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I think you're confusing gun clubs and ranges. Gun clubs have charters and members.

FWIW I've owned an Armalite, Charter, and Henry AR7. The Henry is the best of them all. Doesn't jam, accurate, and better workmanship than the other two.

One of the major reasons for police not giving "breaks" is something the public (gun people and anti-gun people alike) has asked for. That is police use of audio and video recordings to verify what was said and done. Shaneen Allen was pulled over for an unsafe lane change. How unsafe? Only her and the trooper know. Without knowing the details do you still think it fair to call the trooper a "ticket writing robot"? Say the trooper did what you suggested and let her go. If the audio or video recording was later reviewed he would at least be subject to disciplinary action. If he were a probationary trooper he most likely would have been fired. Everyone got all those recordings by police of encounters with the public. No breaks is the result.

Check sgammo.com. Just about any ammo should work fine. Prices start a about $10 for a box of 50. They also don't ask for a copy of your FID. Reasonable shipping too.

You'd be opening yourself up to not only unregistered vehicle and the truck towed but also ficticous display of plates.

Kevin, concealed carry by OOS residents are usually treated the same as residents in Constitutional Carry states. I believe Wyoming allows CC concealed by residents only. OOS residents are welcome to open carry there. I might be wrong on that. It would behoove one to check the law in any CC state before doing so there. Most states have firearms laws that tell you what you can't do unlike NJ which tells you what you can do. Laws in other states are much easier to understand. BTW my knowledge of firearms laws in VT is via my sister in law who was a ADA, DA, and now a retired judge. Unlike NJ and a lot of other anti gun states, if a prohibited person is caught carrying a firearm they will go to jail. The murder rate in NJ is almost 3 times that of VT. There are a lot of factors other than gun laws that affect murder rates of course. Hawaii, with gun laws as bad as NJ, has about the same murder rate as VT. A factor keeping Hawaii's murder rate low is if you kill someone there, you don't have anywhere to run to.

You don't need a permit in Vermont.

Not the prosecutor's fault. Charged her with the murder both trials. Jury found her not guilty of murder both times.

The value of getting these non-resident permits is in how often you leave NJ so you can use them. If you go to Disney for a week annually it's probably not worth it IMO. I think a lot of people get non-resident permits just to be able to say they have them and really don't get to use them that much.

Note on their home page they state "Web site stock/prices do not reflect in store stock/prices". Seems like they can order you anything and have it in a few days and add shipping, transfer, and NICS fees. Nothing wrong with doing business this way. Jim Flynn has been doing it out of his truck repair for for years. If they are successful they will carry more in store stock like Flynn does. Flynn is one of the best FFLS to deal with. Hope J&J success.

Will be dropped as long as he pleas out. If he goes to trial he will face all charges.

I ordered a model kit from Amazon recently. The supplier sent me some toy suitable for a 4 to 6 yr old worth about $20. I emailed Amazon and the supplier got back to me. He said he would make good on the order and to keep the toy. Got my order a few days later and gave the toy to my grand-daughter.

As I said, messy is the reason the military never adopted it. When Vietnam was going on the manufacturer would sell cases being shipped to a Vietnam APO or FPO for cost. IIRC it was like $12-15 a case, $1.25-1.50 a 4 oz can and that's mfr cost. These were the days when a 4 oz can of 3 in 1 oil was 19 cents and you could buy quality motor oil for 50 cents a quart. Yeah, either one you can use for lube but nothing beats Dri Slide to this day for lubing a AR's innards under extreme conditions. Since Vietnam, in the Army Reserve or National Guard my standard issue weapon was usually a handgun. If I was in a more dangerous area I could convince supply to also issue me a M16 or M4. If I was going to use that M16 or M4 on a regular basis, I would get a case of Dri Slide to take with me.

This. Hollowpoints are covered in the same section of the statute with armor piercing ammo. Both prohibited ammo. What's on the complaint is what counts and can be amended later if required.

I'd call Cabelas and return the magazines.

Why can't I have a flash suppressor? How come we can't get carry permits? What are reasonable deviations? Cite examples where NJ gun laws prevented crimes? The problem is people are expecting NJSP to answer questions they can't answer. It's not their job to write the laws. These questions should be answered by the legislature. Why delays on getting ppp through them? Manpower is the answer. If you go to a barracks to apply for your permits I can guarantee they only have a detective assigned to this as a collateral duty. If he has a shooting, two rapes, 4 burglaries, and 12 assaults assigned to him which do you think he's trying to clear? Those crimes or getting you your ppps in 2 weeks. The answer to that is more funding for more detectives. That comes from the legislature so we're back to that. Larger cities have the volume and should have personnel assigned to handling fids and ppps. But who controls large cities in NJ? Liberals who don't want you to have a gun at all. Expecting to have NJSP answer a lot of your questions is not realistic. They are an executive branch of the government and don't make all those laws. A representative from the legislature or even the AG'S office would be more capable.

That would bring us back to what we have now if you write a law like that. If my example were not listed. A jury would have to determine if my deviation were reasonable. Most laws tell you what you can't do. NJ gun laws are written to tell you what you can do. This is the problem with them. If you are writing laws telling people what they can do, you are likely to overlook things you would "give permission" to happen. Using the bathroom, getting gas or stopping to eat are obviously reasonable deviations. This is based on the fact I have never heard of any one being arrested for engaging in these activities going or coming from a range in NJ. Someone must have been caught doing this. Or stopping to pick up a pizza or pack of Pampers. Find me a case. I've asked this question several times before and no one has found one. Writing a law that would say "include but not limited to" would give some relief but not solve the problem. The problem is all of NJ gun laws need to be rewritten. Thats not coming soon I'll tell you that.

Zeke, just about everyone who has commented in this thread would be dismissed from this case for cause if the discussions were available to the prosecutor or defense. A jury is supposed to not have any preconceived attitudes about the defendant's being guilty or not guilty. The less a person knows about a case before the trial makes them more likely to be selected for a jury. Being an active, former, or retired LEO is not grounds for a juror to be challenged for cause. However, most defense attorneys don't like them on juries in criminal cases. If they can't find reasons for a challenge for cause, they will use a peremptory challenge to have them dismissed from a jury. The defense wants a jury who'll find their client not guilty. The prosecution wants one that will convict. The judge and the cout rules are there to balance it out. Remember you only need one juror to hold out on a criminal case for a mistrial. The system is very biased toward the defendant's rights as dictated by the Constitution. I would be more likely to be selected for the in this case than many others who have posted here. Most of what I've said is only how the system works. Knowing how the system works is not a disqualifier. Carlo's checkered past probably had a lot to do with him being charged. If he's been convicted 6 times there are undoubtedly at least several other times he got away with whatever crime he committed. Saying "he's trying to turn his life around" sounds like a liberal catch and release excuse. However. I also know that can't be brought up in court unless that has some relavance to the matter being heard (for example possession of a firearm by a felon). I do not agree on jumping to the defense of everyone who has been arrested for carrying a firearm. There are plenty of cases much more worthy of support than this one as I've already stated.

The decision if it a firearm is not being made by the court. So far at least one cop, a prosecutor, and a couple of judges have the opinion there is pc for the case to continue. The grand jury will also determine pc. Carlo's attorney will have the opportunity to ask the case be dismissed. Ultimately the jury will decide if it was a firearm not the court. Why has no one else been arrested? Probably because Carlo is the convicted felon. Who was everyone supposed to make phone calls to? Griz card? Not sure what you mean by that.

Haven't been invited.

Sorry, I misspelled suppressor.

Didn't miss it. Just didn't get up that early. Remixer, please explain your position on "you certainly will not". The NJ law on "substantially identical" starts out with "a semiauto rifle with a detachable magazine". No detachable magazine none of it applies. A flash surpressor is not illegal by itself. It is just one of the "evil features". If you put a flash surpressor on a Mini 14 with a regular stock and that is the only evil feature you are still within the law. I realize surpressor was misspelled but your comment is misleading.

Zeke, I see no where the Judiciary is acting like the legislative branch. 1. The complaint is filled out by the police who believe or were told by a prosecutor there is probable cause. They apparently asked a judge for a warrant. The judge agreed there was pc. 2. Carlo's lawyer said there is very little leeway for prosecutors on Graves Act violations. As I said previously, Carlos criminal history influenced what was going to be done with this. His criminal record can also be used to determine sentencing. Carlo and others refer to these as youthful indiscretions. Six times? How many youthful indiscretions should one be allowed? 3. The judge at court appearance yesterday still found pc. It will go to the grand jury who will find pc and indict or not find probable cause and it will be dismissed (although it can be brought up again under certain circumstances). No where did anyone act like the judiciary. It seems we will find out what the jury thinks when Carlo goes to trial unless a deal is cut. One generally gets their best deal before indictment.

You can find it on line. I can't remember the last time I saw it in a gun shop.

Zeke, I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. You only have to go to the beginning of this thread to see it.