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Permit in-hand! I had my hearing this morning in Gloucester County. I received an email a couple weeks ago from the judge’s secretary telling me to appear. There were about a hundred people there for the morning session. There is another in the afternoon. They called in groups, township by township… biggest groups first. Washington Twp was the biggest with 31 people. I’m from Woolwich Twp, and was the third group. The judge said he already reviewed the applications, background checks and qualifications so this would go pretty quickly. He also said that if anyone wanted to add an additional gun later, they should send an original qualification to his secretary and he will issue an amended court order. There is no need to come back. He called each person up individually, in no obvious order. He swore us in and asked three questions: Are you (name)? When you filled out the application, we’re you truthful? Have any of the answers changed since then? I answered yes, yes, no. He asked the prosecutor if there was any objection, to which she answered no every time. He then said he’s approving the application for the guns I qualified with. He read out the make, model, caliber and serial number of each. The secretary came over to get me to sign the permit, and took it back to make a copy. Then I sat back down to wait. After a bunch of people went, the judge took a break. The secretary called off names and handed out permits and the court orders limiting us to the listed guns. The permit has See Court Order marked. I was there 9-11:30. It was 98 days. I submitted my application 8/10. No references were ever contacted. Permit number is in the mid 300’s.

Use your 4 digit municipal code of your residence. The one you put on your state income tax. https://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/pdf/lpt/cntycode.pdf

In my opinion, "they" don't trust themselves because they know how F'd up they are, and are projecting anxieties about themselves on everyone else. Basically they are saying they are scum bags so everyone else must be too.

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You know what an easy test for judges could be—- was it a sensitive place before Bruen ? If not, then it’s a no go.

Sounds just like the Democrat Party game plan, doesn't it?

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I'll see your bet and raise it, lol...actually, it sounds waaay over the top to me, like it's adding NO serious value to have a judge involved in the process at all, and even worse, by making these judges act essentially as a "rubber stamp" - it's taking their time away from focusing on other more important legal matters. They either need to get the courts out of the process altogether - or reserve them only for very limited, escalated cases where the police have some reasonable questions or concerns about the applicant and want a judge to weigh in. This current process seems utterly ridiculous. As a taxpayer, I hate to see waste and inefficiency like this.

sounds like quite an undertaking by the judge and a little over the top but at least you succeeded so good for you!

Congrats !!!

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on one hand, i wanna give em places like schools and courts....but on the other hand, WHY?? if i trust you with a gun, then i trust you with a gun. it's that simple. ccw holders ain't the ones shooting up places now are they?

MONDAY: CARRY-KILLER BILL MOVING IN FULL ASSEMBLY Please Keep Contacting Lawmakers! November 17, 2022. On Monday, November 21, legislation killing right to carry (A4769) is scheduled to move in the full Assembly voting session that begins at 2:00 p.m. The legislation is a thinly-veiled attempt to blatantly circumvent the U.S. Supreme Court’s ground-breaking Bruen decision and to utterly destroy right to carry in the Garden State. https://www.anjrpc.org/page/URGENTCarryKillerBillMovingMonday

They won't care.

Use a stall instead (carefully)?

Applied July 8th, Received October 24th. Yes, long wait time.

You can subscribe to the bills through the NJ legislature website. You have to subscribe to the Assembly(A4769) and Senate(S3214) bills separately.

I heard it from a guy who got his permit in October.

One of the CNJFO Committee chairs (Eric Saperstein) got his permit - he's in Mercer. Just got it a couple weeks ago. They're moving slow but they're moving.

Right, but he agreed that it could pertain to historic areas like schools, court houses, etc. What happened to the 2A clause "shall not be infringed". Here is what he said: "Although we have no occasion to comprehensively define “sensitive places” in this case, we do think respondents err in their attempt to characterize New York’s proper-cause requirement as a “sensitive-place” law. But expanding the category of “sensitive places” simply to all places of public congregation that are not isolated from law enforcement defines the category of “sensitive places” far too broadly. The Court’s answer is that judges will simply have to employ “analogical reasoning.” Ante, at 19–20. But, as I explained above, the Court does not provide clear guidance on how to apply such reasoning. " So, he opened the window a little bit, and NY and NJ stormed through it, like an army, with their sensitive lists. I think Thomas should have laid out SPECIFICALLY where the sensitive areas were (or none at all), versus leaving it a bit vague. By leaving it grey, or not going back to the original "shall not be infringed", is why we find ourselves in this situation now, and why the overreach by these certain governors. Thomas should have known, based on current events, that certain states don't honor the constitution, so he should have written his opinion in first grade, clear language, that couldn't be twisted or abused. Any chance he can go back and add a modification or correction to his opinion to help Murphy and Hochul understand better?

Just read through the entire amended bill from 11/14. There is only one worthy thing to note amongst the dumpster fire that is 4769.. They changed the definition of "holster". No more retention strap lingo. Great news chaps, you can wear your kydex to the mailbox... still. h. For purposes of this section, “holster” means a device or sheath that securely retains a handgun which, at a minimum, conceals and protects the main body of the firearm, maintains the firearm in a consistent and accessible position, and renders the trigger covered and inaccessible while the handgun is fully seated in the holster.

Had the same problem. Call the department you're submitting your app to and ask them.

Sorry I didn’t post this sooner. Union County here. Submitted application mid July. Received my PTC mid Oct. 96 total days. Under restrictions, “none” was checked off on the permit. The firearm I qualified with is listed on the permit. PD was great, kept me in the loop the entire time.

This. You beat me to it. And this too,

Thomas also specifically said that you can’t make the entire island of Manhattan a sensitive place. so that means you can’t make all of NJ or NY a sensitive place either, and especially not my vehicle.

Sensitive areas that coincide with the text, history, and tradition of the 2A. He specifically said you can't just arbitrarily go calling everything a sensitive place. There needs to be a historic analogue.

I'm just a realist, and look at the facts on the ground. I learned a long time ago, hope is not a strategy. I don't live in a fantasy of "what might be". Past history is a good teacher. Yes, it's great to fight the system, and there are some good groups involved. It's the track record in this state that is very telling. You have to know when to hold them and when to fold them, and where your energy is best expended. I know the mag limit restriction is being punted around in the lower court, but here we are, 4 years later, and still restricted. This should have been an easy one to overturn, but here we are. 4 years running with a easy issue. How long will the CCW sensitive restrictions be punted around in the courts?

Regarding the notion that courts that are “waiting on Murphy’s new gun law” - the latest version of A4769 says they have to process any permits still in process. Once that runs out they are done.

Where was "qualifying" noted in that statue? It says any "handgun owned", not "handgun qualified" with. I see no differentiation on make, model, caliber, etc., just "owned" as the qualifier.