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Same here. Dogs, getting the mail & bringing the robo-cans out and back. If I want to be armed at either son's home when we visit. I did the PA permit as well. Not the same as last week but this should be temporary.

5+ months, wow. Wonder if that’s considered excessive? You may actually be able to carry in January if that judge puts all the sensitive places on hold. For now enjoy getting the mail and walking the dog down the center of the street, ha.

Expedited hearing was scheduled on Monday which was a state and federal holiday. Preliminary injunction enjoining all this nonsense NJ has created. The federal judge is taking this seriously. State must file by Dec 30th for a January 5th zoom meeting. State is being asked to defend banning guns on private property, motor vehicles, library, restaurants, museums, bars, entertainment facilities. She must realize that all the sensitive places are a ban on carry and that is not allowed under Bruen. Merry Christmas to us.

Scanned through and read some. This should be interesting. Wonder if I committed a felony this morning, went out and ran some errands.

This is encouraging. Could set things up favorable for all states that are trying an end run by Bruen v NYSRPA

NJ redefining “instant”

The insurance is moot if you can't carry anywhere. The whole purpose of a carry permit is to carry and this bill removes your ability to carry.

I emailed all the senators, also included some links for reference: A yes vote would fail your law school final exam if you had to used NYSRPA v. Bruen to answer the question “is A4769 / S3214 constitutional and why.” https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf An excellent article you may want to read spells out how many gun control laws cannot survive today in light of historical analogs. https://reason.com/volokh/2022/12/16/analogical-reasoning-and-the-second-amendment/

Gizinski signed off on my permit but it came with the court order of a dozen sensitive places. My PD sent it off within two weeks and she took another 2 1/2 months. I had my application in early July so not many in front of me. She fits your description. However, in less than a week after an email request to Judge Ryan's law clerk (not a notarized letter or a court appearance) I had a court order rescinding Gizinski's order. Judge Ryan went as far to explain that "this court being of the opinion that the designation of said "sensitive places" is more appropriately deemed a legislative function". To my way of thinking, Judge Ryan is on our side. Now there are 3 judges assigned to carry permits by last count. I can't speak to the third judge but Ryan was quick and correct in his assessment of the ridiculous court order.

You can check each state’s website for car/truck carry. Last time we vacationed in the Carolinas I checked and my Florida non-resident permit was good for North Carolina but not in South Carolina. However, and here is where you should see what is currently legal, 5 years ago a loaded gun in the car was ok in SC permit or not. According to the USA Carry map, a NJ carry permit is only good in VA, NC & GA.

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Is that screen a NJ portal? I was under the impression that carry permit information was not available online in NJ to law enforcement.

This worked for me, I signed in front of the notary who then notarized name address city, state, zip phone email NJFPID #: I attest to legal ownership of the following handguns. Pistol Purchase Permits for each are on file with the NJSP and the (your town) Police Department. Manufacturer Model Serial # Smith & Wesson 4566 XXX1234 x _____________________________________

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Yeah, I looked the other day to see who is our judge, Justice Alito is assigned to NJ. Now since he’s from Trenton originally, he no doubt knows the deal here. If this becomes law and knowing his stance on 2A law, I’d hope he tells the 3rd circuit to fast track this because on its face it is in defiance of Bruen. There is a good chance we’d get a Trump appointed judge since he filled a good amount of empty seats in the 3rd. Those temporary restraining orders seem never to favor our side and if they do, not for long. Been really enjoying my freedom pass and would not be happy having it limited to walking our dogs.

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Once we have a few NJ specific wins under our belt I would like to see a challenge to the excessive fees. Divide what we all paid by two years and it’s not insignificant. Maybe if they made the permit 5 years, that would help.

Another related question. How about a loaded gun in your locked trunk. Say you park and take mass transit to a place you can’t carry. Is this permissible under current statute for a permitted individual?

Aha, well that explains things. They had 4 lines to enter your carry guns so I figured why not put four down. I wasn't sure which I'd be carrying at the time.

Agreed, back in July you could shoot one gun and then list as many as you like on the form. The thinking was if you could show how to safely handle a firearm, all good. They never even check the targets, just collected them for the trash. Our instructor said we really didn’t even have to shoot the pistol to qualify but they did it anyway. It appears they have pulled back on how many you could list, may have to qualify with each now.

Strikeforce (Dan Schmutter & Scott Bach) have been in direct talks with both the AG’s offices and the leadership at the Superior Courts. I’m certain it helped in Ocean County. I believe what’s happening is that these government agencies are being guided on what Bruen v NYSRPA means to the current NJ way of doing business and the reasonable ones are falling in line. If they don’t voluntarily change their ways they know what comes next. It’s inevitable and who wants to waste resources and time. Only the most faithful to the cause will hold out and it’s at their own peril. The talk of personally going after people outside of qualified immunity is real and I think these officials have been told as much.

a few other things you need to know, make sure you have 3 ink copies, not one ink and two Xerox. Have your Notary notarize everything and be your witness for the mental health form. There may be more things I'm forgetting, did mine in July. At at least you have someone to contact at the NJSP barrack who will take a look before you submit.

Ah, makes sense. Wonder if applying online makes any difference, that’s what I did. They didn’t even ask to see it when I went in to get photographed and pick it up. Just gave them my NJ driver’s license for ID.

Looks like only schools have the force of law with penalty. The others have no penalty mentioned. Casinos must have a sign at every entrance. So currently all the places I frequent are not restricted, good. Eventually someone will challenge state parks, there’s no 1791 historical analog. Same with wildlife areas. You can tell they never figured we’d go shall issue. These are so scattered about it’s no wonder they’d be hard to find, thanks