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When it hits the ground? Practically none. There was an issue with early Sig P320 pistols for which Sig has implemented a fix, but just about every reputable manufacturer includes safety features such as firing pin/striker safety blocks to prevent any discharges if the gun is dropped. Older designs, such as a pre series 80 1911 does not have a firing pin block, but does have a safety notch on the hammer in case the sear is tripped which will catch the hammer before it strikes the firing pin. Old style single action revolvers would be carried with an empty chamber under the lowered hammer so there was no round there to be fired if it was dropped on the hammer. If you instinctively attempt to catch the falling pistol, you are much more likely to inadvertently activate the trigger and make it fire, than would be the case if it just hit the ground. Any reputable instructor will tell you to let the gun fall, clear the area in front of the muzzle as far as the situation allows, then pick it back up.

Aiken was not moving his stuff from his old home to his new home. He was traveling around NJ with all of his stuff in his trunk crashing on couches while he "looked for a permanent dwelling". He was leaving Point A (house for sale in CO) but he didn't have a Point B (residence in NJ). He just had his guns and ammo stored in his trunk while he randomly crashed with friends and relatives. (I think it's absurd that he was charged, but that's a different discussion). That's a very different scenario than you packing stuff in your vehicle and going directly to your new residence. Yes the travel laws do not explicitly state that you can go from your residence to your residence, but if there is ANYWHERE you're allowed to take them (range, competition, etc) then there is an implicit implication that you can return to your home with them. In the Aiken case the judge didn't allow the travel rules to be read to the jury because he didn't think Aiken was in the act of moving. (I again disagree) Again, I'm not a lawyer, and you have to do what makes you comfortable, so go ahead and get rid of all your HP ammo or spend money mailing it to your new place. I would not hesitate to pack it and go.

Whys is that? Going from one residence to another of from your residence to a gun range is a legal exemption to the rule. Same as going to the range with them. Could you get in trouble with a overzealous cop/prosecutor/da? Sure, but that applies with anything gun related, even if what you are doing is 100% legal.

I sold my home in NJ and bought a house in South Carolina. I'm going to give my experience getting my CCW in South Carolina. You need to take a CCW course. I took it at a place called Ken-Tec in Mullins SC. The guy was great. the class was about 3 hours. Then you took a multiple choice/true false test. The instructor graded it after we took it. He had a range in his yard where you had to qualify at 7 yards with 25 rounds. When the course was done the instructor signed off on your application and qualification forms. I took the course on January 29th. I then had to make an appointment for fingerprints at IdentoGo. I had my fingerprints done on January 31st. IdentiGo did the fingerprints, scanned my application and qualification and my DL and Passport and submitted it all to South Carolina. I received my CCW permit in the mail today. Feb 25th.

Hmmm...just curious...where are you reading how difficult it is to shoot/pass the qualification course. Gun For Hire lists their course-of-fire using the standard FBI Q target. I am a cock-eyed old man who hasn't shot pistols in several years. I pulled a few of my guns out of the safe, cleaned them and successfully shot that course-of-fire for practice at my home range with each of those guns. All iron sights and included a compact (M&P 9C) and a sub-compact (SIG P290RS). With the SIG I had 1 miss at 25 yards. All the rest were 100%. In my judgement, if you can't pass the GFH qualification course you have no business carrying a gun!

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Impossible with a properly designed handgun.

Sorry yes, I did exactly as the link instructed. My apologies I never go into Pa for anything really…. But I followed the link 100% and went to the courthouse and was in and out pretty quickly. Michael

Welcome brother. It's Taylor Ham.

No, I wouldn't be. Fender-bender is an exchange of information. I was in one recently (my truck had a minor dent and the other car needed to be towed) and the cop didn't ask either of us what was in our vehicles, where we were going, etc, etc. In the unrealistic event that a cop DID ask, it wouldn't matter. Going from my property TO my property is not a crime. Stop chasing windmills...

I did the Montgomery County online then waited for an email and then went to get my picture taken by them and they handed it to me in 15 minutes.. https://delawarepa.permitium.com/ccw/application?permittype=new easy and fast. $25 and that was it…

I appreciate everyone referring to Aitken, but it's not analogous in the scenario that OP provides. If he's loading up a vehicle in NJ and heading out of state to his new home, I don't see how that's anything other than going from one exempt place to another. How friggin long is it going to take OP to get out of the state? Yes we tend to look for the boogeyman everywhere and say that "NJ prosecutors will crucify you for XXXX" but I don't see that in this case. I'm not a lawyer, and I'm not OP, but I'd just load the shit in an un-marked box and move.

Good luck! I keep reading on this thread that any qualification is pretty much impossible to pass with anything short of a scoped target gun.

I will qualify with my High-Standard Victor. A .22LR target pistol that never misses the target! I'd never carry it for SD though!

Yes, FFLs in NJ have had to record handgun ammo purchases on paper for many years. A PITA. That collection of paper was to be kept in case NJSP ever needed to inspect it. To my knowledge, they never did at our shop. The new FARS system went live this week without any notice. This electronic collection scheme will not only add $1.50 to each transaction, but it will add 2-3 minutes to each transaction. That may not sound like much time, but at a busy shop, this will be a huge nuisance. I believe this electronic scheme only applies to ammo leaving the building. If you are shooting it on location, it does not need to be recorded. For those that shoot first and then buy ammo after the session to resupply stash, I now highly recommend buying ammo going into the range.

No quality firearm will go off in your holster. I'd stay away from Glocks with 3 lb triggers for a carry gun, 1911s with the grip safety pinned and a few other guns. If you're carrying for SD you need a round in the chamber in a semiautomatic. If you don't feel comfortable with that learn to shoot a revolver.