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Update: 10/28 - Judge Signed off on Court Order/Permit 11/29 - PD Finally got Court Order/Permit and contacted me to pick up 11/29- Picked that sucker up!

heh

This is how someone else has been trying to get their (non-resident) PTC application processed by NJSP. This is NOT ME, I don't have any more info besides these letter copies:

Followup: Received an email from NJSP today. The email says that my application was sent to the courts 1 day before I wrote my letter. Quite a coincidence.

See attached template - change everything in yellow Blank Affidavit of Ownership.docx

Yeah I’ll just have them pick it up here. Ruger said they do this all the time. I asked them about the new rules and they didn’t seem to know anything about it. Just said UPS stopped taking rifles.

So I called Ruger today, they generated an RMA and created a call tag for UPS to come and pick up the pistol and ship it to them. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

He said they weren't sending back the entire application and that they needed HTPD to let them know if they contacted the references, and, if not, to let them know when it was done. It wasn't entirely clear on how they would be doing it but he did say there was a whole bunch of applications in this same situation. Also, it sounded like someone else in the court would be handling notifying HTPD. I will pass along any updates I am lucky enough to get.

For Hamilton/Mercer peeps ( @GodStrength @bennj), I just spoke to the court clerk, who was very nice. My references were never contacted, which I knew, so the court is sending a note back to the township to see if it was done, and if not, to do it. On the plus side he said, "other than that you are good to go." What that means time-wise once the township corrects their mistake is anyone's guess. FWIW, this also just happened to my father in Burlington County. Incompetence? Intentional?

My spare parts pile is dangerously close to critical mass. It has some good stuff in it.

Bold move.

Pretty much. If you are in Sussex/Morris/Passaic County (Wayne and environs) I can notarize for you for free. Let me know.

NJSP has an Office of Professional Standards. File a complaint with them. That may wake them up.

I filed my application through NJSP. I'm on day 117 and I haven't heard anything. I sent a letter to the Superintendent of NJSP on day 102 requesting an update on the status of my application and informing the superintendent that my application was deemed approved on day 61. The letter was picked up in Trenton two weeks ago. I can track the letter online but oddly, the return receipt was never sent back to me by USPS. But I have proof that it was picked up. I have received no response to my letter, just like I received no response to my emails I had sent to my local NJSP station before I sent the letter. I plan to contact the court to inform them that my application has been approved by the NJSP in early October. (61 days as per 2C:58-4). And asking the court to approve my application even if the NJSP won't comply with the law. I'm looking for some guidance in doing that. I don't mind doing the research but I don't even know where to start. Anybody know the legal process to notify the courts that it's time to approve my permit or at least point me to some document where I can figure out the process for myself? Thanks in advance.

This worked for me, I signed in front of the notary who then notarized name address city, state, zip phone email NJFPID #: I attest to legal ownership of the following handguns. Pistol Purchase Permits for each are on file with the NJSP and the (your town) Police Department. Manufacturer Model Serial # Smith & Wesson 4566 XXX1234 x _____________________________________

congrats

News out of Monmouth County via Jay Factor on FB Group New Jersey Firearms Owners Syndicate: https://www.facebook.com/groups/364613487270249/posts/1728971554167762/ His post rambles a bit, but I think the gist of it is: He had a pre-Bruen lawsuit appealing denial of his permit for justifiable need. Today he had his court hearing for the granting of his permit. He went with lawyer David Jensen. Jensen argued in court that there should be no court-ordered restrictions on the permit (such as limiting to qualified guns, etc.). The judge *AGREED*, and issued his permit with no restrictions or requirement to carry a copy of court order (and I'm assuming there were no court orders associated with the permit). Supposedly, under "equal protection", any Monmouth county PTC holder with court-ordered restrictions can now file a motion with Monmouth County court to have their restrictions removed. Possibly this will extend to PTC holders in other counties too. From his FB post:

Not to mention the complete bastardization of the Commerce Clause in the Constitution to translate it as permitting gun control.

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This can be arranged. Seriously.

Let us know when we can come down to help clear out the feral hogs from your land... yanno - because we just wanna kill stuff

While I don’t disagree with the notion of stopping human encroachment on bear habitats, hunting DOES serve a valuable purpose. Keeping a herd to a size that is suitable for its food supply, keeps animals from starving to death. Reintroducing species to areas where they had been driven, or hunted out (wolves in Montana/Colorado/Wyoming comes to mind) keeps a natural balance in place. Game, and predator management programs. Also the management of invasive species (such as feral hogs). In Texas, for example, feral hogs are a serious problem for both farmers/ranchers, AND game/non game species. They destroy habitat and food supply of many native animals (quail come to mind). They breed faster than we can gun them off. There are people out there who think that hunters have a ‘bloodlust’, but it It may surprise them to know that most hunters are actually conservationists.

73 days.

I had to stop extra parts seeding, crop rotation was destroying my finances.

That spare castle nut in your parts kit seems to be able to magically turn into a complete rifle…

Hamilton PD called me today. They sent my application back to the PD because they did not call my three references. He contacted my references this morning. Now I don't know what to expect. He assured me he is taking care of it today. Hopefully, I don't get placed at the bottom of the pile back at the court house. If so, I'm looking at nearly 200 days cumulative.

Yeah. I heard on the radio something about at least 1 environmental group filing suit because they were not kept in "the loop" or something like that.

There's a great discussion thread on pafoa.org about how google provided tracking info on cell phones on January 6 2021 in DC. https://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=392694