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The most important thing to remember is that the machine we're dealing with are not our friends. They may be cordial; but they seem to almost universally have contempt for anyone who wants permits. I've had some friendly conversations with the cogs, but inevitably they out themselves by action or lack thereof.

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Picked up my permit from Union County from my local PD. No restrictions is checked only thing is my handgun model and serial# is printed on the card. My PD mailed it over and was recived the by the courts on Aug 22nd they approved on 9/30 and sat for a few days till last Thursday when one of the probabtion officers mailed out a batch of them. Took a little longer than I wished but still pretty painless after getting all the documentation filled out. No resistance from my local PD.

How so? A declaration means absolutely nothing, it actually could be worse since you are now conspiring to break the law and are notifying the authorities to such illegal activities. A case moves forward one of two ways, either you petition the court its violating your rights(and maybe they accept the case), which now requires you to hire a lawyer to petition and litigate the case, OR are charged with violating the law. The only "correct way" is the former, the latter is exactly what would occur under your proposal. Either way you are paying a shit ton of money for a lawyer. Under NO circumstances should you ever admit you plan on breaking the law, or are already breaking it.

Quality also.

Ahhh, the good ol days..

So a serious question…. You guys have to carry that/those pages as well as the permit correct? Assuming it would breed to be originals not copies…. How does one carry those without them degrading? Mens European carryall?

Update: Form received on 9/30. Brought to local PD the same day. Form picked up from local PD on 10/7. Mailed back to Monroe county Sheriff same day and they received it yesterday 10/11. Received a call today from Monroe county sheriff to set up appointment for pickup. 10/27 10:30am.

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Yes, but I'm not sure that applies here, but why would you ever notify authorities of your Intent to break a law? It can only hurt you, and in this case if you don't win in court it could be disastrous for sentencing. At that point you can't even argue if charged that the law is unclear and confusing when it says "one permit for all handguns owned".

Finally, congrats!!

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I submitted a copy of my court order(Gloucester) and there was no issue.

It is not same day. you can apply in person but they will make you come back after approval to pick up.

Significant difference in price for a range toy...

Well I am not going to be a test case. So I’ll qualify with the guns I sang to carry. The order says that particular gun.

Not sure where the OP is located but he said he reached out to JCP&L so he must be in their coverage area. I've used Green Power Energy out of Ewing before. They are licensed in NJ, Connecticut and PA. They came all the way down to Salem County to install my system. They do good work. Another resource to get multiple quotes to upgrade your system is www.energysage.com This website allows you to enter the property address and some simple information about the existing electrical system and contractors that service your area can put together a proposal and a quote. One of the main benefits of this site is that the contractors can only contact you through this site. To have them reach you by phone or email, you have to specifically select to have your personal info shown to a contractor who submitted a proposal. Once you accept a proposal, the other contractors can no longer contact you since their bid was not accepted. Another benefit is the contractors all provide a proposal based on the same set of criteria. That way you are comparing apples to apples. The attached is what the basic proposal info includes, but each one has much more detail once you open it. The site gives the contractor the ability to add photos, equipment specs and manuals, energy usage and production graphs, as well as financial charts, but it puts you in control and makes it easier to find someone to get your job done.

Entirely up to the judge. The prosecutor, if involved, may recommend one. But it’s up to the judge.

PD. If you have a local PD, they do all investigation and forward to the court. If you’re like me and live in a town with no local police, NJSP local barracks will do the initial intake, forward down to the division (FIU) in West Trenton and then to the court.

Every PD handles their own investigation. NJSP is only involved for those who live in a rural municipality without it's own PD. In that case, NJSP is the local PD.

Have you tried reaching out to your electrical code official in your municipality? They may have some ideas. Also, an electrician with solar experience should be able to provide you some answers. I recently upgraded the electrical service to my home to 200A service. The electrician did a great job. He's in south jersey, so I don't know if that's any help.

Applied on Friday, received approval today. Pickup on Thursday. York county so it’s a drive but Delaware county would be a drive plus I get to wait longer. I go to PA often as I live near the border, and every trip there to shop or just hang out is a pain in the neck now. Plus it gives me a few more states as backup to FL and UT. So I’m glad to get it ASAP. If you’re willing to drive, York is a good alternative.

Process for adding guns in Sussex is the same as other counties - letter to amend, stating the gun info (make, model, caliber, serial number), proof of ownership (executed permit, sales receipt or notarized letter) and qualification sheet. Send all to the court and copy your PD. They’ll issue an updated order. Since the permit doesn’t list firearms you won’t get a new one.

Yes. Legal. I have one. Not very useful. Spork of firearms. But lots of fun.

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All these courts cant figure out one way to do it all the same...gov at its finest. I have confirmation mine was received by the court on 9/9 yet they didnt cash it until 9/29. With how money hungry this state is im surprised they didnt rip the package open and ruin the packet to get the money the second they saw that packet come in.

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carry as often as you can you cant predict when you'll need it.

this is actually helpful to us as it shows the ineffetivness of our illegal laws. also, dude was probably back out on the street before the cops shift was over.

Here's mine for Marlboro PD: 08/02 - Submitted to MPD 08/23 - Got PD approval email and sent to the court 09/23 - Got email from MCPO sent to the Judge without any objections. Letter dated 09/20. 10/11 - Still waiting

He was a prohibited person. It does help our cause... actually.

So heres my timeline for Marlboro PD... 8/26- Submitted to my PD 9/13- Got PD approval email and sent to courts 9/30- Got emailed letter from Monmouth Prosecutors office to the judge that they don't have any objection At this point I'm guessing I'm just waiting for Judge to sign off

I understand your disagreement however there is no state that has a qualification any where near as difficult as NJ's. Everywhere else you get a permit, or not in 26 states it is your responsibility to learn how to use your tools in a safe and professional manner should the need arise. If you make a mistake you will be held accountable. I got good not because I got a PTC but because I wanted to be good. That doesn't mean I did not have the right to protect myself just because I was average. I do encourage anyone who wants to carry to practice and practice and practice some more. I just don't think the NJ government should be setting the bar as high as it is when there is little evidence from the states that have more lenient standards that PTC holders are defending themselves and injuring innocent bystanders.

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