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ANJRPC has given us this handy dandy list. Updated with info from 6/20/23 ANJRPC List disappeared - updated with GFH list (not as easy to read) As of 1/9/2023 - here is the official list of places that you may carry by Code Section (PL 2022 Ch 131) 7(a)(12) - public libraries and museums 7(a)(15) - bars, restaurants and places that serve alcohol 7(a)(17) - entertainment facilities, including but not limited to theaters, stadiums, museums, racetracks anywhere where concerts are performed 7(a)(24) - private property 7(b)(1) - while operating a motor vehicle All other elements remain in effect and this list only remains enjoined until an appellate court grants a stay (if they do). As of 1/30/2023 - the TRO has been expanded to cover: 7(a)(10) a park, beach, recreation facility or area or playground owned or controlled by a State, county or local government unit, or any part of such a place, which is designated as a gun free zone by the governing authority based on considerations of public safety; NOTE - PLAYGROUNDS are still off-limits N.J.A.C. 7:2–2.17(b) [preexisting law]: State Park Service property. 7(a)(18) a casino and related facilities, including but not limited to appurtenant hotels, retail premises, restaurant and bar facilities, and entertainment and recreational venues located within the casino property; The Court also acknowledged the State’s concession that “school, college, university, or other educational institution” is to be read narrowly to apply to traditional schools such as are regulated by the State. Thus, the prohibition on carrying in schools does not apply to, for example, motorcycle classes, firearms training, Sunday school within a church, karate classes, and music lessons. Further, the Court acknowledged the State’s concession that notwithstanding the very broad language used in the statute (“any part of the buildings, grounds, or parking area”) the scope of prohibition on multiuse property (strip malls, office buildings, churches with schools, etc.) is limited only to the actual prohibited use itself and not other uses and also does not include shared features such as shared parking lots, hallways, elevators, etc. Allowed as of 5/16/2023 due to Preliminary Injunction: 7(a)(6) within 100 feet of a place where a public gathering, demonstration or event is held for which a government permit is required, during the conduct of such gathering, demonstration or event; 7(a)(9) Zoo 7(a)(20) an airport or public transportation hub (Only curbside drop off/pickup and air travel pursuant to federal law - eg unloaded, locked container for travel) 7(a)(21) a health care facility (Medical office and ambulatory care facility only) 7(a)(23) a public location being used for making motion picture or television images for theatrical, commercial or educational purposes, during the time such location is being used for that purpose; 7(a)(24) - private property (property that is open to the public - businesses, etc. Including curtilage of private property - driveways, front walks, lawns, etc.; You are also allowed on private property if invited) Also removed as of 5/16/23: 4(a) and (b): Liability insurance requirement. Portion of N.J.S. 2C:58-4(c) authorizing the police to interview the persons endorsing the carry permit application. Further Clarification as of 5/16/23: Maximum of 2 handguns are allowed on you for carry purposes. If you are in a vehicle, any additional firearms fall under transportation laws. You cannot carry in the following locations: 7(a)(1) a place owned, leased, or under the control of State, county or municipal government used for the purpose of government administration, including but not limited to police stations; 7(a)(2) a courthouse, courtroom, or any other premises used to conduct judicial or court administrative proceedings or functions; 7(a)(3) a State, county, or municipal correctional or juvenile justice facility, jail and any other place maintained by or for a governmental entity for the detention of criminal suspects or offenders; 7(a)(4) a State-contracted half-way house; 7(a)(5) a location being used as a polling place during the conduct of an election and places used for the storage or tabulation of ballots; 7(a)(7) a school, college, university or other educational institution, and on any school bus; 7(a)(8) a child care facility, including a day care center; 7(a)(9) a nursery school, pre-school, or summer camp; 7(a)(10) Playgrounds 7(a)(11) youth sports events, as defined in N.J.S.5:17-1, during and immediately preceding and following the conduct of the event, except that this provision shall not apply to participants of a youth sports event which is a firearm shooting competition to which paragraph (3) of subsection b. of section 14 of P.L.1979, c.179 (C.2C:58-6.1) applies; 7(a)(13) a shelter for the homeless, emergency shelter for the homeless, basic center shelter program, shelter for homeless or runaway youth, children’s shelter, child care shelter, shelter for victims of domestic violence, or any shelter licensed by or under the control of the Juvenile Justice Commission or the Department of Children and Families; 7(a)(14) a community residence for persons with developmental disabilities, head injuries, or terminal illnesses, or any other residential setting licensed by the Department of Human Services or Department of Health; 7(a)(16) a Class 5 Cannabis retailer or medical cannabis dispensary, including any consumption areas licensed or permitted by the Cannabis Regulatory Commission established pursuant to section 31 of P.L.2019, c.153 (C.24:6I-24); 7(a)(19) a plant or operation that produces, converts, distributes or stores energy or converts one form of energy to another; 7(a)(21) a health care facility, including but not limited to a general hospital, special hospital, psychiatric hospital, public health center, diagnostic center, treatment center, rehabilitation center, extended care facility, skilled nursing home, nursing home, intermediate care facility, tuberculosis hospital, chronic disease hospital, maternity hospital, outpatient clinic, dispensary, assisted living center, home health care agency, residential treatment facility, residential health care facility 7(a)(22) a facility licensed or regulated by the Department of Human Services, Department of Children and Families, or Department of Health, other than a health care facility, that provides addiction or mental health treatment or support services; 7(a)(25) any other place in which the carrying of a firearm is prohibited by statute or rule or regulation promulgated by a federal or State agency. 3rd Circuit Stay effective 6/20/23 A mid-level federal appeals court has partially granted and partially denied New Jersey’s motion to temporarily reinstate the carry-killer law. As a result, the lower court’s injunction blocking most of the carry-killer law will be partially suspended during the state’s appeal. This means that for the duration of the appeal there are “sensitive places” where the carry-killer law prohibits carry and other places where the carry-killer law remains blocked by the court. The decision means that for the duration of the appeal gun owners CANNOT lawfully continue to carry in the following locations: Within 100 feet of a public gathering, demonstration, or event requiring a government permit; Zoo; Park, beach, recreational facility or area owned or controlled by a State, county or local government unit designated as a gun-free zone; Publicly owned or leased library or museum; Bar or restaurant where alcohol is served and any other site or facility where alcohol is sold for consumption on the premises; Entertainment facility; Casino and related facilities; Health care facility. You can continue to carry in the following locations: Vehicles Private property Public film locations Duty to inform is in effect as of 7/1/23 Training Requirements - Revised as of 9/17/23 https://www.anjrpc.org/page/NJRevisesCarryTrainingRequirements Excerpt as follows:

Siegal has been Consolidated into the Koons Case. Notes coming Soon

Tick Tock Tick Tock:

I always carry 10+1. The law clearly states a maximum magazine capacity. Nothing is said about how many rounds you can have total.

Auto mechanics and tech will love this video. This video confirms just how stupid people are. jmho

It’s a beautiful day. Bumb has it all.

I added this here - please let me know if anything else is needed to be added or changed. And of course, you'll be getting some swag!

This really is great news for us. We got the judge who already smacked the State around and already ruled in 2A's favor vs a Biden apointee judge. It's certainly far from over and nothing is set in stone, but the alternative was worse, so this really is the best outcome at this juncture. Def having a celebratory drink tonight.

This is Bumbs case now.

Not a lawyer... But williams consolidating into Koons means it's Judge Bumbs to decide, how can she rescind her TRO if it was never hers to rescind? I could be wrong.

more than a million I have been in the biz 18 years. "You can't makes this shit up" is everyday

That's a detail I'd missed. But I'd already lost interest in it when I couldn't find an IWB holster for the gun.

Here is a link for a brief synopsis of the changes made after Judge Bumb's Koons V. Reynolds decision on 1/9/22. But please note - the information in this link is subject to change: https://www.mendhamnj.org/documents/Summary A4769.pdf Also a link to the Koons V Reynolds forum page:

Those are rookie numbers - lol You need to get a +1 mag extension.

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I can't disagree. Things are moving so fast... my head is spinning too! I think we'll know a lot more after tomorrow - whether these TWO cases with some overlap are being consolidated or not. I'll tallk to @Krdshrk and maybe a couple of others who have a better grasp of this than myself - between us maybe we can figure out some kind of summary document - with links back to the original docs. (A locked thread with NO comments on it... that just gets updated as things change). If it's dependent on my schedule, don't expect anything until next week at the earliest - as I'm jammed through early next week...

Once again, there was a threat to everyone there. The good guy shot the bad guy in the back was honorable. LE agencies have different rules of engagement on different levels. Last I knew NJ agencies almost had to spot the bad guy the first shot if the gun wasn't pointed at them. I know Federal agencies who had the policy if the bad guy had a gun in his hand, not pointed at you, you said drop it and they didn't do it in a microsecond, you shot him. This info is dated. Giving a bad guy a chance to drop the gun when people are in jeopardy will only result in someone getting hurt or killed.

The analogy would be if a superior court judge issued you your driver license and it came with a court order that stipulated you could only drive the vehicle you passed the road test with. The order says you can add additional vehicles any time by submitting a written request to the court. Moot point until you get pulled over by the wrong cop (in both cases)...

That logic makes sense. The process was so administratively fatiguing the first time. When I inquired (before the new law was passed) on how to add new hand guns, I was told the Monmouth County judge wanted all new applications to add a pistol. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze on that, I would live with the one pistol. But if it's easier now, that's a different story...

The actual legislation does not state you have to qual with the exact gun you carry. That was a constraint the court imposed in some places. Now that the courts are out of it, if you have been approved for a CCW license and have a qualification on record (shot with any handgun you own) then you can carry (within the scope of NJ Law) any other handgun you legally own. If you are already carrying on a permit that has already been issued by the court, and there are court imposed restrictions, I recommend you contact the issuing court or an attorney to determine if the court order still applies until your permit expires and you re-up.

And celebrate the small victories that so many have fought so hard to achieve.

In the meantime - WE CARRY

Aren't they still in Biden's garage packing up all those classified docs?

My thinking as well. Similar to how Alito and Thomas told the Second Circuit they got it wrong, without actually saying it.

Are you an attorney? I am, thanks for the lesson though. Is your desire to see the TRO stayed? If so, why are you here? I suppose to keep us all grounded in our expectations. Thanks for that...

OOPSIE!

From ANJRPC: January 12, 2023. Today, in a stunning development, the judge in ANJRPC's case to overturn NJ's carry-killer law consolidated ANJRPC's lawsuit into the other case that is pending on certain overlapping issues. The judge in that other case has already issued a temporary restraining order halting enforcement of certain aspects of the carry-killer law, and has already thoroughly analyzed and resolved many of the issues needed to make a decision on the remaining portions of ANJRPC's case. The consolidation of the two cases was requested by ANJRPC. The move likely signals more bad news for the fate of Governor Murphy's carry-killer law. Gun owners were well-represented by ANJRPC counsel Dan Schmutter, who made a number of powerful and compelling arguments. The State of New Jersey was represented by the Attorney General's office. CLICK HERE to see the key papers filed in the case so far, including the recent decision and order in the other case halting enforcement of certain aspects of the carry-killer law (see items 5 and 6).

Won't know 100% until we have the transcript, but it's being reported as from today's hearing.

Anthony has indicated the consolidation into Koons, that means it is Bumb's case now. This is exactly what we wanted.

I agree, an opinion has already been written, why recreate. Also I don't know if folks are familiar with Williams she is not left wing. Her jurisprudence is quite centered. In fact Dem's really didn't want her on the bench.

Totally makes sense to me. (non-political take) Punt to the judge who has already done the work and issued an opinion on the majority of the issues. (political take) Punt to the judge who is apparently willing to stick their neck out on an unpopular issue, and get it off your future resume.

worst one i ever had was a subaru that the belt skipped off. this was about 5 years ago. lady said she started her car, heard a LOUD noise, then lost power steering. towed it in. we popped the hood to see what made the belt pop off. it was a cat. i had trouble calling her about that one....but when i got it out, she said......i WONDERED where he's been!! i'm like yea......he was under your hood. had a kid delivering pizza for dominos. in a vw cabriolet. brought the car in for brake pull. go it up in the air. driver side front brake rotor was gone. not ground down. removed. as was the caliper. he had a bolt stuck in the hose with a few hose clamps holding it. he declined that repair. shop owner across the street had a chevy astro. opened the hood, and nearly had a heart attack. cat jumped out at him. then they found that cats kittens. they each adopted one.

"The homeowner's gun is legal and authorities are not filing charges since his action seemed to be justified." Also check out the linked video at the 1:40 mark.

Probably will have reports later this afternoon. Doesn't start until 1:30.

Carrying 1 in chamber and 10 in magazine. There is nothing illegal about that.

I suspect it will take a few days for any decision to come out. The TRO took from Thursday to Monday and that was fast. If we get something early next week That will be good. I don't think the judges want to get this wrong - SCOTUS is watching.

I have a crime scene cleanup tote bag you can have. Perfect for going to Shop Rite!!!

In the meantime, in related coverage - I think someone mentioned (upthread?) that the Star-Ledger had posted a VERY snarky and incredibly disdainful article about 2A rights in NJ in light of the recent TRO. Link to the editorial here: http://thf-legal.s3.amazonaws.com/Star Ledger 2A Curse Article.pdf Subsequently, the Heritage Foundation has responded directly to that editorial in a fairly blistering way, here:, here: https://www.heritage.org/firearms/commentary/second-amendment-blessing-not-curse-end-year-examples-defensive-gun-use - an enjoyable read! I sure do like the way that various 2A orgs and pro-2A think tanks are REALLY paying attention to New Jersey now! Bruen changed the landscape a lot, didn't it?

NJ CCW holders during the TRO on sensitive places:

Colion did a video just about this.....interesting to watch. He did a training scenario about it.

Glad to hear it. Mine was yesterday in Morris. Over 160 days for me.

He's got to go... 10 years ago.

I would keep all but one handgun I own in play. The only one I would NEVER carry is my .44 magnum Ruger Super Redhawk SS with scope! It's a bit too large!