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I qualified with Shooters, paperwork all accepted and just notified my references were contacted.

The poi is not going to change significantly enough to matter for the qualification. They will not be looking for you to shoot his eye out and count it as a miss if the bullet hole is not touching the pupil. You're overthinking this.

The form you get from Shooters will state that you have: - "successfully completed a permit of carry course demonstrating 'that he is thoroughly familiar with the safe handling and use of handguns' in accordance with N.J.A.C 13:54-2.4(b)" - Qualifying on Handgun Qualification Course and has received a minimum score of 80% ( I actually scored 100%, but I understand the form letter thing) - Instructor certifies that "I have provided a course of instruction to the above-named applicant on firearms safety and have also given instruction on deadly force issues"(they have it in bold on the form) I presume that covers the bases. We will see.

You have to earn your shot. You have to earn it ahead of time by training - so you have the ability. And you have to earn it in the moment of crisis by thinking - so you create opportunity. Sometimes, earning it requires you to take risks or put yourself in greater danger - but that’s part of the responsibility of carrying in defense of self and others. If you can’t do that, either because the tactical situation makes it impossible, or you have different responsibilities (family member in danger), or you don’t have the ability to successfully make that particular shot - don’t shoot. Don’t force it. Improve your position if you can by solving any of the problems preventing you from being successful, and work it. Sometimes, things just don’t line up and that’s ok. But, don’t take the shot you can’t make just because you were there. Shooting at or hitting an innocent bystander accidentally/negligently is unacceptable.

Pretty simple, if a law doesn't exist... you have no duty to inform. Second point, which is a little blurry. NJ only allows Law enforcement and the courts to have access to personal information on gun owners. That would disqualify releasing personal information to anyone else, including the NJMVC. However, it wouldn't disqualify NJ from having a seperate system only accessible by LEO.

Unknown at this time. USA Carry says: Change of Address: Waiting For Information Informing Law Enforcement of Carry: Waiting For Information https://www.usacarry.com/new-jersey-concealed-carry/

This isn’t bbq, but I had to post it….cause y’all NEED to try this. Recently, my step mom had a get together at Morton’s Steakhouse. She RAVED about the appetizer she had…’bacon steaks’. Here’s the recipe. Instead of using a pork belly, I ordered some bacon steaks (1” thick cut bacon) from Herman Wurst House. When I get back from this business trip, we are gonna make it.

Oh, right. Thermopylae NJ.

Clinton WMA Centerfire Rifle Range To Be Closed July 27 – August 9, 2022 The Clinton WMA Centerfire Rifle Range in Clinton, Hunterdon County will be closed for a sound abatement project from July 27, 2022, to August 9, 2022. The range is scheduled to reopen on August 10, 2022. The range will close again for the second phase of this project on August 25, 2022. More details about this second closure will be shared when the contractor provides an end date. New Jersey Fish and Wildlife sincerely appreciates your patience and understanding while this work is being completed and improvements are made.

Yup saw that. Thank you! I will be calling them ahead of time. I am in NJ for two full days so I will have a little flexibility.

Flying up for work next week. Booked my time slot at Gun For Hire for the qualification. Hoping to drop off the application that same day at NJSP since I am not an NJ Resident. Fingers crossed. It's getting spicy!

Been AIWB carrying since I left NJ. Tier1 Axis Elite all the way for Zev OZ9c and G48MOS It's nice to have your gun at centerline, easier to draw, easier to conceal and easier to protect if it gets physical. It's not for everyone though as not everyone has the same built. If you've been enjoying that awesome NJ Italian food a little too much, it's going to he hard to draw that gun from under your beer belly. Just sayin'

I open carry sometimes. If I am running to Home Depot or something I'll just open carry, especially in the summer. If the wife and I are going out somewhere I conceal. Then again, Im no longer in NJ and no one cares here. If I am open carrying, I won't be the only one.

https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Power-Demystified-Beginners-Independence-ebook/dp/B07QNC25CP/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=solar+power+demystified&qid=1658849702&sprefix=solar+power+demy%2Caps%2C86&sr=8-4 Free kindle book. I found it pretty informative on the basic nuts and bolts. At the very least a solid starting point to asking good questions.

There is no duty to inform regarding firearm transportation in NJ.

The Admin code says this: There are 3 options for (b) of which you need to satisfy 1. Only option 3 has anything to do with use of force training. Shooting a qualification satisfies option 2 so you don't need to prove anything to do with use of force. Of course it is a very good idea to make sure you know the law regarding use of force, but it is not a required part of the application.

Not looking to buy roof panels, at least not just yet.

I've no experience with the range, but I was fascinated when I visited the gunsmith shop at Colonial Williamsburg. They build flintlocks using only tools and techniques available in the 18th century. Really beautiful guns, they only turn out a couple a year, and sell them for big bucks to collectors. https://www.colonialwilliamsburg.org/locations/gunsmith-shop/

I’m pretty sure it won’t be me, but I want to recommend a most excellent new BBQ show, in which I might have appeared way in the background of an episode filmed in NJ, had I not been travelling that weekend. BBQ USA premiered recently on the Food Network, and I highly recommend it! https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/bbq-usa Chef Michael Symon travels to some of the biggest BBQ competitions in the US, and usually follows the progress of four teams over the weekend. He really captures what goes on at a BBQ contest, from prep, cook, judging, regional variations on Q, etc. I’m enjoying it more than BBQ Pitmasters, as that show stages a competition just for purposes of the show, and they make up a few rules as they go along. Anyway, there are six episodes this season, filmed at: Rythym and Ribs BBQ Festival, Tifton, GA Olathe BBQ Championship, Olathe, KS Cedar Fest BBQ Cook-Off, Cedar Park,Texas @Displaced Texan, you'll get a kick out of this one Smoke on the Falls Competition, Gadsden, AL New Jersey KnoQ-Out, Blairstown, NJ Memphis in May, Memphis, TN The first three episodes have already aired, but they are re-running them, and they are probably available on demand. The one I’m really looking forward to is the one filmed in April, at the New Jersey KnoQ-Out competition in Blairstown, NJ. That was a full two-day competition, with 50 Masters teams (chicken, ribs, pork shoulder, brisket) plus a couple of dozen teams in the backyard division (chicken and ribs only). It airs on Monday August 8 at 9 pm.

It's not RPO any more either. FOP won a Court case recently that struck that down.

They don't update it, mine still says the same thing and my LPD has already approved my application and sent it to the Superior court for the judge to sign off.

Bird nesting and raccoon's love to nest under panels on roof. Get nest barriers,

What is the IdentoGo status that denotes confirmation of prints being sent to the requesting authority? What I see says Enrollment Received. I had them done on Friday. Thanks!

I tend to overthink things. Can I request an overlay?

MeWe is shutting down gun related groups. The new one is called NJ & PA NJGFS ROD CLUB (AKA THE REFUGE). In the chat they have other backups. Including something called Keybase, which seems to me to be similar to Discord.

I’m sure the head of this department, who’s career depends on “success” will be level headed and apply common sense to the “civil actions” his office brings.

I dropped my packet off at the Toms River PD Tuesday 7/19/22 and all my references got a phone call that Friday. BTW, the instructor at Shooters is actually named on the NJSP site under ranges that offer classes for qualifying. He is retired NJSP. The lead time for the fingerprints and qualifying has taken the longest so far.

Same. Paperwork dropped off and fingerprinting completed 7/25/22. Now it's a waiting game.

Application dropped off and paperwork accepted on 7/12/2022, fingerprinted on 7/22/22. Identogo took me a whole of 10 minutes with an appointment, damn shame it took so long to get an appointment. Now I'm in the trenches with the rest of you...

My PD told me I do not have to appear in court unless there is a denial! I'm in Middlesex.

I can see why you see humor in it, but the reason I chose HQC1 is for my own liability protection. If someone I sign off for is involved in an incident and manages to hit something or someone they were not supposed to I anticipate an inquiry from the police about how/why I signed off. I feel that if I can point to the same CoF that NJSP use I will be better off than using a CoF I made up on my own. Also, it is possible to pass HQC1 without any hits at 25 yards and I find it hard to believe that anybody is that poor a shooter.

Thanks for the ammo and nice meeting ya. Thanks for giving me the tour of OBRPC too. Hope u got good range time today.

Precisely because it IS NJ, an unfriendly 2a state, where it's in your BEST INTEREST to show proficiency. Also, let's be frank, if you can't figure out a flipping passport photo for your application, should you *really* be carrying a firearm? I know I am harping on this, but I am like holy hell batman....

The right answer is that granny doesn't have to qualify at all because you don't have to pass tests to exercise constitutionally protected rights. Unfortunately we are going to have to do what NJ is requiring if we want to stay out of jail but it is odd to me that we have people here, on a pro gun forum, advocating for more difficult tests.

I think it's not the process, it's the qualifiers.....that is what the hangup is from what I am reading. There is interpretation of the requirements, that may seem ambiguous. This should be expected, not tolerated, but expected till it gets sorted out. Additionally, I did not multi quote, and this is not meant for you, but I think with firearms it's better to fly below the radar, in lieu of projecting a very large signature. Threats of suits, damming letters lawyers oh my.... what a great way to alienate and put a bullseye on your back. Now I am not saying roll over, but jeez....walk a bit softly..

Good will? LoL. A number of towns are already approving and squared away. This process isn't new, at all. It's just that regular people get to do it now. To say the town has never done it, I doubt it very much. MANY towns are accepting the passing qualifications and processing permits. Why should any towns PD get to simply delay a process? I'm also not sure what guidance they are waiting on? And how long they plan to wait. If the PDs can't get their shit together, it's not mine or yours job to do it for them. So yes, a properly penned letter of intent from a lawyer is typically how you get shit done in this respect. Call up NJ2AS ANJRPC, see if they are willing to help, they literally have written dozens of letters sent to municipalities to get into compliance with FPIDs. They have 60 days to figure it out... 2 months is a pretty long time when they could just call the NJSP, or NJ AG if they really can't figure it out themselves....

You do you bruh. Let us know how it works out for ya after you put them coppers in their place.

I read that as "either". He also uses "alternative requirements". That tells me he is calling for ONE of those.

Walmart down about 10% in after hours trading. Slashes 2nd quarter and full year outlook. More cracks in the levee. Couple this with the housing market cooling off, interest rates set to rise by at least another .75% later this week, more companies announcing layoffs and hiring freezes and it could be a bumpy week. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/walmart-warning-stock-price-recession-worries-205538127.html

Since this is the qualification thread... I noticed that the above certification list factory ammo type. I was unaware that this might be a requirement. Just curious if any of the other certification sheets also list ammo? I was actually planning on using reloads for the qualification, since all of my guns shoot best with my recipe. For carry ammo, I would re-sight the guns listed on my qualification for duty ammo; but otherwise it would be much too expensive to practice/train with. FWIW - I hate using "cheap" range ammo; poor accuracy, inconsistent recoil, dirty as hell, muzzle flash, smokey, etc..