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As someone approved by NJSP to run RPO qualifications, I can say with certainty that is not the course of fire for RPO. HQC1 or HQC2 plus HNQC are the required CoF for RPO.

She didn't say that at all - she said she flags the possibility that shall issue statutory laws because permitting schemes can be put towards abusive ends. She also put the burden on the state government to come forth with the historical tradition of gun regulations that justify putting restrictions on our right to carry. This is HUGE. The Shall Issue Permitting laws need to be looked at in a case-by-case basis. That puts it out there that NJ's requirements are potentially unconstitutional. While we have some unclassified an restrictive policies put on us to obtain our CCW - it could be worse - look at NY. Bumb is specifically putting out her opinion on this to prevent that from happening here in NJ... And potentially making it even easier for us. It's just going to take time. Keep the faith. Yes - ranges are using this as an economic windfall - good for them. Capitalism. It's up to you to find alternative methods on how to get qualified.

Someone else is making those decisions for the Commander in Sleep. Joe doesn’t have an earthly clue.

That is mistaken on several levels. You can get qualified for much less than $150. I charge to run people through quals, but nowhere near that much. A regular PCH is not the same as an RPO permit. RPO are much less constrained than us regular folk. They have a less onerous magazine restriction, they can carry in the so-called sensitive places, but they have to requalify every 6 months using HQC1/2 and HNQC. Us regular folk only have to complete whatever simplified CoF the qualifying instructor believes is necessary for him/her to assess the candidate's safe gun handling and we only have to do it once every 2 years, but we're stuck with 10 round mags and NJ hates us.

I stand corrected and appreciate having to read the document which should have been done beforehand. The Press initially incorrectly reported it this way. It is great that she left it open that way. The Injunction was informative and not hard to read after all...

Judge Bumb just threw out the requirement for insurance in her PI.

Protip - watch it at 1.5x speed.

If you've got an hour to spare... here's the far more detailed breakdown of this decision (the follow-up video to the shorter Four Boxes Diner video posted about 8 msgs upthread by @Krdshrk): BREAKING 2A WIN: FULL (GEEK) ANALYSIS OF JUDGE BUMB'S SPANKING OF NEW JERSEY IN CONCEAL CARRY CASE - YouTube So far, of all the YouTube channels on 2A issues, this guy is my favorite for legal analysis. He's very thorough - seems to have a great grasp of the issues. Look up his bio - pretty impressive!

We constructed a new raised bed for my wife for Mothers Day (at her request). The old one was overgrown and too shaded by a tree that she didn't want me to cut down. She put in cherry tomatoes, string beans, sugar snap peas, some various peppers, cukes and chives. Hopefully she'll maintain it, unlike past years.

Although I get your (understandably!) cynical point of view... it's also hard to ignore that there's one very serious difference between "then" and "now". Even if ALL these various cases move glacially, as you say, through the courts - as so many NJ gun cases have done in the past - in the meantime, law-abiding NJ citizens are at least carrying concealed. Frankly?... I never thought I'd see that day. Did you? I think this latest chapter - this decision by Judge Bumb - is yet another "win" no matter how you slice it. And the fact that this judge took so much time and turned out such a lengthy and carefully annotated product... makes me think that she KNEW damn well this case would be immediately appealed, and that it would be closely watched by other courts around the country, and she was making sure to dot the i's and cross the t's on this initial decision... so that it would withstand any future appeal process. I think she's going to be JUST as careful when the full case is heard and decided. And yes, the fact that Alito is over that next level court... if these combined cases ever get to that point, well, from my (albeit limited) understanding, it certainly doesn't hurt us! For years, pro-2A NJ citizens had NOTHING but bad legislation and even worse legal decisions to despair over. But the fact is... the Bruin case DID change things. It gave much-needed "teeth" to the pro-2A side... in the form of clear, compelling guidance on what courts need to do to decide 2A cases... and now we're seeing a series of wins as a direct result. You know, it's ok to crack a smile... perhaps even lift a celebratory glass... at each step we win.

In the final analysis IL has no real choice because; Well those anti-gunners will soon be in for a shock as soon as the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals make a decision on the IL semi-auto law. It's no longer about the city of Naperville because the 7th Circuit combined the state law with it, so now it becomes a state decision. If you're old enough to know what a Hobson's choice is, here it comes. If the 7th Circuit rules in favor of IL; it gets an express trip to the SCOTUS. If the 7th Circuit rules against the state, then Gov. Pritzer has 2 choices, accept the fact that his semi-auto law is unconstitutional OR take it to the SCOTUS and hope that they will find some loophole for him to keep his precious law. But it gets better because every anti-gun governor/anti-gun advocate does not want a state law made unconstitutional, because then the SCOTUS will rule and semi-autos will be made legal in every state in the union. Yippee!

We are not retired LEO and should not have to qualify as such. GFH has been qualifying retired LEO and others for a long time using these requirements and all have have passed superior court muster.