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IN NO WAY IS THIS A WIN! The totality of what I know on this subject would take several paragraphs. Several friends that are fellow #2AHeavyLifters have reached out to me and we're bouncing ideas & what-if's off each other. Targeting out of state ammo sales... Targeting out of state long gun purchasing... Being able to turn-off your card electronically at-will of the Governor... ...and that's not even all of it. Only a fool would think this is a "win". Don't be a typical NJ gun owner and be satisfied as a Stockholm syndrome VICTIM! Let the big court case make it's way through the system and celebrate when we really WIN! Rosey

Shooters and re-loaders beware, there is a "gun shop" in Austin Texas reporting to have primers, powder and ammunition in-stock at normal retail pricing and cheap shipping. Only the gun shop is not a real gun shop, they do not have an FFL even though they say they do, and they are getting payment's through PayPal friends and family to a personal Email account. Just so many things didn't add up with this place. The Website is BULMEXUSA.COM. If you purchase anything from these guys you will loose your money and there is nothing you can do about it. I have already reported them to the Texas authorities and to my local ATF office. I know of 3 people just today that lost their money with these scammers. A group of shooting buddies ordered (but didn't pay for) over 70,000 primers that these guys said were in stock. When it came time to pay all the red flags went up. None of us lost any money because we were smart enough to recognize the red flags. No listing of the business with the ATF as a registered gun shop No listing of the business anywhere in Texas for that matter. I called them and asked for a copy of their FFL. They wouldn't give it to me. I asked for the first three numbers and last five numbers to check on the ATF site, wouldn't give it to me. They cited "scam artists on the web use their information to sell guns". Isn't that a coincidence. Website lists a range and all types of facilities, google earth shows a small building (former bank) that is listed for sale on a commercial property site in Texas. Normal Retail Pricing on primers and ammunition. Seemingly no limit to the amount you can buy and keep buying. $20 flat shipping fee, NO HAZMAT Payment made by PayPal "Friends and Family", "Apple Pay", or "Zelle". All three of these payment methods is as good as sending cash in the mail. You can never get it back and nobody to complain to. All types of spelling and grammatical mistakes on the web site. I'm sure everything is registered in Texas but definitely a Mexican based scam. Images of their facilities and inventory of ammunition and primers are stock photos I found almost immediately on Google Images. One image shows a counter filled with ammo for sale. That image is an old image I found on Google of a gun shop in Georgia, a legit gun shop. There are others but that's enough, pass the word along anywhere you browse on forums, stay away from these clowns. No telling how many people lost money. They have an Instagram site that claims to have 1,800 followers.

Several weeks ago I visited the newly renovated and reopened range at Collier-Mills WMA. Thought I would post my impressions. (I am having problems posting my images. Will do so later once I resolve the issue.) - Overall a substantial improvement over the prior range facility. - The shooting benches in particular are a great improvement over the old shooting benches. The countertop area is quite spacious and accommodates both left and right handed shooters. I found the ergonomics were great when shooting my Ruger Precision Rifle(556/223). The benches/tables are made of smooth concrete. Recommend bringing a towel or moving blanket(Harbor Freight) as the concrete seats can be cold/damp depending on the weather. - One of the eight shooting benches has no seats in order to accommodate handicapped shooters(e.g. wheelchair). - There are two handicap parking spaces directly next to the shooting positions. Other than that, you need park in the same area as before. It is possible to temporarily pull your vehicle down the hill near the benches in order to offload/load your gear. I was very much hoping this would be the case. In the past, I didn't like having to lug all my stuff to/from the car in hot weather. (Am not as young or fit as I once was.) - The line of shooting benches are approx 25 years further back from the berm. So the range is now approx 125 yards rather than the pervious 100 yards. This also means you are 25 yards closer to your vehicle when you go to/from it during the course of your visit. - The roof over the shooting line is large and provides much more protection from the sun and rain than the old concrete bunkers did. - There is a slanted concrete structure in front of the shooting line to stop bullets from going over the top of the berm. I.e. when shooting you do not have line of sight of the top of the berm. - My only criticism, and it struct me as quite odd, is that the shooing line is skewed to the left relative to the berm. If you imagine a straight line from each bench to the berm, only the approx left 3/5's of the berm is being used. I do not believe this is an optical illusion. Another shooter there thought the same. For those of you who may be unfamiliar with NJ Wildlife Management Area ranges; you need a NJ Hunting License or be the guest of someone who has one. For the Collier-Mills WMA in particular, you can shoot rifles (up to and including .30 caliber) and shotguns(slugs or buckshot only). No clay shooting nor handguns are allowed. Refer to the NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife website for information on the various WMA's and what types of shooting is allowed at each of them.

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I believe that most states and cities just prevent local and/or state police and investigators from working with federal officers to enforce federal laws that are in conflict with state laws. In other words, if the feds want to ban magazines that hold more than ten rounds, they are on their own to come in to Arizona to confiscate them or arrest those that hold them.

Put the longest extension on that you want, then epoxy a wooden dowel in the end to limit the capacity to (6) 2.75" shells (not quite 7), then (6) 3" shells should fit.

Perhaps there's a huge number of straw purchases on behalf of Chicago natives?

For the benefit of those thinking of getting into PMs, thought I would share my experience as a novice so far. · All my purchases so far were through JM Bullion. Am pleased so far with all aspects of their selection and service. The other reputable online dealers mentioned above are likely fine as well. Just have not dealt with them yet. · I was very apprehensive at the outset making such potentially expensive purchases online. So my first order was relatively small so I could get comfortable and develop trust of JM Bullion and their ordering and shipping processes. · I had in mind what I wanted to purchase in total. I then spread that out over a number of additional orders as opposed to one large order. · The price, which includes NJ Sales Tax, is locked in at the time of the order. Same for the quantity you ordered, even if it subsequently goes out of stock. I.e. no surprises. · In all cases, I paid using Echeck/ACH, utilizing funds in my checking account. Purchasing is as easy as a few clicks of the mouse after you initially set things up. (They use a financial intermediary known as PLAID. Google it.). Items ship in 3-5 days after your order date in order for them to confirm that your funds have cleared. · In all cases I opted to pay extra for the UPS 3-Day Select service ($4.99 - $14.99 depending on the weight, e.g. for a gold and silver order respectively). A signature is required so someone must be home waiting for UPS to arrive. All items were very securely packaged. · In most cases, the item arrived the day after I first saw that the UPS label was created. Very fast delivery from Nevada! As fast as six business days from date of order to receipt of the items. However, in one case it was much slower and I feared the item was lost/stolen in transit. Nevertheless, it did arrive on the third business day after UPS picked it up. · Their Wishlist and “Notify me when back in stock” notifications work well. · Their mobile app works well. Let’s you shop, place and track the status of orders, etc. (Hint: Click on Store, then click on either the Gold or Silver coin, then use the menu pulldown on the upper left to login. From there you can see the status of all your orders, place new orders, etc. · And yes, having to pay NJ sales tax is a bummer as compared to other states like Delaware. However, given I am acquiring PMs as a hedge against a future systemic financial SHTF situation, I deemed that added cost to not be prohibitive. If I instead were investing for the shorter term, then it likely would have been. So I have officially caught the PM bug and have joined the ranks of “stackers”. Am very much enjoying watching PM related YouTube videos, Podcasts, and learning as I go along. So I have a suspicion that these won’t be my last purchases. The 2021 American Silver Eagles sure do look tempting. As was said above in this thread: “Come on in, the water is fine!”.

@Mrs. Peel Excellent analysis! The DC Project-NJ is running a HUGE event with Dick Heller next month on May 15th in Moorestown, NJ. Theresa Inacker, our CNJFO Communications Director & DC Project's NJ Delegate, is running the Cocktail party fundraiser. Here's the story I wrote. I'm going to cross post it soon. CNJFO is loaning DCP our software set-up to collect funds and garner registrations. We've also donated $1,500 to DCP so they can hire the caterer! Mutual Aid is what it's all about. Egos get checked at the door... DC PROJECT-NJ WELCOMES DICK HELLER! PUBLIC INVITED! MEET SUPREME COURT SURVIVOR AT DCP FUNDRAISER! by Dave "Rosey" Rosenthal, Black Wire Media Editor in-Chief YOU can help make it happen! Please join the Coalition of New Jersey Firearm Owners in the battle to educate NOT legislate by supporting The DC Project's mission in whatever way you can. Tickets for this exclusive Cocktail Party with Dick Heller are on sale NOW! Please join CNJFO in welcoming some of the most talented #2AHeavyLifters to ever come to NJ! Space is limited, so get yours TODAY: https://www.cnjfo.com/event-4209093 . Evening includes remarks by Top Shot Gabby Franco and our esteemed DC Project Delegates from around the country. A mystery door prize, silent auction/raffles, and history-making memories to last a lifetime awaits! Sponsored in part by: COALITION OF NEW JERSEY FIREARM OWNERS (CNJFO) BLACKSTONE INVESTIGATIONS GROUP ELITE TACTICAL ACADEMY LEGACY INDOOR RANGE AND ARMORY JOHN PETROLINO (Decoding Firearms Author) ROC TRAINING SEPULVEDA INC. SECOND AMENDMENT INSTITUTE SIG SAUER SPRINGFIELD ARMORY Women are the most powerful force on Capitol Hill. Time and time again, organized groups of women anti-gunners with their red uniform shirts demand our legislator's attention, screeching their message of ignorance, divisiveness and a tyranny-inspiring laundry list of GUN CONTROL Bills. These past weeks the nation endured their onslaught and more gun control is planned. NOW IT'S OUR TURN! It's time to build our war chest to fight TYRANNY! It's time for our "TEAL FOR 2A" Patriots from The DC Project to represent all gun owners and turn the hearing rooms TEAL! And you can be a part of HISTORY! Can't make the fundraiser but still want to make a tax-deductible donation to support these Second Amendment warriors? Please visit: www.cnjfo.com/page-18139 . Sponsorship opportunities are plentiful! Businesses and individuals with products and services a new(er) female gun owner can make use of are urged to contact New Jersey's DC Project Delegate Theresa Inacker at: [email protected] for info. For more info, to make a "Teal For 2A" apparel purchase or to join The DC Project, please visit: www.dcproject.info .

I have to agree that the tool is a worthless POS. I lost my original one and bought one and got one from Brownell's. I just found them in stock at Midwest Gun Works https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/C61721

It's not - it's publicity. The real win will be when the case against FID's and Permits wins.

I agree... I dont see what the WIN is about??? Its only a win, if the E-FID is valid and available the instant the online FARS is complete. As in, not waiting on the local PD to do their thing, and the chief to sign/approve it like the paper version.. If this is what they mean by a victory, then great. People would have their FID in a matter of days, not months.. But i highly doubt this to be the case. The E-pistol permits still need the local PD to sign off and issue, so im sure its the same thing with E-FID....

Victory? A victory would have been the elimination of FID card and P2P's.

I don’t see this as a win at all. We need to get rid of the permitting system. I know the FID card is low tech but how will ammo sales commence now with everything online? It ain’t crazy to think that this could be a step for California like ammo background check on ammo sales. Also with all the increase online work, resources, blah blah blah, of the online system, perhaps permit fees could go up. The cost of convenience might hurt us in the long haul.

Ask your instructor to find a statute that says it is legal to use Hornady critical defense...Here's a hint, there isn't one. No law in NJ says anything about what you can use for Self Defense in your home, only where you can possess hollow points and "in your home" is definitely stipulated. If you must fire a gun in SD in NJ you will most likely be charged with something regardless of what type of ammo you are using. However possession of hollow points in an unlawful manner should not be on that list of charges since you were in your home. Where guns are concerned in NJ, you are assumed to be guilty until you are proven innocent, that is the fact. All the discussion of what type of ammo is just window dressing. I am not a lawyer though and I suspect your trainer is not either so if you want to, you can ask a lawyer but the answer is going to most likely be "maybe" because NJ's laws are too arbitrary. Added... I found this discussion on what the State Police had to say about it in 2011 so not sure how valid it is or if it is still good in 2020. https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/new-jersey-law-on-ammo-definitive.628312/ "-It is legal to own and store hollow point ammunition in your home -It is legal to purchase hollow point ammunition in a store -It is legal to transport hollow point ammunition to range for sporting use (and for that matter in most hunting situations) -It is legal to purchase, own and use Corbon Powerball, Hornady Critical Defense and Federal EFMJ (including Federal LE EFMJ +P loads) at range and in personal defense situations in home pursuant to NJ state law on use of force in home defense situation -NJSP ballistics unit does not consider the rounds mentioned above as hollow point or dum dum bullets and will testify as such if required -It *may* be illegal to *use* hollow point bullets in a home defense situation, however, this is a gray area. NJSP will not make an arrest higher than 4th degree in this circumstance and if not associated with another unlawlful act will likely not make an arrest at all. However, should criminal or civil charges be pursued by gunshot victim at later date, you may be liable and charged with use." So that is probably where your instructor got the Hornady Critical Defense from. Hopefully none of us ever get a chance to test this out... -Jim

I own 3 Hi Point carbines: one each in .380acp, .40S&W, and .45acp. Both the .40 and the .45 use the same mags as their handguns. Yes, they will never win any beauty contests, but they do fullfill their purpose: to reliably send pistol caliber rounds downrange and hit their targets every time. Isn't that why you buy a gun?? The factory sights are for shit, in my opinion, but red dots are easily mounted on the integral top rail. Mag capacities are limited, but so are we here in the Glorious PRNJ, so that's not an issue. I wouldn't mind having one in 10mm if I could find one at pre-pandemic prices. Made in America (Ohio, in fact) and with a lifetime warranty. Bottom line, I'd rather have a loaded Hi Point carbine than a sharp stick! YMMV