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When campaigning I want to hear what the candidate stands for. What they support. “Whatever the legislature allows” doesn’t tell me anything about his platform. Neither does everything is on the table”. It’s a completely throwaway statement meant to appease gun owners while not committing to anything just in case he gets past the primary. The only thing it tells me is he’s a politician. Which isn’t necessarily a good thing.

No. But I'm not sure I want Ciattarelli either. But he's paid his dues to the GOP and is their golden child. We wont have a choice in this election. Again. Whats the definition of insanity again?

Blast dissipators/diverters/diffusers are not considered flash hiders in NJ. The pinky test is not a real test. In any event, all flash hiders are legal in NJ in and of themselves. They are merely one of the 6 features on the “evil” list that defines “Assault Weapons” in NJ. You are permitted to install two of the “evil” features on a Semi-Auto rifle and still be legal in NJ. A flash hider does not become illegal until it is the third “evil” feature on a semi-auto. And even then, it isn’t the muzzle device that is illegal, it’s the entire firearm. • You can put flashiders on bolt guns. • You can put a flash hider on a Mini14 or Fight Light SCR with no issues (the flash hider replaces the non-existent pistol grip for your second evil feature). Since an “OTHER” or SBF is defined as a firearm and decidedly not a rifle, the Assault Weapon restrictions/definitions do not apply. You do have to follow the federal definitions to avoid inadvertently building an AOW or SBR: SBF Requirements: • Over 26” in length (measured from the back of the receiver extension with the brace off to the end of the unpinned barrel or pinned muzzle device) • It can not have a stock (can have a brace or a naked receiver extension) • It must have a VFG (AFG types are not acceptable) • The lower must have been transferred as an “other” not as a complete rifle, and have never had a stock installed. Some manufacturers are engraving “SBF” or “Other” on the lower as part of the serial or model number as a marketing tool. It’s a nice feature but is not a necessary step to possess a legal SBF. If you were in a state (definitely not NJ) that permitted Short Barreled Rifles/Shotguns (SBR/SBS) and filed the appropriate NFA paperwork (Form 1) with the Feds to convert a rifle or shotgun into an SBR/SBS then you would have to engrave the lower accordingly - But you do not have to do that for an SBF. Finally - And this is important - GUN STORE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT PAID TO GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE!! I repeat - GUN STORE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT PAID TO GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE!! Do not rely on gun counter salespeople to keep you out of jail, or to sell you things that you can technically have but the employee doesn’t think so. They are paid to sell guns and keep the shop out of trouble. They are not required to have any training or certification in NJ or Federal laws past what is required to take your money, get you through NICS, and get you out the door. Take legal advice from lawyers*. * Yes, that includes advice on Gun Forums - including what I wrote above. I am not a lawyer. Accept what I said above at your own risk. If you don’t know, research what you learned and vet what you hear/read here and elsewhere.

I did. You basically said Singh and Rizzo told more obvious lies than Ciatterelli. Ciatterelli is an experienced politician. I would expect him to be a smoother liar. You also said that that is what politicians do. Is Ciatterelli not a politician? This reminds me of two guys in the office. One is Trump all the way and the other is a staunch Democrat. They spend hours going back and forth arguing that the other guy's favored dirtbag politician is worse than his own favored dirtbag politician. Neither seem to care that both politicians are dirtbags. I think it's time for some fresh people to get voted in. It matters not if the RINO Ciatterelli is capable of winning on a Republican ticket. He only says he's a Republican. Remember, politicians lie - that's what they do.

A small code change would have given Sanders the same result.

Wow. That’s fucked up. Too bad, I liked his position on some things, but that kills the deal for me.

Go to https://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html and click the State you want to get a permit from. It will pop up a box to ask resident or non-resident. Click non-resident and the map colors will change to show you what states will honor the permit as a non-resident.

I know buddy. Don’t worry, I won’t let Pat’s ghost haunt you.

FFl transfer always applies. If you buy it from a local NJ shop, they do not charge a transfer fee but you still pay NICS @ $16 for a handgun. Buying out of state to save tax is probably a bad idea since a $500 pistol will save you $30 on tax but you then spend $45 and up +NICS to have them do the transfer. A $2,000 gun would justify the transfer. You have to weigh it out.

Awww, but I say that with love!

I liked Singh better! Jack Ciatterelli made it clear he would allow people with dangerous occupations to get a carry permit! He will not remove justifiable need for us plain folks. He is a career politician and a RINO at best!

The SBF laws are clear enough. It gets confusing when folks try to get cute and play the “how about” game to find new loopholes or to make the laws creatively work for the gun they have their heart set on, when in reality they don’t. For the most part, I find they are relatively straight forward and easy enough to stay on the correct side of things - even if I don’t agree with them - with some noted exceptions. If you’re LEO, keep your eyes open - the NJSP Firearms Unit offer classes for LEO on FARS and NJ Gun laws that are pretty good. They charge a nominal fee - like $30 - that your command staff shouldn’t balk at. I think you can also pay your own way and go on your own time if your Dept. policies allow for that.

Personally, I look up the appropriate laws, statutes, guiding documents, directives, and guidelines myself and then I talk them over with people I personally know and trust. Some are in the firearms industry, some are LE, some are knowledgeable regular earth people. When that feels complete - I take MY chances on MY decision based on MY research and MY formulated opinion. I definitely don’t rely on gun store counter guys that I don’t know.

yes, absolutely the mechanics don't change, just muscle memory through practice

For Christ's sake! He didn't say "whatever the legislature allows" . . . He didn't say, "Everything is on the table if the legislature pushes it on me . . . " He talked about what is fucking possible. Without the legislature, he probably can't do shit. Why should he say otherwise? Do you want him to pound the table in favor of the Second Amendment and then not be able to do anything because of opposition in the legislature? Listen to him . . . He's tell you that, even as governor, he will be virtually powerless on the issue with gains in the legislature. The same is true about Singh and Rizzo but they won't tell you that until AFTER they are elected. THAT is what politicians do. They make promises that they know they can't keep and they hope that you don't notice that they will not be able to keep them.