .223 for $275/1000 were temporary. I DO have some sympathy for new shooters. If they're close to me, we can spend some range time from my stash.

Check multiple sources, but handgunlaw.us is always the most up to date. They had the Pennsylvania/Utah update before the PA State police knew, before it was published ANYWHERE, and before it could be confirmed with THE AGs OFFICE that had no idea they changed it. I asked him to confirm it, I should have asked how he got the info.