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The Second Amendment: So there are 2 distinct groups called out here (the comma matters): A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms The training laws/rules in question have nothing to do with group 1, they are all about group 2 as they pertain to what requirements "the people" have to adhere to in order to bear arms. This has nothing to do with militias. Then the final clause comes in: "shall not be infringed". For our purposes in discussing the NJ CWP requirements: "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" is all that matters.

i'm pretty sure that the "well regulated" part had nothing to do with training, but rather keeping your equipment in good working order. that will ensure none of that in this state. if they can find a way to deny us, they will. as evidenced by their moving of the goal posts right now.

Huge difference! Florida require a hunter's education course or a DD-214 or just about any training. No live fire and No requalification EVER! We are not active duty law enforcement and we should not be held responsible to qualify at that level of proficiency! THIS IS BULLSHIT and FPM!

....we're all concerned about qualifying tests here when we should be more concerned about our 2A rights being violated.....omo.

HCQ1 from https://www.state.nj.us/lps/dcj/agguide/firearms_2003final.pdf (5 pages) HCQ1 firearms qualifications [PFP#841090829].pdf

Looks like ya'll had a great time! Minor health issue for me and major sudden health event for mom kept me from attending this one. But thanks @Scorpio64 for keeping me in the loop once again and organizing this for all the others who atteneded and had a good time. I look forward to making another get together soon....

I hope I am wrong, but I do not see the training requirement being struck down. We can argue there was no such requirement back during the founding, but I believe if a state decides to make training a requirement, it wont be overturned.

I’ll take it pm coming

I would not say that a specific holster will prevent an UID - it's only just one factor to help minimize the risk of an UID.

I heard through a friend who was at an ATF seminar this week and NJSP did a very quick heads-up on what's coming in July. This is what he reported was said: 1. The qualification course will be the NJ HQC1 (including the 25 yard line phase). 2. The application will be an online application including an online safety training component. 3. A basic pistol course will be required (NRA will suffice). 4. Use of Force instruction will be required. 5. Anyone who has received their CCW permit, but hasn't qualified on the HQC1 course will have to do so by October (the issuing municipality will notify them of the need to do so). No more details than that right now. Don't get upset with me - I'm just passing on what I heard.

There is no precedent. There is no law that prevents you from making a trigger upgrade. With that said, if it's something that concerns you keep everything stock.

One incident I can think of is you have an UID and someone gets hurt. You put a 3lb trigger in your Glock. Notnan issue if it's a comp only gun. Anything you do to make your gun more accurate, other than a lighter trigger pull, should not be an issue. I wouldn't worry about that.

Feeling poorly? Here once again; proof that a hot nurse and the right tempo can fix anything. Hat tip: Turner Classic Movies

They let all the minorities commit the crimes, then let them plea bargain away the gun charge so it doesnt count as a stat...

I agree. I always believed that the shoot was either good, or... not. The only way a trigger job becomes an issue is if it appears you didn't mean to fire the gun, or hit something/one you shouldn't have. Will the prosecution argue you made your gun easier to use and more accurate? Or that you didn't have control of the firearm?

@Mrs. Peel There are no enablers here, just helpers. We help people discover shit they want, that, for whatever reason, they had not yet realized they wanted.

when does it get to them? or when is their decision supposed to come down? how many of them have skeletons that bucktooth may be exploiting?

I actually use a cheap NCStar multi reticle sight on mine - it hasn't moved and holds zero, but it's not the greatest quality. Get what you pay for there. I would say look for a deal on a Holosun HS407c but those will be over $200 usually, and you may need to get a picatinny mount plate for it. A Vortex Crossfire would most likely be too large/heavy for it. That's an optic I use more for my Rifles.