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We are really overthinking this qualification thing. It's really simple. NJAC 13:45-2.4 sets the standard. There are three ways to qualify. I'll list them out of order... (1) take a course that's the same as the one police take at the academy - that's not available so we can't do this one. (3) Pass a test on the state's laws about use of force by an instructor of the police academy or NRA instructor. - there is no such course so we can't do this one. (2) Shoot a qualifier and submit your scores with a NRA or other instructor. This is the only one we can use since it's the only one that exists so we will do this one. And there is no specific required course of fire. So go shoot something that seems reasonable and submit your scores. It will be hard for the state to reject any course of fire since they have no idea what's acceptable and what isn't. Make yours look kind of like everyone else's and the permit approvers will just assume it's the correct one. If someone does complain, ask for the standard they are using to decide that - there isn't one. Living in NJ has made us so afraid of making a mistake that we've filled 20 pages of what-ifs on this topic.

Why do you say so? Don't you pay just as much for your right to Free Speech? What about how much you paid for your Voting Permit?

I've been a member of the Phillipsburg Pistol Club for the past 13 years. I am currently a member of the club's Board of Directors. I would just like to update the forum users to the current details of our club. The club has been in existence since 1961 and at the present location since 1964. We have 8 indoor 50' lanes & 12 outdoor 25-yard lanes with a covered firing line. The facility has seen extensive renovations over the past 3 years. See the photos on our website. We are an NRA affiliated club and require members to be NRA members. While basically a pistol club we do allow .22 rimfire rifle use as well as "pistol caliber" rifle and carbine use (9mm, 38spec., .357mag., .45acp, .45 Colt, etc.). Centerfire rifle cartridge use is not allowed (.223, 5.56, 308, 17hmr, etc.). Shotgun use is limited, trap or skeet are not possible due to the club's location. We are actively seeking new members. The club hosts a IDPA match on one Wednesday evening a month. We offer NRA training classes throughout the year. Initial membership associated cost are $220.00. Yearly dues are $80.00. Our daily range fee is $3.00 for the entire day. Guest fees are $10.00 per day (2 guests max.). Our hours are 8am to 10pm 365 days a year. The facility is electronically secured at all times. We maintain a safe, clean, friendly atmosphere at all times. Please go to our website for further information.

yup......real 2A advocates....omo.

Handgun sales increase after Maryland changes permit standard (yahoo.com)

we've made a small step, thanks to justice thomas. one which the 'rats will continuiously throw blockades at. what i think we need to do now, is to find a way to use their stubbornness against them, and get more repubs out to vote. it looks like nj is approx 40% repub. if we can get more people out to vote, we can get repubs voted in. mind you, i'm talking actual repubs, not the rinos we normally see here. i think other than that, this is the best we're gonna get.

I wonder how long it’ll take until the cost of exercising our 2nd Amendment right is challenged in court for creating a financial hardship. Essentially limiting the right to only those of financial means is clearly unconstitutional. I suppose the State is off the hook for now since they haven’t officially supported the avenue of attaining a NJ CCW, but it’s something that I hope attorneys are planning to keep an eye on. What some of these ranges are pricing their quals at is prohibitive. GFH includes the photos and notary which, in my humble opinion, is classy and should be provided by more places.

GunForHireRadio #582 let’s address some of the myths, traps, nuances, and complexity of the NJ CCW and try set a clear path to success https://gunforhire.com/blog/the-gun-for-hire-radio-broadcast-episode-582/ IMG_0706.MOV

don't get me started.....I promised I wouldn't............ya know how I feel about the 2nd.

I never get an email from my PD, just the "NJ Firearms System" approval email. My last set of permits had the official approval email in 6 business days from date of application submission. I did get the email at like 6am, so it may just be an automated system email.. check tomorrow morning

The administrative code lists only 3 and numbers them 1 through 3. The NJSP Firearms Investigation Guide lists a 4th (a course or test in the safe handling of a handgun) and they use letters A through D instead of numbers. But that 4th one doesn't show up in the actual law. I don't know where the NJSP they got that 4th one from. I'm avoiding that 4th one since it's not really what the law requires. But, based on the NJSP's guidance, there will probably be PDs that accept it. The Superior Court may know the actual law and not do what the NJSP tells them to do so I'm staying away just in case the courts reject applications that use their NRA Basic Handgun Course.

The Phillipsburg Pistol Club has begun to host NJ Permits to carry a Handgun qualifications. We are currently working on getting the information on our web site. Information will be available in a few days. The club has 4 authorized instructor / qualifiers to perform the qualifications of which I am one. Stay tuned, more information to come. LTC PPC XO

Just a FYI if you have TD bank account getting something notarized FREE So check your bank they may do it for the same cost

Lack of grammar and the ability to spell in the English language is not a prerequisite for a FPID or P2P, but a clean criminal record is! Doctors are NOT the answer here......A lawyer is!

Best guess is that the insurance companies require this. Concealed means concealed.

I'll give PPC a "thumbs up"! My uncle is a member there and guested me in many times over the years. Nice little club!

Looks pretty straight forward to me. Just have to make sure there wasn't another revision after that...The usual argument comes up (analogues to the lack of knowledge of the NJ laws on HPs - legal to have in home and shoot at range), "well if a cop doesn't know this he will arrest you anyway"...To which the answer is, I can't worry about the legal knowledge of any given cop (I'd never leave home if I did - lol), I'm interested in the actual law.

This is some of the worst advice I have ever seen on this forum. Money and time spent on a high stakes life saving defensive skill with abilities that degrade quickly without regular sustainment training is never, ever a waste. It’s not enough to just meet the minimum. We should always strive to improve. Always be a student. Be good Stay safe Get training Be an asset, not a liability.

There is a reason I take everything Nappen says with a grain of salt...