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It would not surprise me if internet dealers did not want to be burdened by these new regulations, and refused to ship to NJ. And BTW, what is the purpose of tracking large orders of ammo? The only people buying thousands of rounds are target shooters like us. Anyone bent on mayhem would only need (and be able to carry) a few hundred rounds, at most.

We have heard nothing from the state concerning the ammo reporting. I will certainly keep yousguys in the loop when we learn what this will entail.

Here is a good take on the situation from a thread on ar15.com about NY CCW restrictions but applies to N.J. as well: "What you are seeing is what has happened in every other state that has passed shall-issue concealed carry. Not to the extent NY is going but similar. The people inconvenienced will complain and changes will be made. Then lawsuits will happen and then more changes are made. Then as people adjust to the idea of "people walking around carrying hidden guns" more changes will occur. My state has had concealed carry for decades and we are still tweaking the law." "Back in 2000 when Michigan was trying to go from may-issue to shall-issue we had a state level pro-gun organization trying to kill the bill for the exact same reasons you mentioned. The people with connections had permits and very few restrictions. They threw a fit that going to shall-issue would result in a more involved process, a higher fee, and more restrictions on where they could carry. They had the "I got mine, fuck everyone else" attitude that you seem to have. Shall issue passed, barely. Counties like Wayne County, where Detroit is, dug their feet in and refused to issue any permits for almost a year. Multiple lawsuits had to be filed against them. The legislature has gone back many times to tweak the law, remove restrictions, and make other changes to improve things". "Baby steps, just like how the Dems take away our rights, is how you get the restrictions removed. The big hurdle is getting shall-issue allowed. That is still a huge win for NY. Then you go back and get the restrictions removed". .

If they aren't requiring it, why are you asking more questions? Submit your FPID and place your order. If that's what they require then just give THAT to them without stirring up a hornets nest that doesn't need to be stirred up.

There's a great reason to go back to "not eating them" If people didn't buy these over priced items they would reduce the price, to prevent discarding the product.

Much more fun to create your own new laws and pass them off as facts from an expert. "If YoU pErcHaSe eVeN a SinGLe .22 HaLloW PoiNT yOuR gOiNg tOo JaiL!" (Misspellings added because these legal experts often seem to have problems with basic words)

I print my own passport photos from my printer using photo paper. It works just fine. The trick is getting it exactly 1.5 X 1.5 inch or slightly larger. There are many apps from PC to cell to help with making small photos. Fedex and UPS offer notary services.

The statutes say possession of a handgun without first obtaining a permit to carry a handgun is a crime. Possession of a rifle or shotgun with first obtaining an FPIC is a crime. Possession of a loaded rifle or shotgun is a crime. Note that for the last one there is no permit mentioned. You cannot possess a loaded long gun, full stop.

Some post offices used to do them. Dunno how common it was/is. I know AAA offices have done them too, not sure if that is still offered. Some camera shops may, one I worked at years ago did before closing down. If taking photos yourself, you typically want a clean, bare white background, and both the background and your face should be free of heavy shadows with clean, even lighting. This usually involves multiple lights when done professionally, and you should be at least 2-3 feet away from the background. If you can crop/edit the photo to a correct size and have access to a paper cutter, a glossy 4x6 printed almost anywhere will be cheap. If you can't do basic photo editing/cropping, you are better off going where someone does this all the time. I have seen the photos taken at some places or by individuals and I would be surprised if they passed. A few I know were rejected (for passports).

Yes, of course.

I still think about your chili By far best I've ever had

https://www.tntfireworks.com/locations/stands-tents?utf8=✓&query= 07724 This is some locations down there.

we’ve seen that stunt before, the fuel prices skyrocket up and then drops a couple pennies and the sheeple think they are getting a deal. At 15 or 20 cent drop off from $5 a gallon territory isn’t a great deal considering two years ago we were totally energy independent and 87 octane fuel was $2 a gallon. Preaching to the choir here but the fuel cost is only the tip of the iceberg. Anyone that’s been to the grocery store or has purchased building materials for home maintenance lately sees the impact there as well. I don’t know what the talking heads of cable TV are saying but I’m seeing at least a 30% increase for same shopping cart of groceries at the same store compared to Trump’s economy. So much for candidate biden and his "I'm Joe from Scranton PA" BS about how much he cares about "kitchen table" issues.

Up till now, retailers only had to log the sales, and the log was subject to inspection at the pleasure of the state. Exactly what the new protocol means, no clue how and when the purchase data is submitted. Maybe @dajonga can fill us in on the deets. Basically the state has set it up so they don't have to go to the retailer to get sales data (electronically collect intelligence on US citizens). They can now look it up in their ammo registry in Trenton.

"I just got my new passport and I went to CVS to get the photo done. They take it and process it and send you on your way with what you need for your passport." I used them as well, but you need to tell them up front you want 4 photos. Deal is about $16/2 and only $2.99 for an extra set. I forgot to and was charged $32 and needed to work out a refund later.

It’s not designed to. It’s designed to make it more and more inconvenient for gun owners.

Folks usually set a par time for each string, not for the entire course of fire. I'm assuming that many of these ranges are tailoring their CoF to enable multiple shooters to take quals within a shooting port and without any extra gun handling to satisfy insurance requirements/safety.

Nothing they do solves anything.

I just got my new passport and I went to CVS to get the photo done. They take it and process it and send you on your way with what you need for your passport.

My question would be is what defines "actively report HG ammo sales to the state". Does that mean report ALL sales AT the point of purchase or does it mean "actively report HG ammo sales to the state" when requested. BIG difference. Regardless. it really doesn't leave the state knowing how much the purchaser actually has on hand at any one point in time. Maybe the purchaser shoots A LOT and the 5k rounds they purchased last month really doesn't mean much. And what business is it of the "State" (NJ or otherwise) to know how much HG ammo you've purchased. What's next? Tracking how many 6 or 12 or cases of beers you purchased? Or bottles of wine? Or whiskey / bourbon? Really, what interest does it serve? Because they aren't tracking how much is being used / consumed. It's really useless. And even if a person purchases "x" (call it 10k rounds of HG ammo) then really, what business it of the State knowing this? It's just more "feel good" legislation to make it appear they are "doing something". But in reality it means little to nothing. And it won't "solve" anything.

One point I haven't seen anyone discuss. Many have talked about wanting to carry hollowpoints, carry normal capacity magazines and other issues. A better argument is for national reciprocity. I'd rather carry a 10 rd magazine without hollowpoints in another state. The fact is most states have no magazine or hollowpoint laws. If the 2A applies outside your home it should apply if you travel outside your state. National reciprocity, using the 14th Amendment should be the next argument. Murphy, who has no clue, is waiting to see what Hochel gets away with. As it is just about all the reasons to go to NYC are gun free zones. I expect a lot of that to be changed. National reciprocity is the most important fight IMO.

Gotcha

Folks, if the specific law in question is for dealers, why is anyone worrying about this ? As Glen said, order, get it and enjoy. As a side note, in the age of credit cards, internet and shipping, they got all the "records" and "tracking" they need.

I dropped off my packet at NJSP Washington Station this afternoon. The Sgt. at the front desk looked at everything in it and was clearly referring to a checklist as he did so. He said it looked complete and would pass it to their firearms person. He even volunteered her email address in case I had any questions to ask her. This is what I did: 3 x application form (SP642 6/28/2022) filled in on my PC and printed. My references signed each copy. I signed each copy in front on a notary at the UPS store he and notarized them. 1 x consent for mental health records search (SP066 7/23/2019) Which I signed and one of my references witnessed. The UPS store guy also did my photos. He knew what it was for as soon as I said I needed 4 pictures. He said he had done several already this week, but I was the first person to ask for 1.5"x1.5" rather than 2"x2". He made a mental note to help future customers. (I also was asked questions by the other staff at the store about how to get a gun and a permit - one was a young expecting mother) I got a money order for $50 from the post office and made it out to "Treasurer, State of New Jersey" - I have been advised by the NJSP trooper that handled my (failed) app in 2017 that the wording on the MO has to be exactly that. Anything else has been bounced before I did quals with a certified instructor that has been doing RPO quals for years. He is recognized by NJSP as being certified for that. He signed off that I did the HQC1 and HNCQ. He did not put his NRA certification number on the form so I got it from him and added it myself. I provided a photocopy of my drivers license and my certificate of naturalization. I provided a photocopy of the PtPP that was executed when I acquired each handgun I qualified with. I went to Identogo in Easton, PA this morning as there were no appointments available on the web site in NJ at all. I had to pay extra for out of state, but I was not prepared to wait. I booked the appt on Tuesday and went today (Thursday). I included the receipt in my packet. Before I handed it all in, I made sure I had a copy of everything for my records. Now the wait begins.

The 33 rounder is for the mag change. Otherwise carry it IWB at 12 o'clock and enjoy all the attention it attracts.

It means the circuit decision is vacated and they’re told to reconsider based on Bruen. So one of two things: 1) they find it unconstitutional based on Bruen or 2) they come up with even more elastic logic to uphold the ban. The question I have is if ANJRPC can refile for an injunction based on the remanding. That would provide relief while the circuit sits on the case

He has 0 chance. Mainstream America doesn't vote for Anti-American Progressive Shitbags from NJ/NY/CA, etc. You can bank on that.

then there's this guy...

"Until we see statutes, we don't know what we'll be fighting." - Dan Schmutter, Esq. The Gun For Hire Radio Broadcast: Episode 579 - Best Gun Range NYC and NJ Area | Gun Range Near Me

Interesting. A “catastrophic” shortage of judges exists before even factoring in the forthcoming 200,000 CC applications. I am glad to hear that. Will hopefully compel the judiciary to take themselves out of the CC application approval process. I.e. let the police chief give final approval as with FID and P2Ps. The judges can still hear appeals to any denials.

Thank you. I’m a week or so we will know clearer. I hope. For now if anyone says that know what you need or ask for money to start the process. It’s a scam. ant.

I don't know why you think I'm talking about government requirements. I'm talking about a situation where you find yourself needing to use a handgun to defend yourself or someone you love. If that's not a valid scenario, why carry at all? If you are not serious about being able to effectively use the tool you want to carry, why do you want it? Luck is not a strategy.

Stop with the Chicken Little stuff. PCH lasts 2 years. You do not need to take a class every time you apply - it's a one time cost if you can't pass quals on your own. You need to requalify every 6 months so 4 times in 2 years. I did a qual 2 weeks ago that cost me $65 plus 50 rounds. It's nowhere near $250 + 400 rounds. Fingerprinting every renewal is dumb, but yeah $100 each time If you can't pass quals on the first try, walking onto the range cold (i.e. no warm up/practice shots) you are not ready for an armed encounter - get more training and practice.