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I scored this... and this... Adios, Pizza Bob

As a fellow veteran, I try to avoid calling out any veteran. I also was in the Army for 6 years, belong to the American Legion, am friends with many police officers, and have NEVER ONCE heard a veteran call a MAGAZINE a CLIP. What military were you in?

I see you caught that as well.

Wasn't sure if this should be merged with the recent ANJRPC CCW lawsuit thread... https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/fpc-saf-nj2as-file-new-lawsuit-challenging-new-jersey-handgun-carry-ban/ Snippet: From the Firearms Policy Coalition: Today, Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC), Second Amendment Foundation (SAF), and New Jersey Second Amendment Society (NJ2AS) announced the filing of a new federal lawsuit challenging the State of New Jersey’s laws that prevent individuals from carrying a loaded handgun outside of the home for self-defense. This new lawsuit challenges New Jersey’s criminal statutory scheme as it relates to carrying loaded, operable handguns outside of the home without a permit as well as the State’s regulatory scheme as it relates to applications for and issuance of carry permits. The case, Bennett v. Davis, can be viewed at FPCLegal.org. New Jersey law makes it a crime for a law-abiding individual to carry a loaded handgun outside of the home unless they have been issued a permit to carry a handgun, thus denying them their right to bear arms. Worse, State law prevents them from obtaining such a permit because of further unconstitutional requirements, such as the demonstration of “justifiable need”, among others. New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy has previously said that “private citizens should not be able to carry weapons based on mere generalized fear.” However, say the plaintiffs, the Supreme Court’s precedents take that policy choice off the table, and the Constitution itself provides the only justification necessary for law-abiding adults to exercise their fundamental, individual right to bear arms. “This case is fundamentally a simple but important one,” said attorney for the plaintiffs, Raymond DiGuiseppe. “In New Jersey today, the right to carry loaded handguns in public for all lawful purposes, including self defense, is completely denied to law-abiding people, like and including our clients. But the U.S. Supreme Court has held that such bans are categorically unconstitutional. We look forward to vindicating the rights of our clients and forcing New Jersey to respect the Constitution.” More at link.

You might want to get a 22 of some kind. Everyone should have a 22 revolver (double action) of some kind and a Ruger Mark of some variation (or a Buckmark).. Or, perhaps just get a second copy of your first gun (one for upstairs and one for downstairs). It may be impossible to find, but I would checkout a CZ, Smith & Wesson M&P, or a Beretta, or Glock. Sniper's suggestion to get an AR9 sounds like an additional plan. I would stick to a 9mm pistol of some kind. As far as rifles and shotguns... AR, Ruger 10/22, Mossberg 500, Remington 870...

Adding: As a new gun owner who is already talking about a rifle and second handgun your first priority will need to be an extension on your house for the firearms you’ll eventually get.

Thanks everyone for coming out today. The weather held off for the most part! I had the video camera going - I may have to put it on top of the car next time for a better view! If anyone doesn't want to be in the video, let me know - I left it as unlisted but you all can view it. I will remove and edit if necessary. It's just mostly clipped shooting footage. Didn't feel like getting fancy.

Just did. Springfield Armory Mil-Spec 1911 for less $ than I would've expected.

@Krdshrk Nick, Thanks for setting up again, Good day out, weather held off just long enough. Good seeing members I knew and meeting new ones. Day out shooting with friends is always a good day!

Greetings! With all the hype and wife's encouragement to get some home protection, and after few months for paperwork, I finally got my first gun (Rex Zero 1). I've tried Glocks as a very popular choice for first buyers but Rex felt was better for me. Now, after a few range sessions and hours spent on this site among others I'm getting a feel for gun ownership and improving my skills. Questions are constantly popping up and even with Google's help I believe forums are always a good place to get good answers. So I've decided to get onboard and register. (free account for now, sorry admins, I'll consider premium membership at some point) A couple of observations and questions from a completely new to this hobby vantage point... (if anyone cares): WTF is with 10 mag limit? After my mags were pinned, it's almost impossible, even with a loader device, to get all 10 rounds into the mag. I've ordered oem 10 mags online and still waiting. - they didn't ask for FID copy so I assume it is legal to purchase 10 round mags online and ship to home address? I also thinking about buying a rifle, and based on suggestions and some online research I'm thinking about Modern Materiel Patrol AR. Unfortunately, getting my hands on one is almost as impossible as getting toilet paper back in spring. Does anyone have any shop suggestions that might carry MM ARs? Do you know if their shop in Keyport usually have them stocked? Should I consider another option and why? Concerning ammo, - I've had a good experience with www.ammoshoponline.com - Shipping (tom my door) was pretty fast. I got 9mm Luger (Norma) for around ~ .50c per round. This is much cheaper compared to what I've paid at my range. Training - I've registered to NRA Basic Pistol Shooting course and I hope it will help improving my skills and safety. Looks like several members on this forum gave a very positive feedback, - looking forward to it. Also, already started thinking about second handgun since my purchase permit will be expiring in December. Any recommendations on second handgun? I guess I should stick with the same caliber but I'm not sure if I want to go with compact or try something different like revolver? Finally, I find gun ownership to be a very personal, (and expensive) hobby and ultimately rewarding experience. My goal is to get to a satisfying point in terms of shooting skills, even though I realize how long does it take to climb from newbie's level. ))

NJ Governor Only Hears One Side Of Gun Debate Posted at 2:00 pm on November 2, 2020 by Tom Knighton New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy isn’t a fan of your gun rights. Of course, for most of us, that’s not really a big thing for us. After all, we don’t live in New Jersey, thankfully, so his opinion of our gun rights doesn’t have much impact on us. For those who live in New Jersey, though, it has a big impact. Yuge impact. And yet, it seems that Murphy is only looking for one side of the debate. Through documents AmmoLand obtained through Freedom of Information Request W163771 I learned there were 13 known “special” meetings from February 13, 2018 to March 13, 2020. These meetings varied in “title”, switching names from “Roundtables” to “Town Hall Meetings” to “Exciting Announcements”, so on and so forth (the full list of which I will include at the end of this article). What was special about some of these meetings? Eight of the 13 meetings specifically mention firearms. All of these meetings had notices communicated to members of anti-civil rights groups looking to strip citizens of their 2nd Amendment freedoms. One such lucky correspondent was The Reverend Robert “Bob” Moore ([email protected]), from The Coalition For Peace Action (CFPA, peacecoalition.org) and Ceasefire New Jersey (www.peacecoalition.org/campaigns/68-ceasefire-nj/628-ceasefire-nj.html) . The first such recorded meeting was a roundtable on “gun violence.” Scheduled to be in attendance was NJ Assembly Majority Leader Lou Greenwald. Both CFPA and Ceasefire New Jersey are groups against the individual’s right to keep and bear arms. Dolores Phillips, the Legislative Director of Ceasefire New Jersey was copied into Bob’s email to Hilary Beckett (Then an Aide to the Governor, Intergovernmental Affairs, [email protected]), when accepting his invitation to attend the February 13, 2018 meeting. … I can tell you who was not invited to this meeting… I reached out to several civil-rights oriented organizations that safeguard the Second Amendment: The Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs, The Coalition of New Jersey Firearm Owners, The New Jersey Second Amendment Society, A representative of the National Rifle Association’s Institute for Legislative Action, and The National Shooting Sports Foundation. I sent them the full list of dates and events*** as listed at the end of this article and asked them if they were invited to participate in any of these “discussions” that Governor Phil Murphy’s administration had concerning firearms, “gun violence”, gun safety, etc. In other words, Murphy didn’t bother to include anyone from the gun rights side of the debate. He went to biased sources, got their take on guns and gun laws, then followed it. This is essentially Murphy’s confirmation bias playing out before our very eyes. Now, I’m quite sure that the results would have been the same even if gun rights groups had been invited to speak with him. He would have gone with what he wanted to do in the first place, of course. All he would have done is look like he was trying to be fair. Instead, though, he’s blatant about his lack of concern for what gun rights advocates have to say about anything. Of course, that’s because gun rights advocates aren’t really a threat to him politically. He can ignore them with impunity, which is what every anti-gun governor does. They ignore gun rights supporters because there are no repercussions for doing so. If New Jersey gun owners want to take Murphy and those who follow him to task, they need to increase their numbers sufficiently until they’re a force that can’t be ignored. I sincerely hope they can, because Murphy needs to be brought down a peg or 12. https://bearingarms.com/tomk/2020/11/02/one-side-of-gun-debate/?utm_source=badaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&bcid=bc1d86e1053dd21c60a121534def959c Murphy Callahan.pdf

I forgot I had these video clips, I took them while working new construction at Great Adventure . These clips are two or three years old , At the time the cubs were 1 one year old. Its a fluke to see them when the parks not open. I don't think I posted them before. IMG_1393.m4v IMG_1391.m4v IMG_1390.m4v

Where have I or anyone else said training was a bad idea? The whole discussion pointed out to you was forcing it to be Mandatory, and who decides what that training should be. The fact that you would seem to be OK with paying for a "Right" is very telling. For starters, you know what happens when you assume, right? But, I'll play along with your assumptions, since you can't see to find any evidence to support your claim. I would assume that the numbers definitely lean towards pro gun owners. Republicans, the majority of independents and even some Democrats believe in same gun ownership beliefs(just look at the number of Dems that have bought firearms this year). So, if you'd post some data, you'd find that. I'd go get it, but I'm not doing the work for you. It just seems that the curtain keeps being pulled back, little by little, on him.

Thank you for your service - your training doctrine needs updating. You used magazines, this is a clip.

Growing up in a military family, I'd get beating raw calling it a clip. United States Air Force Auxiliary perhaps. You know, flies on the weekends in good weather looking for lost hikers.

and the NRA is "conspicuous by their absence"

Also from North Jersey. Don't ever try the Walmart in Riverdale, they never have them, you need to go to Walmart Boonton

@brucin posted over the weekend that the Walmart in Boonton had them in stock. I've no idea if that is still the case.

@USRifle30Cal EXACTLY! And if you think the BATF&E just hang-out having coffee & donuts waiting for this guy to drive up to the Cop Shop, I got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale, lol! He was being WATCHED and had a Plan-B. Of course we'll never know the REAL truth, as both sides would have to tip their poker hands. Meanwhile, folks with more emotions than facts get to say all their "what-ifs" on a forum. At the end of the day, this guy is going to be the poster child of what not to do. Just like the machinist that built his own AR where he worked at across from the NJSP barracks and then walked it across the street for "Show & Tell" to ask how to register it... ~R

Good to know (and thanks)! If I can get the training question answered I will definitely apply.

It looks like supply is starting to catch up. The local ACE Hardware close to me was fully stocked with 9mm handguns, ammo was full, and they had some primers in stock (SPP, LPP). Georgia Arms is selling online again, they were shutdown due to lack of primers. I just received a load of bullets from Missouri Bullet Company and my order of 4000 bullets from IbejiHeads has shipped. The bullet orders took more than 2 months to be filled.

Ha... there's many times I wish I had a basement instead of a crawl space. Wait... what?? See my post above that states, "he who dies with the most toys, wins!". Do you how many drills and screw guns I own? That even holds true with 9. Squeeze 9 in and let it sit for a while. Later on you might be able to get the last one in.

I buy my fuel filters from my mechanic. I doubt he gets his from the Chicoms. I don't throw NJ gun owners under da Bus....but sometimes they do make me scratch my head some. I've used real cans that a friend paid real money for with tax stamps. Far superior to the crappy home made job in this video on this thread. In fact, he has one where ya don't even hear the .22LR round until it hits his steel target There's sumthin' missing from this story....the REAL truth. I think @USRifle30Cal's "Spidey Sense" is on-point. Rosey

It's bad news if you can squeeze an 11th round into a pinned mag, so folks doing the pinning tend to be conservative in their approach. That said, if you can get 10 rounds in and the leave the magazine sit for weeks, months, it sometimes makes it easier to load to full capacity in the future.

NJ is "safer" with a limit. lol FWIW prior to 2020 if I found 9 mm for under $0.20 a round I thought that was a good deal. The only real advantage to something compact is to be able to carry. Will you going any place where you will be able to carry on a regular basis?

I would not be so quick to state that as fact, since the ATF has stated it is not a destructive device; "ATF Publication 5300.11 Revised December 2007 SECTION III: Weapons Removed From The NFA As Collector's Items And Classified As Curios Or Relics Under The GCA The Bureau has determined that by reason of the date of their manufacture, value, design and other characteristics, the following firearms are primarily collector's items and are not likely to be used as weapons and, therefore, are excluded from the provisions of the National Firearms Act. Further, the Bureau has determined that such firearms are also Curios or Relics as defined in 27 CFR 478.11. Thus, licensed collectors may acquire, hold, or dispose to them as Curios or Relics subject to the provisions of 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44 and 27 CFR Part 478. They are still "firearms" as defined in 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44 ... German, model 1918, (WWI) anti-tank rifle (PzAgew 1918), cal. 13.25mm." This is on page 35 and page 36 of this document: https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/p-5300-11-firearms-curios-or-relics-listpdf/download?destination=file/2026/download @Dave Archibald the ammunition isn't readily available but if you have a lathe you can make the bullets from stock and the cases from .50BMG. See here: http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=3371

Guess these are the filters the guy was being charged for.

Another thought, since you already have 9mm, is to consider a pistol caliber carbine in 9mm, and share the ammo. There are a few AR9 platforms and similar carbines you might like. Tough question for anyone else to answer. That's like asking "what car should I buy". It depends on your use for it, and how it fits and how comfortable you feel with it. Will it be something your wife might shoot? It needs to fit her hand too. Sticking again with 9mm will share ammo inventory. Is it for home defense? Then plan on having quick access to it. This is true, and if you're not careful, can get addicting (and your wallet will take a hit)... One of my favorite sayings.. "He who dies with the most toys, wins!". Enjoy the hobby!

Any mag limit is ridiculous and should be unconstitutional. It is legal to have 10-round (or less) mags shipped to your house. For rifles: Something to consider would be to get an AR that doesn’t break the bank and spend the money on ammo and range time. I started with a S&W MP15 as it was fairly cheep and let me learn what I liked and didn’t. Then I built my own. welcome to the forum!

There are a few actors that when they go, they will be missed, Sean was one of them, may he RIP, When Clint Eastwood goes that will be something. Otherwise I have no respect for the majority of these privilaged a holes. Sean made some garbage watchable.

Bob and i are going to race for pink slips. My hellcat against his vette. That is a sweet pistol. Ohh. And chevy.

Original post updated. 22,9,38 and 45 sold out or SPF. I have a buddy with 9mm in south jersey if anyone interested I can give you his number. Exact count and pic of 5.56 still available updated. All other types updated amounts that are left. Also I thought I sold all my 32 ammo when I got rid of the gun a couple years ago but found 1 full box left. Added to original post. Thanks to all the buyers so far for making things easy to sell.

please note your 1884 does NOT have the round bayonet, it is just the cleaning rod.................Cheers

The question of "can you" is a question only you can answer as it addresses your skills. The question I imagine your asking is, is it legal to do it yourself. The short answer to this is, yes. But when you look into the logistics of doing so, if you possess all the components to put the firearm together before doing the pin and weld on the threaded barrel, possessing the threaded barrel violates NJ law

Reduction here prior to craigslist two step or other source Now - $1,400.00 Will meet down by 287 23 split for any that might be interested.

More so because of the Dem statements of defund the police and the looting be allowed to take place.

Yes that's why we can't have a bayonet lug either. All those drive by bayonetings.

You can send Walther CS an email. I had contacted them when my PPQ trigger return spring failed and they sent me a replacement with a spare (occurred at 12k rounds for those curious). Taking the PPQ apart is no more difficult than a Glock or any other striker fired gun. You should be able to do it with help from YouTube and a few punches as Stu already said.

get a pack of like 20 bits of the correct size. use one to drill the pocket in the barrel. snip the shank off just short enough to sit below the level on the brake you're pinning. weld the hole over. depending on how crafty you are, at least 2 brakes per bit that way.

They are a Destructive device. Your best bet is a Boys rifle converted to .50BMG

Please just buy a Smith.... stop with this euro trash.