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I had a thought, if me using a video about a cop shooting himself to make a point about how one incident is no means to decide that something shouldn't be done and it makes me anit-LEO in your opinion by that logic are you anti-non LEO because you posted a video of a non LEO doing something stupid? I am not sure how clearer I can be about it. It was not suggesting that cops should be disarmed and it was not a joke. I am really blown away at how you cannot grasp this concept though. It is a comparison that one incident is not worth basing a whole ideal on. There are plenty of situations where open carry would be a poor choice, but to say open carry is bad 100% of the time is just plan wrong. My feelings were never hurt, just my faith in the school system here.

Two customers displaying holstered pistols deterred an armed robbery in a Kennesaw Wafflehouse recently. There is some debate raging in Georgia about whether people should conceal their holstered handguns while in public. Some believe that wearing handguns openly will result in a loss of the element of surprise during a criminal attack, such as an armed robbery, while others believe that wearing handguns openly deters criminal attack. For Matt Brannan and J.P. Mitchell, who carry openly as a routine, the issue is no longer academic. Matt Brannan and J.P. Mitchell were dining in the Wafflehouse on Barrett Parkway at I-575 in Kennesaw at 4:45 in the morning recently when a scout for an armed robbery crew entered the restaurant to case it. At the time, Matt and J.P. thought he looked a little suspicious, as he was wandering around the small restaurant like he was looking for someone. Unknown to Matt and J.P., two cars full of armed robbers were parked behind the restaurant waiting for the scout's report. The scout saw that two of the customers were wearing holstered 1911 Springfield Mil-Spec .45 pistols, and he immediately turned and left the store. Meanwhile, conscientious Cobb County Police Officer D. Lowe had noticed suspicious cars sitting behind the restaurant in the dark and decided to investigate. He caught men with masks and rifles who had been preparing to rob the Wafflehouse. The criminals informed the police that they had changed their mind upon discovering armed customers and were waiting for Matt and J.P. to leave. Ironically, the police car was pulling in to the parking lot just as Matt and J.P. were driving away. In other words, had Matt and J.P. not been armed, the robbery probably would have occurred before the police intervened. Captain Jerry Quan, the Commander for Precinct One, where the Wafflehouse is located, confirmed Matt Brannan's story as one in which the open display of a pistol deterred a well armed robbery crew. Matt Brannan is making an Open Records Act request, and there will be an update to this story when more information is available. The case number is 09-133500. There will be updates and follow up articles as more information becomes available. If you do not want to miss any follow up articles, please click on the Subsribe button under the headline, above. Continue reading on Examiner.com Open carry deters armed robbery in Kennesaw - Atlanta gun rights | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-atlanta/open-carry-deters-armed-robbery-kennesaw#ixzz1mqy6D21T

How is this against LEO in any way shape or form???? You are very confused. My point was very clear that just because one person does something dumb or has something bad happen to them that it is not a solid basis for forming an opinion that something is bad. Am I suggesting that people stop driving cars??? nope. Am I suggesting that police officers stop carry guns???? nope. Am I suggesting it is silly to stop riving cars because of accidents? yup. Am I suggesting that it would be silly for police officers to be disarmed because one of them shot himself? yup. Take a deep breath and take off your tin foil hat, it is not us against you.

The first video is just car crashes, the second is the video of a police officer shooting himself by accident in the leg. The point is forming an opinion on one incident makes no sense. How many thousands of people in the U.S. carried a sidearm and were not robbed that day?

Probably why police officers should not carry guns.

Probably why you shouldn't drive a car.

When you are in flip flops, shorts and a t-shirt on your way to class with nothing but a pencil above your ear sometimes small of the back is your only option. A long draw is better than no draw, if you pull your CCW re-holstering is the last of your concerns, you are doing a terrible job of concealment if a gun grab is a possibility as they cannot grab what they do not know exists, no matter where you carry on your body you need to be aware of what movements would show or print the weapon and avoid these movements (bend with your knees not you back to avoid having your shirt come up), and if you fall down that easy should you really be trusting yourself with a firearm .

BTW Ray Ray I sold the Kel-Tec and my G19 to fund this one.

The best pistol is the best one for the situation/what you are most comfortable. There is no one answer for this. If I am carrying concealed going to the shopping mall I would prefer to have a Beretta 8045 mini Cougar tucked in my back, if that is not available I would take a G19 second. If I am heading into a combat situation I will take a Colt Series 70 1911 as it is the sidearm I am most comfortable as using as a hammer of destruction. The best sidearm to have on hand is the one you have trained with the most and are the most proficient with.

Sorry can't say. It was a **** for me to find and I work in the industry.

This is my first and I am sure there will be more in the future. I have a feeling another Series 70 might be my second one as well. It just fits and works in my hands in the right way.

No need for modifications for me. I do not have large webbing in my hand, so no need to put a beaver tail on it which makes you have to put what I call the tic-tac hammer on it. My gunsmith is a 1911 genius, so I will be having the trigger worked on slightly and he said he can better fit the extractor, but I fell in love on valentines day hen I picked her up they way she is.

I guess all that college just wasn't beer drinking and whoring it up, some of that Political Science Major must have stuck even though I don't use it now. I guess taking the citizenship test less than a year ago probably also helped. 30/30

Got my new Colt Series 70 about a week ago. Just figured I'd share some pictures of it with ya guys. Feel free to discuss why the Series 70 is by far the best 1911 ever

The easiest would be to just legalize them which would in turn destroy the market for them actaully.

The fact that he is a cop is not the point. We are against people shooting unarmed people.

Those are sure purddy

Because of people like yourself this state is so terrible to live in.

Sure thing bud, soon as you stop the flow of ilegal drugs and people into our country we will get right on that.

My wife called me a couple weeks ago all happy with the news that our PPP's were ready. I was not of course as the whole process disgusts me and makes me physically ill (I am not exaggerated I almost threw up last time picking while them up). I still find it weird when people celebrate getting their PPP's, having to look at the stupid things pisses me off even more.

If someone is kicking someones face in and you are a far distance away you could shoot someone for kicking someones face in. I agree with you that a a blanket statement no weapon = no shoot does not work, but for the purposes of this thread it does fit in as we are discussing shooting a person not in a physical altercation that has no weapon.

Just wondering since when are fists and feet not weapons by the way?

In all of your situations the cops are engaged in physical altercations. This is a discussion about a cop shooting someone from a distance. No one is going to argue with your situations as they are clearly good shoots, but they have nothing to do with this conversation. Yes, the statement "no weapon=no shoot" can be taken out of context, but in the context of this thread it is correct. Unless you can share a scenario where a good shoot can be justified without physical danger happening to someone and no weapon you are just spewing out of context sentences.

More examples please.