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"Transcription" (Really more notes) from an attendee to the TRO hearing:

I’m not saying that the system isn’t corrupt, I’m just saying instead of bitching about it, you should get involved in the process and work to change it. Bitching and crying doesn’t work. Never has and never will. My stepmom grew up in a small east Texas town. Lived there for most of her life. Her father was the town doctor, and she owned a very successful business in town. They had a lot of family roots and friends there, and are well respected in the community. Many years ago, she decided she wanted to give back to the community, and ran for, and was elected to 2 terms as the mayor. She told us how appalled she was at the level of corruption in the city government. The town council abused their positions to further their own interests, and line their pockets. It was unbelievable, and it greatly saddened her to find out how fucked up the town she was born and raised in really was. She did quite a bit to expose and eliminate a lot of it in her two terms as mayor, and brought about many beneficial changes to the community. When her two terms were up, she and my dad retired, and moved to Georgetown. Her successor did well in that town for two more terms, but his successor is, unfortunately, a turd. My point is, the system CAN be changed. It takes effort, and perseverance. if you are not willing to get involved, and make changes to your local area, then you have no stance to complain about what’s wrong with your locale. Even though I’ve only lived in Georgetown for a little over a year, I’ve taken the time, even in my crazy schedule, to get to know the mayor, and several members of the city council. Many of them I like and will support in the future. A few I don’t, and have discussed my intention to support another candidate…and WHY I am doing so. I also take the time to engage potential candidates for the next elections. I express my views on what’s right, and WRONG with the community, and discuss how to bring about real changes. I also listen to the views of others, and their ideas for the future of our little community. Government starts at the local level and works its way up. Do your part to be involved in the solution, otherwise you are just another part of the problem. Leave your mark on your community, make it a positive one.

STOP! Just stop. There are posters who like to check in, take a quick glance at a few choice threads, and catch up on what's going on with these important cases - they don't need to have their time wasted by having to wade through 50 snarky comments. Get this thread back on track - keep it to updates on what's happening with the legislation and other relevant info. Next person to start attacking someone will be sitting in the clink. Act like brats, you'll be treated accordingly.

Another interpretation of yesterday's hearing:

If they are not going to uphold their oath of office to protect and defend the constitution of the United States they shouldn’t be writing laws, or for that matter, hold office in the first place.

I, for one, appreciate that a certain "displaced and now re-placed Texan" is still rootin' for the rest of us left back here in Joisey!

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You used the wrong pronoun

Jensen has asked for a preliminary injunction rather than a TRO. That is likely why it went to an in person hearing. Judge Bumb really ripped into the defendants. I think it will bode well for us.

Posted this elsewhere but thought it would be helpful here as well: Carrying a gun is a system. Appropriate gear combined with appropriate clothing that complement each other. Gear: It’s starts with a quality belt designed to carry a gun. My recommended belts are: • Nylon - Ares Gear Aegis • Leather - Mean Gene Aegis or Bladetech Ultimate Carry Belt (which is really just a rebranded Kore ratcheting belt, or vice-versa) Then a quality holster in the style you intend to carry (OWB, AIWB, IWB) - $15 Amazon holsters with don’t cut it. My recommended holsters: • AIWB - Tenicor • IWB - JM Custom Kydex, Comp Tac • OWB - Safariland, JM Custom Kydex, Blade Tech The attachment of the holster to the belt is also important. I like Discrete Carry Concept Clips whenever possible. They are strong spring steel that pull the holster and gun in tight. I do not like plastic clips at all. Clothing: You have to dress around your carry style and the particular firearm you are going to carry. The clothes should be “gray” as well as weather and situation appropriate. They need to be able to conceal what you are carrying and should be easy to move to get to your gun. Size pants accordingly if IWB or AIWB - I wear size 36 waist but buy 38 because I carry AIWB daily. Size your tops accordingly to they hang over, but are loose enough to pull up and get to the gun on the drawstroke. I also like to wear a black Underarmor type shirt as a base layer. It keeps the gun off my body and has no wrinkles that would create hot spots. It also makes my black gun less noticeable than it would be against my skin or a light colored undershirt. This approach took me many years to get to but it works. No matter what you do, it will sometimes be uncomfortable, it will sometimes be difficult, but this method minimizes those times for me.

Carrying a gun is a system. Appropriate gear combined with appropriate clothing that complement each other. Gear: It’s starts with a quality belt designed to carry a gun. My recommended belts are: • Nylon - Ares Gear Aegis • Leather - Mean Gene Aegis or Bladetech Ultimate Carry Belt Then a quality holster in the style you intend to carry (OWB, AIWB, IWB) - $15 Amazon holsters with don’t cut it. My recommended holsters: • AIWB - Tenicor • IWB - JM Custom Kydex, Comp Tac • OWB - Safariland, JM Custom Kydex, Blade Tech The attachment of the holster to the belt is also important. I like Discrete Carry Concept Clips whenever possible. They are strong spring steel that pull the holster and gun in tight. I do not like plastic clips at all. Clothing: You have to dress around your carry style and the particular firearm you are going to carry. The clothes should be “gray” as well as weather and situation appropriate. They need to be able to conceal what you are carrying and should be easy to move to get to your gun. Size pants accordingly if IWB or AIWB - I wear size 36 waist but buy 38 because I carry AIWB daily. Size your tops accordingly to they hang over, but are loose enough to pull up and get to the gun on the drawstroke. I also like to wear a black Underarmor type shirt as a base layer. It keeps the gun off my body and has no wrinkles that would create hot spots. It also makes my black gun less noticeable than it would be against my skin or a light colored undershirt. This approach took me many years to get to but it works. No matter what you do, it will sometimes be uncomfortable, it will sometimes be difficult, but this method minimizes those times for me.

Can Can Video

Aktually the Shop-Rite can-can commercial from way back did have dancing girls in frilly dresses. That was a catchy commercial, I can still sing it word for word. And you can sing it too:

Are there any French girls dancing in suggestive clothing involved here somewhere?

Leave NJ?

This fucking state...

with regards to salt, or any other <insert ingredient here>, in the case of some level of SHTF, i'm not really going to concern myself with eating 100% healthy; just having reasonable nourishment is a far larger concern. We're talking about days or at worst weeks of stash eating. If it gets into months or years, I'd contend that you have FAR more pressing concerns than eating healthy. Also, I'm going to suggest people look into something that I consider is an overlooked aspect of prepping: storage and transport. i bring this up because, of the past couple of years I've gotten heavily into using milk crates to store and transport stuff. They're conveniently sized, easy to transport, stack and interlock. The one company i've gotten them from has 4-gal, 6-gal, and "super" crate sizes, so depending on your physical abilities you can adjust to your needs.

Whenever I have a positive experience I like to spread the word, as noted by some of my previous posts. My son had been looking for a carry pistol and had several in mind. In checking around, I found out about Kulak Arms and stopped in a week before Christmas. Tom asked if he could help me with anything, I explained I was just looking for my son and told him what his short list was, especially looking for a Shield Plus. He showed me what they had in stock, very friendly and accommodating, no pressure or upselling. I never felt rushed or intimidated at all. Also spoke with Rich Kulak a bit on the way out, said he could order the Shield if that's what he wanted. Several days before Christmas my son met me there after work (bonus, they have evening hours). A little busier, but Rich asked if he could help. My son ended up ordering the Shield Plus for a price that was equal to the lowest price I had seen online (which would also have included shipping/transfer fees). I also noticed the Sig P365 variants they had were lower priced after all was said and done. Ordered 12/21, it arrived 12/30, miraculously cleared NICs 1/4. As far as I'm concerned, Kulak Arms offers great service, atmosphere, and prices, and only 15 minutes travel time for us to boot.

It is incredibly simple. Been years since I did mine, but it was very easy. Think first one was under an hour or two, going slow (lower only). I followed instructions from probably AR15.com but videos are probably even better A few things, you may want to put tape over certain areas so you don't mar surface. Believe especially doing bolt catch. Work inside a clear plastic bag. Think the glove chambers scientists work with dangerous chemicals in, on a 20 cent budget. When (and it is WHEN, NOT if) one of the springs or pins tries to go into low earth orbit, it will remain in a bag, not the other end of the house, somehow. Support the tabs for the trigger guard by putting a piece of wood under it so you cant snap the tab off while putting in a trigger guard roll pin. And buy a better guard that fills the gap better so those 2 tabs don't dig into your fingers. I would buy the flat stamped metal AR tool for castle nut over the 65-in-1 3D tools that are 3x the price (and don't work), unless you need the extra crap. Other tools, I had good enough examples already, so that'll depend on what you have

Do you think you'll be building more than 1 eventually? If not, I can loan you some of the tools you'll need, for example: Armorer's wrench Roll pin punches Receiver block (so you can put it in a vice without damaging the finish)

You'll finish it. You are correct, it isn't that difficult. You can always go the 'lite' build route and start with a complete upper (eliminates the need for a couple of specialized tools, and the headspacing should already be correct). Then just build the lower as you wish. If you have questions you'll get plenty of answers here, and YouTube has some great videos as you've already found. I don't doubt that you can find a gunsmith or FFL to finish the build for you, I just doubt that you'll find it necessary.

Adios Bump Stock Ban!: BREAKING: Cargill v. Garland (5th Circuit): En banc Fifth Circuit strikes down the federal bump stock ban, saying it violates the Administrative Procedure Act. "The definition of 'machinegun' as set forth in the National Firearms Act and Gun Control Act does not apply to bump stocks. And if there were any doubt as to this conclusion, we conclude that the statutory definition is ambiguous, at the very least." https://assets.nationbuilder.com/firearmspolicyfoundation/pages/3970/attachments/original/1673045236/Cargill_v_Garland_En_Banc_Opinion.pdf

I think what he was saying was the DC circuit court dismissed the plaintiffs complaint about carrying in the subway because none of them had been "harmed" because they weren't arrested for carrying, one of them would have to become a felon first This of course is a bullshit liberal view but this is what they are trying with the courts. what these courts and liberals have to start getting used to is that the 2A is no longer a second class right. If that same subway system created a rule that forbid blacks from entering you could bet your last dollar that no one would have to be "Harmed" to have it ruled unconstitutional. the bruen decison has lit the fuse of the dismantling of all infringements. one by one.

Transcript is out: Direct link to transcript: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.506026/gov.uscourts.njd.506026.20.1.pdf

Waiting patiently for an update on this case…

Russian hacking.

I have been carrying AIWB every day for years. There is no one single AIWB location that works for everyone. My weight fluctuates and when I am heavier I tend to shift the gun closer to the outer edge in line with the thigh/pelvic bone. I shift the holster to my hip for driving and sitting at a desk and shift the gun to AIWB when walking around. I carry everything from a P365, G19, P30SK, G26, 1911, 92X Compact, EDC X9S, etc. I also wear clothes that are one size larger like others have discussed. The only times I OWB in warmer weather are when hiking, hunting, and other outside activities. I do OWB in the winter quire a bit but I have found that printing is still an issue. OWB make is feel like I am wearing a brick on my side.

I am going to LOAD up on soup. Was at a local Acme supermarket. The LEAST expensive non-Campbells condenses soup was $4 per can. Let's Go Brandon!! Get your order in now before I put mine in!!! Fair warning!

I think it is awesome that they judge knew that Walmart has a sign that says no open carry. Edit: Apparently the note taker made up the bit about Walmart - he thinks the Judge may have said Lowes.

define "girls"

Got a rough "transcript" (more like an observer's notes) from one of the attendees to the hearing today. To save "screen space" I'll put it in another post and just post a link here. https://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/105412-koons-v-reynolds-010523-hearing-notes/

It sounds encouraging, anxious to see the decision!

LOL! Hey, you! I was just going to post that... Oh well. I graciously acknowledge your quicker draw. Everyone should check with their own store... I'm not sure if this is done at EVERY store, but mine is now in its pre-Can Can "kick-off sale" (where a bulk - but not all - of the items are marked down), and then the full sale kicks in after the 7th. Again, varies from store to store perhaps? Have fun! Stock up that pantry!

Shop Rite's Can Can sale 2023 is ON! https://www.shoprite.com/sm/pickup/rsid/3000/cancan

I'll take it for VP9 package. PM sent

5’11” and 210, I carry a G19 AIWB easily. I was once told by a pretty smart guy on here to ‘dress around the gun’. If that means going up a size in pants, or wearing longer, looser shirts, so be it.

anytime! put yourself on this waiting list and when they hit, buy a few. They are from 2007 and 2013 production, not new production so old Colt. whole thread on arfcom on how these keep popping up once or twice a year from NOS. inventory management for gov and the like really sucks lol one should always have spare lpk on hand. when you buy 'oops small parts kits' and the like, make sure it's correct such as detentes should be cadmium, many do not, Colt, LMT, FN, and even Aero do. it matters, maybe not for 90% of us but there are material differences in lpk springs, detentes, etc when you have extreme temp changes and humidity. oh and whatever @High Exposure says I listen to as he's not only a great guy but does know his $hit (for the most part...I kid I kid) lol https://armsunlimited.com/colt-ar15-m4-mil-spec-lower-parts-kit/

The reply by Schmutter in the Siegel case is here: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.506026/gov.uscourts.njd.506026.17.0.pdf It is another well reasoned and easily understood piece of writing from Dan - I encourage everyone to read it.

Koons is the narrow case trying to block the sensitive areas part of A4769. They initially asked for a TRO, preliminary injunction and permanent injunction. Since the exchange of briefs for the TRO, they are now asking that the temporary injunction is granted. This is being run by SAF/FPC/CNJFO/NJ2AS with Jensen as the lead attorney and is being heard by Judge Renee Marie Bumb. Siegel is the much broader challenge to A4769 and other statutes and regulations. This case challenges almost every part of A4769. e.g. A4769 expressly declared parks as sensitive areas, which is duplicative of the Admin Code for State Parks, so if A4769 is unconstitutional in that respect, so is the pre-existing Admin Code. This is being run by ANJRPC with Schmutter as the lead attorney and is being heard by Judge Karen M. Williams. Both these cases were initially filed on the day A4769 was signed by the Governor. Koons is on a slightly faster track, but there is currently only a couple of days difference. NJ had to file their response to Koons last Friday, 12/30/22 and Jensen had to file his reply by yesterday, 1/3/23. The hearing in Federal District Court is tomorrow, 1/5/23 at 11am. The Koons case can be followed here: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66677437/koons-v-reynolds/ NJ had to file their response to Siegel last Friday, 12/30/22 as well, but the reply from Schmutter is not due until today, 1/4/23. The hearing is scheduled for 1/9/23. The Siegel case can be tracked here: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66677439/siegel-v-platkin/ Parallel to this, NJ has requested that both cases are consolidated. The decision on the consolidation is expected 1/17/23 or soon after.

Good topic!

Thanks! Funny, my first job when I was a kid was at Trenton Pork Roll on the Seaside Boardwalk. I learned early!

Wear the same "tactical" pants many SEALS wore in Vietnam...regular Levi's or Wranglers.

Be the grey man.

"Tactical" pants draw too much attention to the wearer

That one was a MFT holster for a Glock 19. I like it when I wear a thicker belt. The only thing I don’t like about that holster is that it does not accommodate a light on my pistol. Lately, I’ve been carrying with a Tenicor Certium Lux2 for a G19/TLR7A. I really like that one. The retention clips are hard on a belt, but it’s nice and secure.

From what I've read, salt is added more as "seasoning" than for preservation purposes. It's the high heat of the canning process that actually does the preserving. As people have become more conscious of salt intake and it's unhealthy aspects, as Sota noted, there are more and more low-sodium options on the shelves. Just about every major brand offers low-sodium versions to meet those concerns. I also believe water vs. oil for tuna is more of a preference as well. Just rotate your product is what I've always read on the prepping sites. I just set my stuff up in rows (by product type), and when I buy new items, I dutifully shift each little row forward, and add the new items to the back - so nothing is ever going to be in my stock for - I don't know, maybe 18 months at most? But, I'm not prepping for a nuclear winter either. I also don't "live" on a steady supply of canned food normally - so I'm not too worried if something is a little salty as I dip into these supplies. Usually, I prefer to make home-made soups and put extra in the freezer and pull from that supply. But everyone once in awhile, if nothing is in the freezer, and I'm feeling l-a-z-y... yeah, I grab a can of Progresso and I don't feel guilty about it. If I have canned soup 2 or 3 times month, it's a lot. And, if the world goes crazy... and I'm hunkered in my house and need to really dive into my canned goods... there are always things you can do... like adding extra water, other seasoning and unsalted cooked pasta - to make additional servings, each serving with less salt content.

Was it something I said.