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Reviewing multiple threads, forums, websites, etc. I think I got a good feel of the status as of today (9/12/2022) Edit 9/13 - At least 1 person got theirs in Monmouth County (but this may be from the 2021 FPC Lawsuit) Atlantic County - No (Court Delay) Bergen County - Yes (restricted by HG) Burlington County - Yes (not sure of restrictions) Camden County - Yes (Not sure of restrictions) Cape May County - No (Court waiting on Guidance) Cumberland County - Yes (No restrictions) Essex County - No (PD Delays) Gloucester County - Yes (Must appear before Judge [Zoom], Restricted by HG) Hudson County - Yes (Restricted by HG) Hunterdon County - Yes (Restricted by HG on Court Order) Mercer County - No (Court Delay) Middlesex County - No (Court Delay - Judge Absence?) Monmouth County - Yes - 1 (Special case from FPC Lawsuit - Restricted by HG + Additional restrictions) - Court Delays/Additional Investigations on new applications Morris County - Yes (Restricted by HG) Ocean County - Yes (May be Restricted - with extreme restrictions including Car Carry) Passaic County - Yes (Restricted by HG) Salem County - No Somerset County - No (Court delay from "high volume") Sussex County - No (Court Delay) Union County - No (Court possibly waiting on Objection time period) Warren County - Yes (Unrestricted) - Some permits issued but now court is delaying

Its great to see so many new people to this forum. Through this topic. I suggest you all. Try some idpa. Uspsa or icore matches. It will. Improve your firearms shooting abilities. It will humble you in your abilities. And make you more aware. And more proficient

Respect is earned, and a Judge who willfully disregards the law deserves none.

There are already examples of disregarding the law. Cannot carry in a vehicle - illegal Can only carry specific handguns - illegal Placing restrictions on a permit without holding a hearing to allow the applicant to address the Judge's concerns - illegal Openly refusing to process any applications - illegal

It was on the shelf with the .380mm guns.

Prosecutors as well as the people working in their offices don’t make nearly as much as they could the private sector either. Nor do politicians. Or soldiers. It’s service, they make a choice to forgo money in order to serve. As far as respecting them, that should be on an individual basis. Judges who knowingly break the law and infringe on our rights should be taken off of the bench and shamed in the streets.

Honestly - I believe the Strikeforce is aware of what's happening in ALL counties.

Aside from the order of restrictions given to you by a judge upon receipt of your permit there is no law prohibiting you from carrying in any location that serves alcohol including bars or restaurants.. However it is frowned upon to carry inside a bar.

POINT 9mm ??? LCP ELEVEN ??? .380mm ??? Mode ??? Fucking Idiots

"No carrying OR riding in ANY motor vehicle". You cant even go on the bus or train with these restrictions. Absolute bullshit.

Your PD approved about 23 days after references received and well with 60 days of the initial application. PD did what they were supposed to do. You are in your 7th day of 30 at Middlesex Superior Court.

As usual New Jersey can't do anything sensibly. On the permit image above (and others posted) the statements of fact seem to be: 1. Your permit is Unrestricted. (The box is checked.) 2. You qualified with a S&W, Ruger, and Bersa. (How nice. But the 'See Below' box is not checked.) Nowhere does it say you may only carry the firearms listed. And the statute says your permit is valid for any firearm you legally own. I'm sure the only reason I read this that way is because I am not a lawyer. Or a member of NJ court apparatus.

There would be no legal argument to be made. Nothing in written law says that if the Superior Court doesn't issue your permit after receiving your application within 30 days you are automatically issued one or that you can carry without a permit. You will simply be charged with unlawful possession of a handgun if caught. The 60 day time frame for police stations is written into law however nobody really knows how that works in practice. Meaning, what do you do if they take longer? Show up to the courthouse with receipts and ask them to process? Good luck with that peasant! If the 60 day police time frame and 30 day court timeline really worked than Jay Factor would have automatically had a permit in his hand after his 2019 application. I can't remember the exact number of days but it was over 200 days for a denial if I remember correctly. Definitely substantially longer than 60 days plus 30 days. Again, NJs timelines are meaningless. They have been blowing them off for years and they will continue to do so untill automatic issuance is law or there are consequences for not meeting their timelines. Someone who applies for their permit and than their police station goes over 60 days will need to file a lawsuit in order to get a NJ court to lay out some type of resolution on how this works in practice. Someone may also be able to contact the NJ supreme court about what to do if the 30 day court timeline is blown. However because this is just a directive and is not written into law, I doubt anything meaningful will come of this. Maybe I'm wrong, and hopefully so.

How are the consequences for violating NJ gun law not considered cruel and unusual punishments? A punishment prohibited by the 8th amendment to the US constitution. Think about this, someone with no criminal history who is eligible to own and purchase firearms could accidentally drop a hollow point .22lr in their truck bed, trunk, or between their seat not even realizing they did so. They are pulled over on their way home for a minor traffic violation and wind up being searched for some reason. All of a sudden, boom they are charged with "A Fourth Degree Felony Charge Punishable by 18 Months in Prison" They loose their job, their house, their 2a rights in the entire country, they are now convicted felon for their entire life!!! Their entire life is ruined. All over something that they didn't even mean to do... All over something that is protected by their constitutional rights. NJ gun law needs to completely dismantled!!!!

LOL and congress only makes 120k and are all just humble servants. When you're in a position of power you learn how the scams, the revolving door and the kick backs work. Even the lowly serf state employees have ways of making bank , when you're bored check out the overtime and such these people get. Don't fall for that public servant crap they do a lot better than private and get pension to boot. Payroll Explorer | NJOIT Open Data Center

Keep it in your purse.

I knew this would happen in Middlesex. This place is the worst

They have guidance. The AG said process as before but without justifiable need. The NJ Supreme Court issued their directive in 2019 about not going over 30 days. These laws have been on the books for decades. There is nothing unclear. If the permit is approved by police after they confirm you meet all requirements the judge signs it. SHALL ISSUE is the law. Anyone who is holding this up is directly and personally responsible for deprivation of rights.

I’ve already notified strikeforce. Not involving strada yet. Waiting for word from ANJRPC’s counsel as they would know how best to handle this. AFAIK there are a few counties who are pulling this same tactic. Essex most notably.

I called Sussex court today and they told me that they received my application but that all applications are being held because they are waiting on guidance from the state. This is extremely odd given that Morris has issued permits and they are the same vicinage. So the theory about a judge refusing to sign seems plausible.

You can add Sussex to the list of counties that are just sitting on applications and not approving. I called the court today and they told me that they are “waiting on guidance or something” and haven’t approved any permits and that the applications are just sitting in a box. I have notified strikeforce and Dan Schmutter is on it.

Oh, thats because CCW holders are well known for firing randomly out the windows of cars, buses and trains.

Yup, all these restricted places will be added targets for criminals. Now they'll know places to hit and not worry about running into someone with a PTC.

Even in this terrible state I can’t see them charging you with the same felony charges for carrying a firearm without your PtC card as if you didn’t have the PtC in the first place. But I don’t doubt for a second that you’ll be taking a ride and having an unpleasant night. So if I lost my card, I would be very worried to carry until I got a new one.

Welcome aboard! BTW, don't take the bait and try to answer any questions about the name of a certain meat product. You'll alienate half the membership here, no matter how you answer.

While not getting into the drivel of gun-games vs. training; action shooting WILL do a few things that are beneficial to CCW holders. Improve gun handling, muzzle awareness, safety, etc.. Make you more comfortable with holster draw and reholstering, reloading, malfunctions Vet your choice of equipment/handguns Expose you to seldom practiced scenarios (shooting while moving, moving targets, low/no light, kneeling/prone, strong/support hand, etc..

Where did you find a .9mm firearm?

Yes, on the back, shows no restrictions, see court order not checked, yet the court order letter comes with it.

Nobody knows what happens after 30 days in the courthouse with no action by the judge. But I know one thing for certain: I do not want to get stopped carrying a gun without a written permit and have to rely on arguing to the Police Officer, prosecutor, judge, jury or appeals court that I should not be convicted because the judge waited more than 30 days to sign my permit.

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My update for Union County.

8:00 AM: 9/12/2022 2226 submissions are currently in the queue. We are working on (Wednesday) 9/07/2022 work. Feel free to share this information with your customers. Please remember that a dealer may not transfer a firearm to an individual without first receiving the unique State Transaction Number (STN) provided through a NICS check. Please be patient as we continue to work on the back log, Thank you NICS UNIT

Morris County - Yes - restricted by HG

Why does NJ have to screw up everything including the FID and Permit to Carry card physical size? Seriously can they do anything correct!? How idiotic is it that they can't just make them the same size as your driver's license? Why are they asking for passport photos when they don't wind up on the permit? Is there anything even in the law mandating that your must have the permit on you while carrying? Obviously this would be the best practice however say you forgot your wallet at home. I wonder what would happen...

As I recall Guns for Hire in West Paterson not only asked to see my FID but wouldn't give it back until I was done fondling, the guy also wouldn't let me dry fire a S&W striker fired. I won't be going there again..

Sure. I've been looking to do that. No idea who offers it up here. If you could point me in that direction I would appreciate it. I am also going for my instructor certs so I can (among other things) qualify people for their permit to carry.

That Sears is now closed and they were using it as a Covid testing center. Was a nice mall till the ghetto trash came up South Orange Ave. from the Newark area.

That is about all he said about it. I was there. 2 weeks we should have an update.

Maybe y'all can get something like this and wear it around your neck.

All while praying that you don't have a failure to feed, have enough space to manipulate the slide without short stroking, and...having 1 less round available to you.

NJ, CA, NY, MD not issuing carry permits was ruled "constitutional" until SCOTUS said it wasn't! Ask yourself this... Do you think the founders of our country would have thought that obtaining permits to speak or obtaining permits to buy and carry arms would have been okay? Absolutely not! The constitution doesn't say you have freedom of speech or the right to keep and bear arms AFTER the government gives you permission. The constitution literally puts limits on the government from doing this very thing! BTW this is a conceptual annalists, under our current overreaching government you are correct....

Nobody says that. Also, nobody says that drawing, finding something solid enough to rack the gun on, racking the gun, then presenting the gun is as efficient as drawing the gun and then immediately presenting the gun. Also, his ability to reload is meaningless with respect to his ability to get the gun into the fight initially. It might only be relevant if he was starting with no mag in the gun either, but nobody is that afraid of an ND, I'm sure.

It's in my wife's purse.

Timelines for issuance are useless without consequences for those who don't follow them. Why should they care? New Jersey never followed their timelines before. Just look at the history of FID and P2Ps...

You’re right. Have a nice day.

Just had my hearing in Burlington County. Judge confirmed I’m the first in our county. Just asked to confirm make and model. Read restricted places to me. Carry IS NOT restricted in our vehicles. Said he’s signing today and putting in the mail and that I should have physical permit by the end of the week but that I am approved.

I know to a lot of people, me included, guns stores are like barber shops. You stick with the one that does it the way you like. The ones that don't do it the way you like, you don't go back.

1st off, name the place. 2nd, I wouldn't buy a thing from them until they took the time to actually learn what the laws in this State are. 3rd. If they are going to be this paranoid, they should have never opened a gun shop. I won't set foot inside of RSTP because of their redicoulus policy that you need to show your FID to pick up your already legally owned gun that was in for gunsmithing/warranty work. Fuck them.