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you're right. it won't gain any traction. would be fantastic if it did. i'm waiting to hear about the lawsuits to stop the brace ban, as it goes against bruen at the least, the 2a at the worst.....

Judge Bumb has it. Last thing I see is the State requested a new date for a Hearing. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66677439/siegel-v-platkin/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ

Jesus, can’t we just be civil to one another? The infighting amongst one another on this site is getting annoying.

Went to the PD for some insight that I will pass on. In Sussex County if you received a ccw permit from the court with a court order that lists the weapons you can carry you are bound by that order. To add a gun, as the permit says you must still send in proof of permit, proof of purchase, and proof of qualification. Supposedly, it will be added at some point. Although its been 6 weeks. The nice lady in charge of firearms seemed very up to date on new bs rules. She said, for all new applications they handle in house and turn them around quick. She did say, to renew it will be in house and by then will be electronic. I was told that I should have waited to apply, as I was her first application afyer Bruen. Also said I could write the court to vacate the order and reapply through PD. Unanswered questions: 1. Do we have to qual with each weapon or does the permit cover any handgun like PA? 2. Fees she said have and gone up. But you save money on fingerprints. 3. No clue about insurance. 4. No fingerprints required. The belief that NJ will be a constitutional carry was mentioned. Meaning get your purchase permit, buy hangun, and carry.

This doesn’t compute…. If you are spot on, you wouldn’t be hitting low/left. How are you confirming you are spot on? How did you zero your dot and at what distance? Are you shooting low/left with iron sights as well? Low/left is the standard “miss” for right handed shooters. I suggest you take a beginner level class with a reputable instructor. It is impossible to diagnose shooting issues like this via the internet.

In terms of perceived "pain" from taxes, the middle class is always the one with the higher perception. We're generally *just* rich enough to be comfortable, but not so rich to have "fuck you" money lying around. The poor always get assistance, and the rich don't really care.

Never thought I'd see this in NJ. Convenience store on corner of 571 & S. Stump Tavern in Jackson. Just up the road from CJRPC.

I changed the post to "pin" the brace. 6' muzzle brakes are available.

You're welcome! Yeah, the clerk was super-nice and easy to deal with. Mine was supposedly signed last Friday so I am hoping it's available for pick up this week. Will def reply with updates.

The Siegel TRO hearing is set for Thursday, Jan. 26 at 11:30 am. Also there appears to be a new attorney representing NJ. Don't know if Angela Cai will still be in the mix or not. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.506026/gov.uscourts.njd.506026.37.0.pdf and https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.506033/gov.uscourts.njd.506033.43.0.pdf

Don't let this thread devolve, pls! No insulting other posters, etc. Let's strive to debate like gentlemen and ladies (as politically incorrect as that might sound these days ). Thx! Besides... honestly, it seems these are GOOD DAYS for the 2A in NJ. Why squabble - now of all times? Of course, some of these issues ARE confusing and will take time to iron out. In the meantime, pls be patient. And if you've still got a bit of pent-up energy, here's a suggestion... channel it into writing out some checks to the 2A orgs behind these current cases. Now that they have some real "ammo" (thanks to Bruen), they're leveraging it really well and doing a bang-up job!

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Yes I will agree that a hearing will take place in the next few weeks. What I love about this is that the tyrants in the state will need to defend a law that denies vetted, and trained peaceful citizens from exercising their 2nd amendment rights. Point is the state has no defense. They are just there to try and force their prejudiced perverted socialist belief system on you and me. ALL other states respect the right to keep and bear arms. NY and NJ are the only holdouts but........ in the end they will LOSE..

Another vote for a 1911 9mm, my Springfield armory RO target is hands down my favorite range toy, add a mag well and 10 round mags are a pleasure to plink with.

It's a product of the Biden Administration, what exactly did you expect?

Not pointing fingers at you specifically, I’m referring to everyone. We should be working together to sort through the shit, not bashing each other.

This is my email. I emailed the judge and received this in return. I’m taking it as the judge wrote it and she sent it on his behalf. That’s good enough for me. Now you can email, call, write a letter and send it through the mail. I don’t give a damn. You’ll get the same response. Or you can sit here and bitch and moan in the interwebs and not do a damn thing but wait for other people to do all the work for you.

Actually Mike, you were wrong. Tuck your tail between your legs and walk away

Oh okay thats good to know. I will tell the police Capt, the firearms clerk, the Judges Clerk, and the Judge that Mike77 said I dont have to follow a Judges order. Thank you for assistance.

This isnt accurate. My order specifically says to add a weapon I must send the court proof of qual, proof of purchase, and proof of permit. I sent it in 6 weeks ago with no word. As the previous post suggests, you CANNOT ignore an order. You can tey to vacate it.

I don't think that DWX is approved for production division. It would be stuck in limited as the rules are now. I have one sitting at Monmouth Arms now, should pick it up tomorrow.

It bears repeating, the Ocean County Superior Court issued an order rescinding a previous order on my behalf. The original assignment judge listed sensitive places and the current assignment judge reversed that. It only took an email to the law clerk and a week later I had the new order. I realize that there is mass confusion with these judges and the way they issue. There is no continuity across counties but try asking for a rescind order with your court.

In my view, a secretary does not have the authority to rescind or overrule an order from a judge. Unless I get a court order vacating my existing court order I'm going to adhere to it. It's no big deal for me right now as all my handguns are listed on my court order. When I get a new gun I'll find out what the attitude of the court is.

I just happened to have an extra rifle upper on hand, so for giggles I threw it on my other lower along with a fixed stock. I now have a basic no frills 16" rifle that I paid waaaaaay too much for. When I bought my 10.5" Troy 2 years ago, I went in with my eyes open. In the back of my mind, I suspected that the pistol braced "other" in NJ could possibly get put on a NOGO list at some point.

That's a take off on the Concealed Carry Act in NY. Murphy has never has an original idea. He tries to get away with whatever they do in NY. Whilst I am a believer in personal property rights I had an experience last month in NYC. I can carry under LEOSA in NY. I can carry hollowpoints, 15 rd magazines just about anywhere. If I carry into a store that doesn't have a "guns welcome here" sign, it's a felony. Back to personal property rights. Went to Radio City for the Christmas Show. No gun as I know of no theater that allows it. My niece was PR manager for the Empire State Building 10 years ago. Even then, NYPD wouldn't be allowed in armed unless they were on duty. Back to Radio City. I have a knife with a half inch cutting edge on my Keychain. The security guy acted like I had a bazooka!!! Called the supervisor. He reacted like I had a hand grenade. Asked me who I was with. Pointed to my companion. Told me, "don't try anything". Did he think I could possibly attempt a mass killing with a half inch blade? I attempted to show him my retired ID to reassure him. He responded, "that won't do you any good here". I got in. However the Christmas Show at Radio City is not what it used to be. It was over 2 hrs with an intermission. Now it's 90 minutes. They do the Rockettes, the bus, the Santa's and that's it. So instead of 2 shows a day they can do 4.

Thanks!!!

I think PK90 meant getting a 14.5" barrel and then welding a 1.5" muzzle brake for a total of 16"

Why not pin and weld on a muzzle break long enough to make it 16", and pin the brace.

The guy did not pick up the knife again after being shot. That is why the cop went back to less lethal. If he still had the knife he would have been shot some more. TBH, that is incredibly good live decision making and reacting to changing circumstances on the part of the officers.

Holy Shit!!! Court advised application approved, waiting for card to be printed. Will be sent out by friday back to PD. Let's see how long it takes for PD to call me.

Gloucester county judge says carry any firearm legally owned by permit holder.

He has done nothing but express the same frustration as us all.

No smear on us! No CCW and he was a prohibited person thus the unlawful possession charge.

They just filed Saturday to update TRO for all areas. Courts closed til tomorrow. They hoping she will just add the areas ASAP.

Useless crap bills that have no chance whatsoever of becoming a law. Dog and pony show.

Is that a dress, or a digital TV with a serious reception issue? This May Be Her Ugliest Dress Yet! - Jill Biden Wears Tacky Frock During Visit to Mexico (Photo + Video) (thegatewaypundit.com)

Gaetz McCarthy house floor argument expained.

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Or a diamond sharpening stone…