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I'm not a lawyer, but you would be wise to abide by the rules of an order you were given by the court. If you don't agree with the stipulations in the order or if you feel that there is new legislation that renders the stipulation in the order moot, then you should contact the court and get THEM to provide you with an updated order (or a letter indicating the order is rescinded). You can't ignore a court order.

He didn't write it. He only signed it into law. Some other idiots wrote it.

Nice try though. Illinois loses appeal over gun control law, leaving restraining order in effect | Fox News

We had that in 2017 and 2018, and it didn't go anywhere. There's no chance it would pass the senate now.

Updated CC locations post with the handy dandy chart given to us by the ANJRPC

Exercising a right can be done without acting like an asshole. Grown ups know how to do this.. I really don’t get the hate that some of y’all have for law enforcement.

Sadly, I think democrats are more emboldened to vote against 2A legislation. New Jersey is perfect example of this. Yes, the chances of some if not most of this legislation will be found to be unconstitutional, but that won't stop them from trying, and knowing they will at least purposefully slow down the system in the process.

It SHOULD be an absolute, but NJ being NJ, you never know.

I believe PD's can purchase direct from the manufacturer but the PD's would be free to purchase from wholesalers at an inflated rate. In order for this to work Glock must be on board as well as S&W, and Mossberg. I'm not sure if Remington is still actively producing shotguns and rifles. While I totally agree with this tactic it will only cost the taxpayers in the tyrannical states more money and it's painfully obvious that they don't care how they waste taxpayer dollars.

I'd love for it to happen, but we're talking about legislation that has to be voted on, not a Supreme Court decision that nullifies existing law because it's unconstitutional.. Many Democrats base a significant part of their platforms on being "anti gun". You will not get enough Democrat votes to support any pro 2A gun legislation, and you will not get a Democratic President (particularly this one) to sign any pro 2A bill into law.

Unfortunately you need the House, Senate, and President to be Republican in order for it to have a chance. This one one won't go anywhere...

Does yours also say for personal proctection only

Oct 2018

I think the Mosin train has rolled by. LOTS of people were into them when you could pick them up for $200 (or lower) and surplus ammo was plentiful. Unfortunately the rifles aren't cheap anymore and the ammo is getting expensive. I saw a listing for a crate on Gunbroker with a buy it now price of $9k and the bidding was already at $5.5k!! Add to that the fact that regardless of the modifications, a Mosin will always shoot like a Mosin...just "OK". I know there are people out there who SWEAR they added a stock, chassis, shim kit, screws, etc, and made their a "sub-MOA gun"...but that's bullshit. That said, my M44 is a family favorite when we have a range day. Something about the fireball, big recoil, big sounds, and stiff bolt that makes it fun to shoot...

Well as soon as I submitted my post PD called to pick up my permit. On the back about the restrictions 2 boxes are checked. 1 is See below & the other is see court order .Below says “Valid as stated on court order” They gave me the court order which I have to carry. The order states only the gun I qualified with & I have to carry the order with me. Also the only carry where allowed. I read that the carry of the gun you qualified with is not legal meaning I should be allowed to carry any handgun I own but for now I’m not going to bring it up. I’ll wait a while to see how things play out. Seem each county is making their own rules

No, you didn't fix it. The state can make a suggestion, then the people decide for themselves. It's really the same thing, and perfectly fine.

Yep. That's why I have that link in my signature. It's a great article that explains rights quite clearly. https://www.backwoodshome.com/we-dont-need-no-steenking-2nd-amendment/

President Obama had a similar Constitutional disconnect. Not sure if it's ignorance or worse. They may know then subtly lie to the low information public. The President famously said the Constitution gives citizens rights. We all know that is not true. Our God given rights predate the USA, the founding documents and all the Amendments protect these rights. It's a fine point but makes a huge difference. When the powers gives you something, they can take it away which would be any tyrant's preference.

FIFY

Yeah, it was something like the state should say "may post a sign" as opposed to "should post a sign". No surprise the state's way of thinking is to just tell people what to do, as opposed to making a suggestion. This *is* NJ, ya know. We "should" also have constitutional carry, but oh well.

Or remind him that his previous assessment was that Constitutional issues were 'above his pay grade'. So STFU.

and on this note, why didn't anyone call in and ask the governor why exactly he thought that vetted law abiding citizens were a/the problem?

One big dilemma I see with bugout bags and supplies is that when you need to use them, you will want good quality stuff because your life will be on the line. On the downside, you can spend a lot of money acquiring all that, but then will be unlikely to ever need any of it.

Murphy's expression the moment he was asked about the TRO:

So our governor is is encouraging people to post gun free zone signs. The first person who is robbed or worse at gunpoint will wonder why his sign was not honored, hmmmmm. Maybe we should pass a law removing qualified immunity for stupid advice offered by state officials so people can drag politicians into court.

Because DEMOCRATS!

i wish i had some...i'd just send em to ya.

Then why does your IP address say Huntsville Alabama?

Cellular scooter my daisy heads, Bula Vanaka beachside

dude....chill. i know johnnyb personally. dude is FAR from a bootlicker. but he IS very smart. you might also wanna reconsider your "connections" getting you off the hook. i know a few cops that are very good people, do their damndest to try to improve their community(read that if you don't act like an ass, they probably won't ticket you, and they don't go bat$ht arresting people). they also won't let people off for showing id with "connections". ya did the deed,,,,,,,,,,

Not a stupid question at all. I'm not a lawyer, but in that scenario you haven't really gone afoul of any gun laws, so you're not an instant felon. You ignored the sign, so the owners will likely be pissed and have you "trespassed" by the police. That means you're no longer allowed in the store and you'd be arrested if you went there again. So that means be aware of the signs on places you go and don't let your gun poke out from under your shirt.

Platkin doesn’t know what the word ‘unprecedented’ means.

Want!!!

EXCLUSIVE: Sen. Roger Marshall Reintroduces Legislation To Roll Back ATF’s New Pistol Brace Rule (msn.com)

And the hits keep on coming!: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.504488/gov.uscourts.njd.504488.17.0.pdf

NJ: Our law is rooted in history and tradition. We wouldn't have passed this law without it. Judge: Show me NJ: Fuck...

Just picked up my permit from Hamilton PD!

Stop insulting other posters...! Enough of that. It's inappropriate, against forum rules and frankly, if comes off belligerent and bratty. I'm sure you can do better! And I hope everyone else on here knows they shouldn't be taking rash-sounding legal advice from strangers on the Internet... do I even need to say that? Hopefully not!

and after July, with your attitude you will get arrested and lose your gun rights forever just because you didnt tell them you had a gun. I dont like the law either but unless it gets struck down you will be obligated to tell them. Only good things can come out of years of people telling the police they have a gun and no problems ever pop up with those people. Once the cops figure out(they already know) that permit holders are no threat at all it will be good for all of us.

Just remember, shitty attitudes often make for shitty outcomes. You do you.

Florida to consider allowing gunowners to carry concealed guns without a permit (msn.com) Good for them!

Yeah…let us know how that works out for you. Good luck.

shoot the perp then put out the fire.