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The artist formerly known as prince

From FB: 45 days start to finish. Hudson County. Restricted to listed pistols.

All well and good, however, this ragtag community of gun owners needs to gain as much ground as fast as possible. I too will take what I can but I’m not satisfied with everything that Bruen has given us in theory and that NJ is doing in practice. If we sit back with a piece of the win, then NJ will oblige us and squeeze our rights down. Ocean and Monmouth county courts need to be made an example of in the most extreme manner possible. They need to humiliated and slapped down so other judges will not follow. Thanks

It's not required for a Permit to Carry a Handgun. Police qualification, retired police qualification, and P2C all have their own unique rules and the PD's get them mixed up. NJAC 13:45-2.4 lists 3 ways you can qualify and you need any one of the three, not more than one. completion of a firearms training course just like the police take. submission of qualifications scores using the handgun you intend to carry done with a certified firearms instructor. passage of a test on the State's laws governing use of force. by a certified firearms instructor. You need only one, not two, not three. Google the law above for more details.

Carry has never been allowed in NJ so we can make up hundreds of scenarios where nothing is specifically documented. People can go crazy with scenario after scenario, but they're all imaginary at this point. Bottom line, BE AN ADULT and use your brain. If you're unsure about the legality of bringing your pistol somewhere then either leave it home or don't make the trip. If you're concerned about someone seeing you holster up after riding your motorcycle to the middle of a busy shopping center, then don't go.

https://www.rtsponline.com/use-of-force-training/?mc_cid=fc7e98a0ca&mc_eid=ead8b9d474

Seems like the courts and the judges would be in the best position to know what the law requires them to do. Who would the courts get direction from about how to follow the law if they're the branch in charge of interpreting the law?

I'm not looking for an easy way to obsolve myself from training or responsibility. I'm the kind of person who locks his car door twice then tries the handle to make it sure it's locked. Maybe it's OCD, paranoia, call ot whatever you will. I feel safer with a safefy engaged when I'm flagging my privates.

That's more to do with operator error, than a gun issue. Relying on a manual safety to save you from incorrect gun/holster manipulation is not the answer, IMO.

I am now reconsidering my choice of carry pistols. I love my VP9, and I'm sure I will love the VP9SK. But if I'm going to carry AIWB, I don't feel confortable with a loaded striker fired pistols pointing at my junk. I know, I'm paranoid, but that's just the way I am. So I'm now considering the P30SK da/sa with safety. I'm an HK junkie, and I'm used to this exact setup with my USP45 V1. As a matter of fact I am also considering getting an HK45C da/sa with safety for the colder months.

As per your GFH instructor that document was given to you as a FYI only. GFH didn’t say that document was to accompany your application. The link below instructs you want to turn in with your application, they need no more and no less.... https://www.nj.gov/oag/njsp/firearms/pdf/Permit_To_Carry_Instructions.pdf

No, I'm pragmatic in my approach to it. I've lived most of my adult life in NJ where I was not able to carry a pistol. That meant that if I wanted to go anywhere outside my home I could not carry a pistol with me. I didn't cower in fear because I didn't have a pistol on me. I lived my life. Being able to carry a pistol doesn't change my life at all. If I get a permit I'll carry when i feel it's necessary. For now I'll have to accept that there are limitations to where/when/how I'll be able to carry. Those limitations will be constantly challenged in court (and many likely overturned) but until then I'll follow the law. Wringing my hands and complaining about where I CAN'T carry at this point seems absurd to me.

I think you're missing the whole point of having a PTC.

Charles practiced.

It’s just card stock and printed on a laser printer, so no.

Congratulations!

Mine too

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You have that backwards. You need to submit the whole packet including quals. The quals must have been shot in the previous 6 months.

Today my money order got cashed (submitted application 8/16), I called Somerville court criminal devision which is mine for the Franklyn Township and lady said - around one month more to wait because tons of applications in process and it is new/extra job for them. Nothing else, she said - we are preparing for the judge and when approved she will call me to comeover and pickup permit same place. I asked is anyone got approved - not yet she said but soon....

The qual certificate from Shooters states that instruction was provided on deadly force.

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I'll be looking for the guy that's hopefully not printing :-)

Football season oldie The Husband and Wife were getting ready to go to bed, as they laid there the husband got some gas pains and let go a fart, the wife asked what was that ..? The husband responded we are palying fart foot ball and the score is 7-0 , the wife later passed a fart and said score in 7-7 tie ... The husband got up and walked around, laid back down and let go another fart, said to his wife 14-7 , I'm winning ... The wife pushed all she could and let go another fart, said to her husband score now 14-14, little while later the wife let go a little tiny fart, she said Field goal , 17-14 ... The husband pushed and finally let out a juicy fart with chunks in it, the wife asks what the hell is that , husband says 1/2 time change sides.

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I am getting one like this fro my Ram as soon as I get approved, I suspect it will be there a lot of times https://www.amazon.com/Tuffy-Security-Console-Insert-compatible/dp/B07Q2FN3WY/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=uyc0k&content-id=amzn1.sym.8cf3b8ef-6a74-45dc-9f0d-6409eb523603&pf_rd_p=8cf3b8ef-6a74-45dc-9f0d-6409eb523603&pf_rd_r=YWENC8CX1FV6M40WEA4E&pd_rd_wg=y8vP4&pd_rd_r=b4289263-6adb-421d-927b-318e206a62c5&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mi

Trying out my new 60cm target thrower.

Was thinking about that as a carry as I love my VP9. So accurate.

IMO - If you are carrying a gun, you should always have an extra mag, comms (cell phone works here) and a flashlight (cellphone does not work here) on you, minimal. A second spare mag and some kind of medical, including a TQ, is also good to have nearby (at least in a bag in your vehicle) if not on your person. Everyone has their own take on it. You do what makes you feel prepared.

Gun for Hire gave me a 'Deadly Force rules' paper to sign and turn in to the PD, but when I turned in my package the guy in Hoboken refused to take it and said it was not required. No matter what I said, he just kept handing it back so I kept it.