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True, my mistake I thought I posted in the correct location. I have removed the post and placed it where it belongs.

So basically any soft-target area where you would most likely need it. Nice.

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My application is finally complete. Submitted in Morris County. I got the fingerprints done in-state early this evening. The 'book-an-out-of-state-appointment-then-reschedule-for-the-NJ-appointments-that-magically-unlock' hack worked. The Springfield Identogo was empty; one employee working, so 5 of the 6 fingerprint cubicles were shut down. I forgot to ask if they take walk-ins, but he did volunteer that the've been doing a lot of fingerprinting for carry permits. My all-in costs were just over $300; big bucks, just to exercise a constitutional right. $51.65 USPS Money Order $0.53 passport-style photos, 4x4 collage print at Walgreens $4.20 postage, two references over an hour away, so I mailed the forms around. $191.91 Qualification, full HQC-1, 4 guns, at ReloaderzNJ before their last price increase $0 Notarization, included at ReloaderzNJ, though I used my bank $57.38 Fingerprinting, in-state -- Lots of ammo expended. Priceless! All reloads, and I would have been shooting anyway. $305.67 Total. Not counting perhaps 70 miles of driving around, mostly to get to ReloaderzNJ and Identogo. And now, I wait.

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Just received a call form the Monroe County Sheriff's office. They are mailing me a form that has to be signed by my police department and also notarized. Quick action at least. 2 days.

Also tucked in there: "c. Rifles and shotguns. (1) Any person who knowingly has in 25 his possession any rifle or shotgun without having first obtained a 26 firearms purchaser identification card in accordance with the 27 provisions of N.J.S.2C:58-3, is guilty of a crime of the third degree. 28 (2) Unless otherwise permitted by law, any person who 29 knowingly has in his possession any loaded rifle or shotgun is 30 guilty of a crime of the third degree." ------ Got that fudds and hunters? Now you're going to have to get one and they're change the rules to get one soon.

Guys the purpose of this thread is to express one's experience in applying for a carry permit, let's try to stick to the topic please.

"jUsT CaLL tHe pOliCe"

"If it seems like a soft-target it is and will continue to be." May as well be what the bill reads.

Should be fixed now

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No. The candidates negotiate the dates, times and rules for debates unless somebody like the DAR or another organization sets it up and invites candidate. But, that is usually for primaries. Yes, candidates with a lead in the polls want the debate as late as possible because if you are already ahead, the debate can only hurt or be neutral for you. In the current crop, the Democrats are pushing for the latest possible data because they don't want their stances on some issues to be exposed to daylight until AFTER their base has cast their ballots. I've been hoping that at some point, voters will realie this and begin voting later and/or limiting early voting.

Good guy with a gun is arrested in Baltimore after stopping a would-be shooter. He says he's NOT going to accept a plea deal and will be fighting charges: "After Marine veteran Lloyd Muldrow stopped an attack by an armed assailant at a Baltimore bar, police officers thanked him — and then they arrested him. Now the Good Samaritan credited with saving a man’s life faces up to a year in prison, charged with violating a city ordinance that forbids bringing handguns within 100 feet of a public building, even though he neutralized the attack without drawing his pistol. Mr. Muldrow, a North Carolina security specialist, holds a concealed weapons permit, but it was issued in Virginia, not Maryland. Even so, he has no intention of accepting a plea deal when he appears at his Oct. 31 hearing in Baltimore Circuit Court." https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/sep/2/good-samaritan-faces-charges-after-stopping-armed-/ It will be interesting to see how the case turns out in light of Bruen. If he successfully fights the charges it could have an impact on state reciprocity...

Current "new normal" pricing for 147gr NATO surplus is between.70 to .95 cpr., depending on where you look. Add $30 for the can and bandoleers.

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Wayne needs some new suits!

IDPA is dead at SCFGPA - the board there decided we were no longer welcome for reasons not attributable to us, but that's as much as I'll say. (Mum taught me that if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing) I am now running IDPA at Phillipsburg Pistol Club. We have our match on the 3rd Wednesday each month. Find the match registration here: https://practiscore.com/search/matches?query=phillipsburg

Check out Dixon Muzzleloading Shop in Kempton, PA. Tell them Rosey sent you! ~R

Well here is some good news for a change. Have a few friends from different towns in Passaic County that were contacted today (via phone) to report to courthouse on Monday to pick up their permits......

A date which will live in infamy..

Actually Under the statute it is the applicant who is to present the police department approved application to the Superior Court. Seems to me that this is never done in practice and it is the Police Department who sends the approved application to the court. I have no idea how an applicant would in practice present their own approved application to the court and I am really unsure how the applicant would present to the court an application that was deemed approved because the police department took no action after 60 days.

I got a call back from a detective at the FIU. They received my permit from the court on 9/16 and sent it out via inter-office mail (aka the pony express) the same day. Hopefully it won't get lost. The detective was very helpful and we chatted about the whole mess for a while. He gave me his personal cell number if I run into any more problems. The FIU only has 7 staff to cover the whole State and they are being inundated. I feel sorry for them because they are gun guys and the senior management are just not providing the manpower to handle the workload. My app was one of the first 10 that came through their office so I'm a bit of a trail blazer. He did say that there are definitely definitely things in the works to get PCH into FARS.

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This is what we have heard from Middlesex County

Can't catch 'em all - I usually look at the activity feed. Feel free to report a thread so we can move it... but yes - political posts/rants/etc - we don't want to see in the PUBLIC area of the forums that others (outsiders, guests, search engines, etc) can find.

Sure, it took 69 tries... and it sounds like this might be hard to repeat... but still, pretty damn remarkable if you ask me! I thought you precision rifle shooters might enjoy reading this, if you hadn't already seen it: New World Record Set for Farthest Long-Range Rifle Shot: 4.4 Miles (msn.com)

FIFY. There's been a system in place for a long time now. This is clearly obstruction and all participants should be held responsible for interfering with a Constitutional right.

My gun identifies as invisible I guess.

Curious to see who gets exempted. Police of course. Armored car drivers? Campaign donors and other "more equal" people?

My take on carrying a 22. If that's all one could handle that's what you carry. End of story. If you look at the Lucky Gunner ammo tests there's really little difference in penetration between 22lr, 22mag, and 25acp. I'd pick a solid, probably a CCI Mini Mag, for better penetration. The CCI ammo runs well in all my semiautomatics. A revolver makes sense but if I'm carrying a j frame size revolver it's in 38 spl most of the time. Other times it's a 32 long or a 327 mag loaded with 32 H&R magnum. Both have adequate penetration. 327s have way too much penetration even in a 2". If I'm carrying a 22 rf or 25 auto it's usually a backup to my main battery. Stopping power is limited with a 22 or 25. Tactically, you need to shoot your opponent until they go down. 4,5,6 times if needed. Not an IPSC double tap. You may have to shoot a bag guy 4,5,6 times even with a 9mm, 40, or 45. Another problem with small guns is bad guys sometimes don't believe they're real guns. I know of an instance where the bad guy pulled a knife on an undercover. There was some distance between them. The undercover pulled a 25 auto. The bad guy didn't believe it was a real gun until the U/C cranked a round into the sofa. The bad guy dropped his knife. Nobody wants to get shot, even with a 25. FWIW

Today my son in law told me that his permit is approved, but the Lacey Police told him you are not allowed to carry in your vehicle. I don't think that can be true. Anyone hear about this?

What I have noticed too, is there is a difference in response between the police and the courts. Some courts more open to issuing then others. Some police more open and helpful in accepting applications then others as well. Huge mismatch. Also one should take a lot at the pollution densities of each county and the balance of one county with another county and how they rate red or green. one thing I would like to point out, is several have mentioned a green county that should be red. Green counties are green because there have been permits issued in those counties. Or at least reported as issued. Where as a red county has yet to report any permits being issued yet. Example… Salem county is reported to have a population of about 64k, 48k registered voters. Of which 31% are democrat, and 30% are Republican. However their state local senator and both local state reps for their state government are all Republican. That being said, Salem county has yet to issue a permit to carry.

87 octane is running $2.93/gallon in my area

And BOOM! Dow down 400 @ 9:59 at $29,670.

https://abc7.com/karen-bass-home-burglary-arrests-break-in/12230761/ For breaking in and stealing to guns. Both men were booked into jail for residential burglary. Munoz is being held on $500,000 bail, while Espinoza is being held without bail. https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/man-who-killed-republican-teenager-over-political-argument-is-free-on-bail/ For killing someone. Man Who Killed Republican Teenager Over ‘Political Argument’ Is Free on Bail

At least your in Morris and looks like they are issuing permits. take a look at Mercer, tomorrow will be 70 calendar days or 49 work days for me. Looks like half the counties dragging their feet according the Krdshrk's map.

Today I heard from the police source of my friends that judges are waiting for some directionts from the DA. We will see many unhappy people soon, they are not moving these judges. Especially when qualification will expire.