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I’m waiting five weeks for an electrical permit that is mandated by NJ law to be issued within three weeks. What do I do? Complain to the mayor? He is the idiot who won’t allocate the funds to the building department so they could do their jobs on time. He’s not going to do anything. Our government regulates itself, and poorly.

But it would only have to be done once for the other judges to see that it can happen and not want it to happen to them.

I am going to start the process for applying now. I just called my local police department to ask for a case number to use to scheduling the fingerprinting, he says that the case number is given out after I submit the full application. Isn’t that reversed?

Oh no, once they’re approved by default they’ll still put all the restrictions they want on it lol

Where does Nappen teach that do you have a duty to retreat in your home (which is the exact polar opposite of a castle doctrine which New Jersey has)?

The last thing I want to do in the car, or I want other people to do in a car, is unload and then subsequently reload a firearm. It just seems like it’s asking for trouble, in multiple ways. It is significantly more exposure to prying eyes. It is more danger to yourself and others. Even more minor things that become a problem, such as excessive chambering of the same round causing bullet setback or case deformation.

Thank you. I hate to keep doing this, this will be the last time. One more question. Where did you get your photos taken and what size were they? I’ve seen some varying information on this and it’s best to do exactly what your judge allowed.

I believe GFH is around the same price. Reloaderz offering is a full 3 hour course, FWIW. Not just shooting.

Thanks! I’m curious, did you have any issues? Any hiccups with what you submitted or the way you wrote something on the application?

Excellent, thank you. Can I ask where you qualified? I assume it would be rude to ask what town you’re from, I don’t expect that.

OK, so you are saying that Rambo’s quote of “the firearm MUST be in a holster” is not law, it’s just your opinion of what we should do to avoid a charge? I thought this was a discussion of firearm laws? I also think it’s a bit rude for you to go back and edit almost every one of your posts to add something that you didn’t say the first time. It has significantly changed the conversation. An example would be you editing a post to add this: ”It's also just common sense and really stupid to argue not using a quality holster anyway.” I never argued not using a holster. I am asking what law says we MUST use a holster and what qualifies as a holster according to that law.

Yes, and that’s a secondary thing. My main concern is that his reply about a holster being required was to in reply to a post discussing removing a firearm from your person and putting it in a vehicle. Is he saying that you’re not allowed to do that, that it must remain in the holster? That is why I’m asking for him to clarify what he thinks “MUST” be done.

Are you confusing safe firearm procedures with law?

My grandma doesn’t knit, but she could bake up Kydex with the best of them As far as the derailment, I still want to go to the bottom of this. The discussion was about removing a firearm from your person and locking it in a box in your vehicle. That is when Rambo very affirmatively said “the firearm MUST be in a holster”. I don’t believe that is true in any respect, and I would like to give him a chance to prove his assertion.

I don’t understand what you’re saying, and how it relates to the statement above. Can you show me a law stating that a firearm must be in a holster? And if so, what is the definition of a holster.

I think there might be some confusion here. My post was in direct reply to the gentleman saying “the firearm MUST be in a holster”. His emphasis on “must”. I’m asking the gentleman to tell us what law requires that. I’d also like to know the definition of what a holster actually is. Can I call my pocket a holster? Can grandma knit me a holster? What would satisfy this law that he is talking about?

Indeed.

Why? Can you show me a law saying that you must use a holster? What constitutes a holster? Does it have to be registered as a holster? Can I make my own out of Kydex or leather and then put a serial number on it? Can you show me where those trigger blocking devices that allow you to pocket carry are outlawed by law?

Whatever happened with this? Any chance of the mag limit going back to 15 rounds?

Every permit that I’ve seen says at the bottom how the permit must be returned to the state police if employment is terminated. I assume this has something to do with permits in the past only being issued for certain jobs that require carrying a handgun. But it doesn’t say that on the permit. It clearly says that you have to return the permit to the state police if your employment is terminated. I haven’t seen anyone talking about this.

I spoke with the gentleman who handles the firearm permits in the North Arlington police department and he said they’ve received 10 applications, they came in very early after the ruling. I saw a picture of one person’s permit in Bergen County, does anyone know anything else about Bergen County?

My understanding is that the permit to carry in NJ is not a concealed carry permit, it will allow us to open carry if we choose, does anyone disagree with that? If we were only to look at that point, then you would be correct, you wouldn’t be doing anything wrong if someone witnessed you loading or unloading a firearm from your holster to your trunk. However, in the court order requiring the permit holder to remove his firearm from his person and put it in his trunk before entering a vehicle, it says that the firearm must be concealed. A firearm that someone sees and witnesses is not concealed. In some states it is a crime if someone sees your concealed weapon and you will be liable for legal action. I would assume New Jersey would certainly take that stance as well if they could.