SpecialK

So to sum up this thread from what I can gather: -Everyone In This Thread is For Carry for All not just retired officers. -People are happy that retired officers are being treated the same as the rest of us, because perhaps this will light a fire under their butts to be for CCW for all as there is no public outcry from police for the rights of the people to be restored. -a bunch of people on both sides are getting butt hurt a little, only a little though.

Sounds like you are dangerously low on ammo! DOn't they always talk about the big bad guy that had a whole 200 rounds stock piled

I don't hate it, I just rather be able to see through the person I just had to defend my life against.

I spend my day talking to gun customers and dealers across the US everyday and I have to report that this is sadly the way a lot of dealers do business even out of the Republic of New Jersey. Vote with your wallet and find another dealer is your only option really.

Ha! Tell that to the 8 cops in West Orange who got laid off or my wife who with 10 years in at the FD got a lay off notice not to long ago. (Sorry to thread jack a little)

This is probably why most of the people on here and other areas do cry about special treatment for cops, because there is no public cry from the cops to give the rights back to the people. You take an oath to uphold and defend the US Constitution and then you can't even be bothered to make a public stink about how the people are treated as subjects and not given their rights. Where's the upholding? Where's the defending? Are you for the people or for your paycheck? I do commend you on stating you believe we should all have equal right, but would you do that in front of a camera or even your chief? We need law enforcement to stand up for us and not hold us down.

No one is arguing that!

I think that all the cop bashing in this thread is uncalled for. As a NJ resident I have a right to defend my life and my property. The cops will uphold that right. To just assume otherwise is to sell your local law enforcement short.

If we are going to make up stories way not make up a happy one? I choose to find my local cops competent to see a home invasion when it happens. You are welcome to assume yours are either to dumb or to worried about their job to go ahead and press an investigation when one is not warranted.

"Assault Rifle" irritates me. Assault is something one can do with a rifle not bolt onto it. I can also assault someone with a knife, a bat, a golf club and my penis, does that make it an assault penis?

So in your scenario the cops are worried more about their paycheck than the rights of the person and doing the right thing?

In my scenario I have well trained intelligent cops. I believe in my towns cops to do the right thing when the time comes.

So you are saying every cop in this state is incompetent and will conduct an investigation when no investigation is warranted?

If I shoot someone in my house it is because it is justified. No crime, no need for an investigation. No way I would surrender my arms as evidence when I have done nothing wrong.

Not having enough of them.

And if you look where the higher murder rates are in the US they are mostly in areas where guns are banned or heavily restricted to the average citizen. You cannot compare how free access to guns in the USA versus restricted access to guns in the UK and include the restrictive states as they skew the stats the most. Last time I check I do not have free access to guns in NJ I have heavily infridged access to guns as I cannot even drive around with an unloaded one in my car without a damn good reason! The anti's can come up with 100% proof that banning guns would stop crime and I would still be against gun control. I rather not live with people in peace that deep down want me dead and only do not harm me because they cannot find the right tool to do it with.

Sexy! Waiting on PPP's and then I am picking up my first Colt 1911

Colorado

For my serious answer: I do not fell the streets of Newark are any more dangerous than the streets of Denver or any other city I have been in. I have walked the streets or Newark in the day and at night alone and no one eyed me or bothered with me. Criminals look for easy targets. Have your wife train not to be an easy target and she can walk any street. Situational awareness is key every where. If she thinks you are paranoid ask her why she looks both ways when crossing the street when she can't hear a car coming. Redundancy in safety can be a good thing.

Welcome to the site. It isn't just a forum to talk to fellow NJ shooters, it's a support group too!

Heavier and larger items like the safe and reloading bench are easier to sell and replace when you get there as the cost of moving them plus what you can sell them for often equals the cost of a new one. I sold all my big ticket items before moving to NJ from CO and do not regret the decision at all. The less you have to move the better.

At Colorado State University they tried to ban CCW on campus. When it was proposed by the board of governor that the President had to change the policy to ban CCW we protested, petitioned and voted. We did the empty holster thing to raise awareness to the students that had no idea, set up booths to explain the situation to fellow students where they could also sign the petition to stop this (we got over 3000 signatures), we then handed in the petition one sheet at a tie in a large line, ABC news was here filming it and I was interviewed personally for 20 minutes (guess I couldn't be made to look like a gun nut by any of the footage as it never made it to air), our student council vote unanimously against the idea of banning CCW in a symbolic vote as they do not control policy, and I wrote a letter to the President that flat out stated that he as a state worker did not have the authority to supersede state law in which he wrote back that he in fact did. He went ahead and changed policy to ban carry on campus, we sued and won you can still carry to class just like I did everyday I went to class at CSU. I never did write a "told you so" letter to the douche bag. Nothing changes if you don't make noise. Anyone that says it is pointless has given up and should just go crawl in a ditch and die quietly alone instead of trying to bring others down with them. (the ditch and dying is of course not to be taken literally, so don't get you panties in a wad I do not want people to die, just want them to shut up if they don't want to help.)

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