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So . . . Do we like regulation when is helps us and only condemn it when it hurts us? It's shouldn't be up to the Texas AG to interfere in private transactions between citizens and legal businesses. It isn't "gouging" if the two parties agree on a price. Prices are set by supply and demand and shouldn't be held in place by those in the state house, congress or the White House.

Will do, but wanted to make a post so others here are alerted in case he contacted them in the same time frame and so it will get indexed for google searches on that email address.

meh, unless it's essentials, gov't shouldn't do this as the mkt corrects itself. If you are upset at their prices, shop elsewhere is what I say

yes, absolutely the mechanics don't change, just muscle memory through practice

"So the Government should give people food if they can't afford it? Who is going to pay to feed all these people? I'm not sure I follow your logic." Where have you been? The government DOES give people food . . . Not just people who can't afford it in fact! You live right here in Cherry Hill where there was a stink last year because the schools were going to give tuna fish sandwiches to the kids of parents who didn't pay their lunch bills.

eh.. I just want the government to leave me and everyone else alone.. I dont want them to "help me" LOL

As per the article, ammo is essential in the eyes of the Texas AG. And i'm not asking the government to step in to set prices. What I am saying is that CTD finally got what they deserve for years upon years of price gauging. I have not bought a single item from them since 2007 and never will again. The point is, they race prices on ammo, and other accessories, everytime there is a shortage. And they don't raise the prices by a little, they raises them by 300% or 400%. So in the eyes of Texas, what a wonderful state, ammo falls into the same category as food, water, and medicine.

Luckily they're modular. "I took it apart and sold the non-compliant parts out of state." So screw you, Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms Explosives Confusion Entrapment and Subjugation (BATFECES)

Forgive the completely newbie question. And thanks for any information. Would it be reasonable to learn to shoot with proficiency on a 22LR pistol and will those skill transfer readily when switching to a 9mm? Or would just starting out with a 9mm make the most sense? My goal is to become very proficient at hand guns. Basically starting from scratch. Will I learn proper technique, grip, sight picture, etc with the 9mm? Happily I can rent all sorts of hand guns at the ranges around me, but will eventually want to make a purchase. Thoughts?

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I joined this page many years ago, but never really was able to get involved in the Firearm community for a huge variety of reasons. About 2 months ago, my son and I got into shooting Archery, so I got him a beginner bow and I got a nice starter compound bow. We started going to Range 129 and Bob's Little Sport Shop to practice and I got the firearm bug again. Now that my kids are older, I have more time to explore. I recently applied for an FID card and once I get it, I'll purchase a 10/22 for my son and I to plink with. My ultimate goal is to get very proficient with a pistol, so I will take a couple of private lessons, and rent a few different pistols, and eventually make a purchase. I feel like I need to protect my family in these crazy times, but am completely disgusted with NJ Gun Laws. To the point where, once my kids are out of the public school system, we will likely move to a more 2A friendly state. Amazing how our 2nd Amendment rights are trampled on every day in this state. And SCOTUS won't help us at all. Sickening.

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Cheaper Than Dirt, that is. Texas AG just ordered CTD to refund it's customers over $400k for price gauging during the pandemic. We have all known CTD for being price gaugers for a long time. Looks like they finally got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Karma is a bitch!!! https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2020/12/16/gun-website-price-gouging-pandemic/3932523001/

Mine! Mine! All mine!!!

even if they're essential goods, the free market should have free reign to set prices as it sees fit. gotta take the (very small) bad with the (much greater) good.

I'll take it - assuming you don't mind an exchange sometime after Christmas?

Ad Absurdum - we all know that the right to keep and bar arms as codified and affirmed in the USCONN - is a God given right as such that is essential. We are not talking about whether the right of the people is essential or not - we know it is and not germane to the conversation. However, being that the 'arms' are a commodity - they are driven by market forces and price of that market. There is a price point for all 'arms' - heck I bought a S&W SD9VE - some would say that is a low priced clunker - but hey it is a shooter and accurate, there is a market price for that. Then there is the Wilson Combat 'tactical whiz bang whatever' at 3k plus - there is a market for that as well. Then the wholly overpriced colt pythons etc.... heck I want a Thompson Subgun - and I don't have a spare $ 25k + lying around - the market drives that price....... The point is that the supply/demand curve for all items should not be messed with - once the GOV (local/state/federal) starts putting their hands in more and more things all they do is EFF stuff up......... Let CTD set an outrageous price for ammo - guess what they will end up having a surplus that wont move, and then they will drop their price and it will sell etc. See all fixed.................... What the Texas AG should be more worried about is how he is going to protect the states citizens from the Federal ATF overreach over arm braces and not what CTD is charging for 9mm ammo......... !

you should really take your own advice about reading what others are saying, and don't try to EXPLAIN anything to me. I didn't ask for your interpretation of what you think is right or wrong. I started this thread to show MY satisfaction with what is happening. You don't like it? Fine, that is your opinion and you have a right to it. But you trying to EXPLAIN anything to me is neither your place nor is it appreciated. You have no idea of my background, my knowledge, or my experience so please refrain from EXPLAINING anything to me!

Free market should make allowances for emergencies to make sure everyone can afford what they need. I didn't see anyone complaining when NJ hit stores for gauging water prices or gas stations for gauges gas prices during Sandy.

I'm sorry to say, but if you aren't in support of the Texas Law, it is you who are not for a free market. My family comes from a Communist country. You know what they did there? Inflated prices to the point where it was impossible for the average person to afford "essentials". Which is why there were lines for milk, bread, flour, and toilet paper. They would inflate prices, liquidate the market, and then drop prices again when there wasn't enough for everyone. So if you were at the end of the line, and they ran out, you didn't eat that day. And certain people starved because of it. That's how they controlled the economy. Where do you come from? Don't think that because you think you have an altruistic stance, it is actually altruistic.

Where would the 2A be without ammo? If ammo is not essential then what about the 2A? In my book the 2A is very essential and last I checked a gun without ammo is just a fancy club.

John520, new user joined today, PM'd me on a WTB handgun thread I put up a few weeks ago and told he knew someone in Michigan who had the handgun for sale at this email: [email protected] "Antonio" at that email told me he had the handgun, offered at a way-below-market price. Decided to google the email address, it's got a history of scamming activity: http://www.sturmgewehr.com/forums/index.php?/topic/18687-wtb-mp-38-charles-erb-or-wilson-tube-smg/#comment-59672 https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/known-scammer-pending-or-bad-transaction-list/

Thank you! I'm in South Jersey, but appreciate the offer very much. Thanks for the info! I will start with the SR22. My local range has them to rent. Also getting a 10/22 so my son and I can plink with.

Starting with a BB gun is better than jumping right into and centerfire cartridge - i 100000% recommend starting on a .22 - if you want and are in the North Jersey area - let me know you can join me at Cherry Ridge Range.......

I am fine with the market determining the price of goods to be purchased and sold. Some if not all dairy farmers pour milk out due to low price/demand - Dairy farmers forced to dump milk as demand drops amid coronavirus closures “You can't shut down cows. You can't turn them off like a faucet,” one farmer tells NBC News about the sudden drop in demand for dairy products. The good the bad and the ugly of market forces - demand and a lack of supply creates a higher cost for the item (I am far from an economics theory major) - I have sold 500Rnd bricks of .22 at 85$ plus a brick and this say some guy is giving me 200$ for 1000 rounds of it... I have the SUPPLY - he has the DEMAND - I set the price - he likes it he buys it - he doesn't someone else will. Texas is wrong - they have no right to impede on any companies ability to due business and or set market rates for items - and sorry AMMO Is NOT essential.......... nice try. That is the problem with people - they cherry pick their stances when it suits them, in lieu of being intellectually honest... When you have a GOV determining what is essential and what is not - that creates problem and a tiered market/society. Like Mike Rowe now says - Mike Rowe on coronavirus lockdowns: 'There's a new word for 40 million people in this country: Non-essential' 'I've seen firsthand that everybody is essential to somebody,' 'Dirty Jobs' host says Some

I am so invested because I truly believe they got what they deserve. I am all for free market. However, when a company arbitrarily SIGNIFICANTLY raises prices on a product that is NOT a luxury item during a shortage, to a point where only the wealthy can afford it, that pisses me off, regardless the company or the product. CTD, along with other companies, have been on my blacklist for various reason. I'm sure others have their own blacklist. And it makes me very happy when a company that is on my blacklist got caught for the very reason that put them on my blacklist in the first place. I would be just as happy if DSG got into trouble for stabbing the 2A community in the back with their anti-2A lobbyists, but that is only a dream I guess.

Oh, and you all seem have have glared over the part about CTD showing one price on their site but then increasing it at time of checkout. So those people that didn't pay close attention when checking out got screwed even more. Should CTD be allowed to do that also, is that how the market works?

^^^^^ this

I haven't bought anything from CTD since 2007 but everytime I did a google search for specific ammo their site came up in the search results. That's how I know they hiked their prices 400%. Price gauging for essentials during an emergency is illegal in every state, the only difference is what each state considers as essential. In this case, the price is just. If they were price gauging unnecessary accessories I would agree with you. But price gauging ammo or any part of a firearm that is required for it to function should be illegal in every state. And keep in mind, anti price gauging laws are not price setting laws. Price gauging means significantly raising prices due to shortages. The Texas AG never said they are only allowed to charge a set amount.

"As per the article, ammo is essential in the eyes of the Texas AG." If ammo is essential, the government of Texas should be supplying ammo to those who can't afford it.

I haven't bought from them for 16 years or so. You don't like their price, buy elsewhere!

Yes, I would rather someone buy out all the ammo, or they could have limited how much each customer could buy. OR they could have raised the price by small percentage, but 400% is way over the line. Would you say the same if your local shoprite raised the price of a gallon of milk to $20?

In TX it is considered essential and there are state laws prohibiting gauging in time of "emergency". And also, there is a trickle down effect.

well if ammo is essential in Texas then giddy up!

I haven't shot it but I have seen and heard that they are great weapons. The problem with asking if any shops have them is that they will likely be gone unless you get there within the hour! There are no shops, in NJ or elsewhere, that guns are sitting on the shelves right now. You just need to keep calling and keep checking online sources until one shows up. When it does, snap it up.

You're in luck. https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=147703

Yes forgot to add that . Thanks

This is why it was smart to build your “others” and not buy a traceable one.

LOL My friend Syl moved to the Villages. He has what every widow wants. A pension and a pulse. Gets more action than 007

Welcome aboard from up here in north Jersey! There's much to be learned here, not the least of which is how to navigate NJ's web of firearms laws, which are designed to make you a felon.

I’m going to buy an apartment complex and call it Mom’s Basement. Y’all can move in and post to the 1A lounge all you want.

Only 3 episodes in and he’s already got the best lines. “you could be both...”, “Float to the top, or sink to the bottom. Everything else is The Churn”, “First of all, they started it. Second, they were alive when I walked out of there”. Almost as good as “You pushed a button?! My god, that’s truly how you go through life, isn’t it”.

I e-mailed the NJSP / FIU about this "glitch". It'll be interesting to see if they respond and what they say.

I would say you should apply Hanlon's Razor; "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Government projects, especially computer projects are notoriously poorly specified and often the execution is worse. Whether the NJ government hoplophobes see it as a happy coincidence is another matter, of course. In either case, malice or stupidity, it isn't good.

I'll take a brick of the .22 . . . Probably the Federal . . . I'm in Cherry Hill but I'll be at Howell Gun Works tomorrow afternoon that would save me a lot of time. PM me if you can meet up somewhere near.

In regards to the 357 Mag ammo: I'll take it.

PMing you about the 9mm. edit: No longer interested, no issues with seller or ammo, just don’t want to hold the transaction up for anyone else. Thanks!

That's the point . . . I don't give a crap what the law says. That's not the point. The law here in NJ says that we can't open carry and we can't get carry permits. Are you going to post a link to story of someone getting busted on one of those charges and say, "They got what they deserved . . . " It's a matter of standing up for what's right. Let's say that CTD didn't raise their prices and a few fine Texas citizens swooped in and bought up all of the .223 ammo so that none was available for anyone else. Is that OK? By raising prices, CTD actually ensured that MORE customers would be able to get ammo rather than fewer. So, the law doesn't make sense from any point of view.