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Fully agree, our side has made significant strides recently; I can only imagine the long hours they have been putting in. I do want to point out, not all ranges were/are charging per gun for qualifications though. When I did my initial qualification at Shooters for example, I had two guns signed off on for the price of one. I'd have to check my notes, but I think they did up to five or ten before they charged an extra fee. They were also cheaper than many other ranges. As mentioned in this thread, they are also offering to requalify 4000 people under the new rules at no charge, I was one of them. Let's say they can get the required FBI Q Targets for 50 cents a pop (they use the cardboard version). That's $2000 out of Shooters' pocket just on targets, assuming all 4000 people come back to requalify. Labor costs are likely fixed, unless they needed to increase employee work hours to get them done, I don't know. But it's still work hours they are putting in while not generating revenue. They also have to close those lanes to potential paying customers for the qualification. How many other ranges are doing that? I think more are going the opposite route and charging for requalification. Some of them forced people to pay for additional courses before letting them qualify in the first place also. I agree it is the range's right to do so, it's their business and they can set their own policies and rates as they wish. Just as it's my right to go someplace else, for as long as there's still options out there. When I went to Shooters to requalify, I purchased a bit over $250 worth of merchandise as a small thank you. They'd get much more of my money from other purchases if they weren't nearly an hour away (more when shore traffic is factored in). The places charging at every chance they can... I won't spend a dime there unless I have no other choice.

This is actually what I was getting at. Why where mental health facilities torn down and not replaced? Because it is more lucrative to continually treat with drugs. More the 1/3rd of Americans have been prescribed anti-depressants. Many drugs have suicidal or homicidal thoughts as side effects. Big pharma needs to be held accountable, not gun manufacturers. But big pharma will not be held accountable because they are the largest lobbying industry, spending twice as much on buying politicians as the 2nd biggest industry.

I consider it a gift that we dont have to qualify with every gun anymore. More guns meant more money. That is now gone. Send the form in. Thanks to Dan Schmutter , Scott Bach, Evan Nappen, Anthony Colandro and all others that were involved with getting these restrictions removed. These guys are doing the heavy lifting behind the scenes. Pay attention people.

I came across an interesting article for your reading: What is your opinion on stores that have a no weapons allowed sign on the door? In my state, it doesn't carry the force of law. So I ignore them. IF they discover I'm armed, they can ask me to leave, and I will. If I refuse to leave they can call the police and I would be charged with trespassing. After the shooting in Aurora at the movie theater, I made the decision to remain armed, even in posted places, for my own safety and not be rendered defenseless. Since the posting businesses do not offer any guarantee to my safety, yet want me defenseless, they can go fuck themselves. Now if they offer me a personal, armed guard while I shop or watch a movie, then I'll consider being unarmed. IMHO there should be a stipulation to those no weapons signs. If a place requires you be defenseless THEY MUST ASSUME LIABILITY for your protection. Every. Single. Customer. Or. Patron. Period. This gets back to these people squealing “compromise” all the time. Hiring security for thousands of patrons every day would bankrupt them. Lawsuits from families who lost loved ones would bankrupt them. And yet they WANT their customers to be victims. If only 25% of their clients were armed, most of these mass shootings would end in seconds, and the body counts would be greatly reduced. We've seen the stories where armed citizens stopped the threat long before the police arrived. Sometimes before the 911 call was completed. Remember this little fucktard?? Opened fire in a food court at the mall. And a young man who had just gotten his carry license months earlier, not a lifelong shooter like me, yeeted this piece of shit from about 40yds, across the food court and stopped the threat. MSM refused to run the story, because it didn't fit the narrative. Armed good guy, stopped armed bad guy. How many lives were saved that day? The good guy had a semiautomatic pistol with 15 rds. So it also went against the magazine ban bullshit that seeks to limit a person to 10 rds.

Just seen this posted by Dark Storm - If this is accurate then in theory we are good again with the brace on... Braces are back! - Dark Storm Industries - New Jersey Gun Forums (njgunforums.com)

Indeed, but this is a good discussion, and what you haven't seen could probably fill a library (just kidding!!) When I did my requal (the subject of this thread) the instructor handed us a completed 182 and blank 182a and advised to hand BOTH completed forms in to our local PD. My local firearms clerk thanked me when I handed it in and advised that she was expecting to receive them 'from everyone'.

The statute says: 2C:58-4 Permits to carry handguns. 2C:58-4. c. Investigation and approval... ...The chief police officer or the superintendent, as the case may be, shall also determine and record a complete description of each handgun the applicant intends to carry... The SP.182a form is the chosen method to achieve this.

I'm a little buzzed, so I apologize I'm advance if my thoughts don't sound coherent or complete. This whole mental health crisis is completely contrived and manufactured. Are there people with screws loose? Of course. But how many of them are truly fucked up versus the Adderall kids? If, as a country, we put an ounce into reestablishing strong core family values as we did for fighting for LGBT2ZQ!∆¢! rights we wouldn't have shitheads like the Nashville shooter or Sandy Hook. The lack of core family values has led kids to seek acceptance in outside forces like Facebook and their ilk that are far more influential than a single working mom and part time dad can ever be. This isn't an issue of more beds and more hospitals. It's straight out of Full Metal Jacket. What is your major malfunction? Didn't Mommy and Daddy love you enough? This can all be traced back to the free love generation of the 60's and women's lib. This is when the family structure began to break down. Don't get me wrong, their are more than their fair share of shitty fathers out there, but it always has been socially accepted that father don't know dick about parenting and that it was left to the mothers. There is far more to this, but I just can't expand beyond what I've already typed at this point. As I mentioned earlier, I'm a little buzzed. I consider this community highly intelligent so I hope you can see my train of thought.

Yes I’m covered by the injunction.

Wow did I get a slap in the head. Here I naively was thinking the IL gun ban was just a simple case of hating gun owners. I read the SCOTUS brief asking for certiorari for the governor's shenanigans. In brief the IL House with the IL Speaker made a fake shell of an insurance bill. It then goes to the IL Senate where the Senate President strips all the Insurance data and then added all the semi-auto gun stuff the Governor wanted into it. Of course it passes in both houses and is signed by Pritzker instantly. It also looks like 3 day time period for public notification was also shortened. Lastly that wasn't enough for the Guv to insure his gun bill passes future court challenges. It seems 2 State Supreme Court judges left the bench. Before the 2 new candidates ran for election to those 2 seats, they gave extensive public statements that informed voters how much they were against "assault-weapons." To insure they got elected the GOV and Democratic interest groups found their way to pass on $2.5 million to the judges campaigns. Not only did they get elected but when the Gov's bill eventually hit the State Supreme Court, they were there to join the majority opinion. Needless to say they did not excuse themselves due to their incredibly biased gun statements. Now I lived in Chicago while going to Chiro School for 4 years and I should've not been surprised by the level of Chicago politics! This is one reason that I do not believe in voting for judges. I would still rather they get appointed by the executive/legislative processes. Microsoft Word - 44458 Sullivan cv 01.docx (supremecourt.gov)