Maksim

Since moving out into the "country" where the closest 24/7 gas station is like 5 to 10 miles away, you learn to keep at least 10 to 20 gallons of gasoline in cans. Lawn tractor, all the gas lawncare equipment and the wife who has a habbit of testing when the empty light really is empty. As far as using gas in a premium car... keep in mind most premium called for is 91, so 89 is not bad and most will adjust just fine. In my older E320 (v6, non turbo), car calls for premium but actually gets better mileage on regular... and no issues otherwise. Yes, performance may drop.... but who is drag racing them?

Hence why I moved! I still don't think it is a 100% lost cause.... Very likely however. I don't think that gun laws will get better... I just don't think they will get much worse.

Well, it is part of ANJRPC's mission and part of Cherry Ridge range. Then throughout the times you did have 2A groups try to do that, in the last 15 years I recall NJCSD, NJ2AS and now CNJFO. I think CNJFO is the most dedicated to the goal of changing through perception of guns. This is also one of the reasons I created the forum almost 10 years ago. We got plenty of new shooters in. We just need to do a lot more.

Yes... still a bit misleading... or at least they need to update the site, they are citing a corrected article. In either case... why is it called a Murphy Mag now? Sounds kinda stupid. But THIS is the information that should have been posted, something that is actually educational. Not telling people the police are coming.

They did state they are not going door to door. Breitbard corrected and updated their article.

But this is NJ. The facts are, there are more anti-gun people in NJ than pro-gun. Nothing can change until we shift the amount of people which are okay with guns. We do that by getting more people to the range and not making ourselves look like extremist tinfoil hat wearing people. Otherwise, we have to wait for the Supreme Court.

Don't think that will work... unless you can travel faster than the spin of the earth... Unless you were already at the international date line... but then you wouldn't give a rat's ass about NJ mag limits. =)

Where does it hang exactly? Shoot me a pm. Will be doing some updates but would be helpful to see.

If legislators are smart... they are not going to push this because going down to 5 rounds would invetiably bring A LOT more activist money in from outside the borders. What I can see a push for and actually sticking is a background check for Ammo, ala California. 5 round mag limits I think would be a dead on arrival issue. Tinfoil hats however block logic along with the alien and government control signals.

If it was just one post... I would get it... but there as hourly posts suggesting it, suggesting gun owners are now to expect police contact over their magazines. Others then really pushed the message claiming police were going to use their lists to see who has more than 15 round magazines. A few others even suggested the police were going to make up excuses to bust into your house and search for magazines. These folks are not "nobodys" but fairly active people in the NJ 2A facebook groups.

Kill it yourself?

Why do you think he was talking about you?

I am just wondering... has anyone ever been busted in NJ for having a disassembled high capacity magazine anyway? I.e. not like Aitken case where he truly had a high cap... but someone having a high capacity magazine that was taken apart.

Was everywhere and would not of changed anything... but much more people got hurt. Besides... everything on the forum here is passed on to Putin directly. He can't decide yet whether to help us or not. :roflmao:

Also Kaleda today mentioned on Facebook that the Police? have a record of all your high capacity magazines.

I think generally, it is. can it be saved? Sure... but this is when EVERY gun owner and gun group should start expanding the base of gun owners. Unfortunately what has generally occurred is that the hard core extremist 2A folks in NJ will generally NOT accept anyone who does not believe as they do. So the typical NJ gun owner is attacked from both sides. When that happens, do you really feel welcomed to participate? All you need to do is look at the Facebook groups. Unless you sing the praises, you are bashed and trashed.

Ah. Possibly but not neceesary. Murphy worked for Obama and already has his Blessing. Booker is already popular with the base, does not need to do much more. In reality, Booker is fairly moderate on guns. I recall an interview with him back during OGAM when he publicly stated that more gun control is not going to stop crime and none of the crime in Newark was by legally possessed guns.

Then it's not a magazine is it? =) It does not function. Reading too much into this... as most gun owners do.

I think you are both right... but ultimately we do have two FACTS. 1. In 30 years, He has not accomplished any meaningful wins for the 2A community. 2. He may be a competent attorney, hell, he may be the BEST attorney in the world... but it will not change squat in NJ because the underlying demographics in the state are ANTI-2A. My main issue with him, and only in the last few weeks, is that he became a fear monger knowing full well what he says would happen, cannot. Beyond that... the fear mongering is not helping the 2A community here, but helping his wallet. Through sales of more books, seminars, US Law Shield (where he is the main attorney).

They can run on it, but it would not work in the national elections. Gun control would fly in the House of Reps, but it would be DOA in Senate. Look at Obama... came from Chicago.... but did not do anything on a national level. Guns are a very localized issue. What we will see is very anti gun North East (DC to MA) + California and an apathetic to pro-gun rest of the country.

Just like McCarthy did with red scares? For every 1 person it scares, it pisses off more gun owners who do not want to identify with what they believe are the tinfoil society. And it is not FEAR... it is lies... especially when you should know it would not be possible.

Nor should you. They can easily change. This is why when applying for permits, just request 10 to 12 anyway. Worst case, you burn a few permits at $2 a piece. Best case, you apply for exemption from OGAM.

Spot on.

Shawn, THAT is the problem.... The NUMBERS are not on NJ's side. Doesn't matter what you are, there has been ZERO wins for gun owners in NJ... and none of it will change until either Supreme Court rules OR we vote out legislators. That will happen when we get more gun owners. Nappen, in his latest posts, has done nothing for NJ Gun Owners, besides selling more memberships and panicking people with false information.

Just a good town. Here is the thing though, the Detective in charge of pistol permits... himself was generally anti-gun... but he respected the rights and got things processed very quickly.