Tom609

You're right Rscalzo, A "march on the Council" won't solve anything. Only residents of the twp have any leverage. The club has been in contact with the NRA's legal people, but there isn't much they can do either. They are aware of the other shooting incident, but the main problem is that the land is owned by the twp and is classified as green acres. When the landlord wants you out, there's not much you can do. DirtyDigz, you're right. In fact, the owner of the industrial park where the building is located has not been a friend of the club. It could very easily have been as you said; someone drops a bullet and then says, "hey, look what I found."

I thought I'd update the situation at the Delran Junior Marksman Club... Places to shoot in NJ are limited and this is looking like it may go down. During a once a year roof inspection at a neighboring warehouse, they found a 45 and a 9mm bullet on the roof. Right off the bat they blamed unsafe practices at the range and the Township closed it "until further notice," although it looks like their intent is now "forever." They refuse to talk with the club's board and have gone into a stall. A letter was sent to all members asking them to show up and show their support at the May 26th (this Tuesday night at 7 pm) Township Council Meeting in Delran. This is a strictly regulated range with all shooting done from behind a bench, and overhead baffles prevent strays from leaving the area. You'd have to walk down and out from under the baffles to have any chance of accidentally letting one go. And even more unlikely because there's an RSO on at all times (I was one). Interestingly, the Delran Police have access to this range and have been observed doing their 7 yard fast draw with their new 45's. Imagine that! Also, a policeman from a neighboring town was hunting with his son several months ago in the area and they came across some kids shooting a 45 in the woods. They were arrested. You'd think that this might show some reasonable doubt on the part of the local politicians, but they were looking for a reason and got one. Fortunately I belong to another club closer to my home, but this was a good place and had been there since 1960 without a problem. I hope to be able to make the meeting and I'll post the results.

The NY Times is licking its wounds on this too ... http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/20/us/po ... rss&src=ig I think I'll celebrate by using my credit card to purchase a gun

From today's Newark Star Ledger... http://blog.nj.com/njv_scott_bach/2009/ ... ictio.html

I lucked out yesterday when I hit the Burlington Dicks at opening time - one box of Winchester .22 Dynapoints (my favorite) on the shelf. Feeling lucky, I swung by the Dicks in Moorestown on the way home and was able to get two more bricks. It really is a "timing" thing. It's simply being in the right place at the right time. Fortunately I didn't need 9mm or .357, but there was none to be had.

Welcome from further down Route 70!

Come November, NJ will be a Corzine free state

I had mine out today. It was a perfect day for it. Ran off 200 9mm. Takes me about 1 hour per 100, not counting the tumbling. I've been using the Lee Classic Turret Press for three years and it fits the bill. I too do it partly to relax and partly to fulfill an inner need to stockpile. Using existing components, it cost about $6.50 per 100 using 124 grain FMJ and 4.0 grains of Bullseye. You'll enjoy it as long as you don't plan on being a munitions factory.

I went out this morning (light rain with the target and bench area covered - nice!) and noticed the usual pattern. At the start at 25 yards - pistol - I'm keeping them all on a paper plate, but after 100 rounds (1 Hour or so) they're mysteriously being deflected and most are missing completely. I then find I have to think too much, but even that doesn't help. So, I usually then go to the .22 for awhile or switch to a rifle. After two hours I'm completely useless. Ammo and components are too expensive and I've found myself being more willing to pack it in lately when I feel things going south.

I just received my PPs two weeks ago. The process took exactly 5 weeks from the time I dropped off the paperwork. My guess is that "delays" happen locally.

Howdy neighbor!

It inspired me (any excuse, actually) to go out this morning and buy a nice little Stoeger Coach Gun in 20 ga. It was for the wife...really... I mean it. It looks right at home leaning up against the fireplace with ammo secretly close at hand in case swine get too close. Seriously, the news whores are unbelievable.

Air Force K9 handler 1967 - 1971.

I was in there last week and can't get a cute little used Colt revolver that I saw out of my head. I have to admit that they were much more accommodating at 10 am. No more lunchtime visits.

Welcome! I shoot at the Delran Range, which unfortunately is temporarily closed.

In SUV, HGs locked in case in far rear and ammo locked in tool box behind driver's seat. Rifles in far rear in soft cases (no locks) and ammo locked in tool box behind driver's seat.

Col...how are the prices up there? The Neos is a little too radical looking for me.

I didn't know of them, but will also put them on my list. Looks to be a half-hour or so away, which isn't bad at all.

The BM is sweet. It shoots great and looks like it'll provide years of fun. I even went over the bridge to Bristol today to grab an extra brick at Walmart! It's a real shame that you spent some serious money and got treated that way. The clerks at Wawa seem more appreciative for a lousy cup of coffee. Maybe gun counter help should have to go through Wawa's training program to learn how to deal with people and learn how to treat customers. Every day I sound more and more like my father... Enjoy that MP-15!

I just wanted to add that I have bought online from Midway, Graf & Sons and AimSurplus. Midway's shipping can be high and Graf's includes shipping in the price plus a small fee. I like AimSurplus for all my Milsurp ammo. Oh, and you can't beat CMP for 30-06 M2 Ball, although it looks like they're experiencing the same run on supply. They have all been very reputable with no problems, ever. I've never had a problem with any of them shipping to NJ, and only Aim asked for a one-time fax of a driver's license for proof of age. Nowadays, most are out of stock on the popular stuff and you have to check out their websites regularly. Such are the times in which we live.

Welcome from the edge of the Pines!

I decided on this- http://www.browning.com/products/catalo ... ype_id=448 It is definitely a seller's market today and you have to feel lucky when you can actually find the gun you want in stock. I traveled to see Butch in Vineland and wasn't disappointed. When I called him he said they had three Buck Marks in stock. When I got there later that day there were two. I even feel fortunate that I didn't have to pay MSRP, although it wasn't that much off. Still, I'm happy with it and plan to get out on Sunday morning and put it through its paces. Also, it's hard feeling bad when you have two more permits waiting to be used! Thanks for all your suggestions.

I know how you feel. I get that way when people post pictures of their armory on here

I remember seeing one on Gun Broker's list that is in Moorestown. I think he works out of his house.

Yes it is. I did an inventory of my .357 / 9mm stuff and I have 2,500 small pistol primers, 1,000 (each) bullets, and plenty of powder. On top of that, I have 1,000 of each already loaded. Not long ago people would routinely ask on the boards if it was economical to reload 9mm. Today you can do a box of 100 for around $7, and not leave the house. Replacing those primers won't be as easy as it was buying them a year or two ago, and the bullets are going up in price, but I'm hoping I can hang in here until the crazy buying / hoarding frenzy passes. It may not get back to what it used to be, but it is way too far out of line right now.