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+1. Had one on my 700 for a couple of years until I recently upgraded.

I used to be a member and buy stuff from Sportsman's Guide, but will not support them anymore than I will support Cheaper Than Dirt. There are many things they won't sell to us here in NJ, from .50 BMG ammo to a frigging little piece of metal used to adjust the front sight of an AR. You know, the AR front sight adjustment tool, that dangerous piece of equipment. F*ck SG, they suck!

Hey Ed, is there anything the legislature and governor can pass to stop her?

Yep. Only my Garand and Remington 1894 Lever stand straight up. I might be able to fill all the slots if those were the only rifles I had.

I have 11 insets, 4 on each side and 3 across the back, but of course you can't get near that many in. I actually only have 5 rifles and 1 shotgun in the slots and 2 ARs each in 2 pieces standing in the back and that's all I can fit. If they aren't in there the right way, the door won't close.

This is being discussed on Huckabee right now with the author of a book called A Government of Wolves.. Will repeat tomorrow night at 2000 on Fox News.

I'm not even sure I will be voting for him in Nov.

Don't be surprised if you run out of room pretty quickly. I only had 2 handguns and 1 AR when I bought mine, but ran out of room pretty quick.

My door is thicker. The full door stuff you have won't work on my door. Just the cheap, crappy Velcro holsters, barely hold a Ka Bar. I have the blue lights too, as well as the 2 hour fire rating, extra door hinge & extra bolts. I once asked them about the blue lights as opposed to white, they said they use blue instead of white as it isn't as bright and more "stealthy" in a possible situation. Sorry to hear you have issues with your shelf, my holders fit fine. Call them up, they're pretty good. I had an issue with the battery box for the lock and they sent out a new box right away. Turned out the new batteries that came with it weren't so new and died pretty quickly. New batteries fixed the problem, but they were quick to send new parts for free.

Nice. Congrats. I've had my protector for 4 years now and have been happy with it. Does yours have the thinner door the new one have that can have the door hanger or are those holster just velcro'd on? They looked like Velcro. I know the Velcro ones that came with mine are week and I'd don't trust them to hold any of my handguns over a concrete floor. Did the mag holder come with it or did you get it elsewhere?

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Unbelievable where this gov't is heading. Gonna be time to get off the grid sooner than later: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/26/report-feds-demand-major-internet-companies-turn-over-user-passwords/ REPORT: FEDS DEMAND MAJOR INTERNET COMPANIES TURN OVER USER PASSWORDS Jul. 26, 2013 7:20am Jonathon M. Seidl The federal government has demanded that major internet companies turn over users’ stored passwords, two sources told the respected tech website CNet. So what exactly does this “escalation” — as CNet calls it — mean? “If the government is able to determine a person’s password, which is typically stored in encrypted form, the credential could be used to log in to an account to peruse confidential correspondence or even impersonate the user,” the report says. “Obtaining it also would aid in deciphering encrypted devices in situations where passwords are reused.” But it doesn’t end there. The government is not only requesting the passwords, but its also asking for algorithms and even security questions: Some of the government orders demand not only a user’s password but also the encryption algorithm and the so-called salt, according to a person familiar with the requests. A salt is a random string of letters or numbers used to make it more difficult to reverse the encryption process and determine the original password. Other orders demand the secret question codes often associated with user accounts. According to the report’s sources, the government has requested password information on numerous occasions. Still, both sources said the companies fight them. “We push back,” one said. “There’s a lot of ‘over my dead body,’” said another. Most of the big internet companies — Microsoft, Google, and Yahoo — declined to comment or give any specific information regarding the allegations, but Yahoo did say, “”If we receive a request from law enforcement for a user’s password, we deny such requests on the grounds that they would allow overly broad access to our users’ private information. If we are required to provide information, we do so only in the strictest interpretation of what is required by law.” Still, CNet does offer some hope for those who may be concerned about this new era of government surveillance: it’s not guaranteed that if the government gets a stored or encrypted password that they can crack it. “Even if the National Security Agency or the FBI successfully obtains an encrypted password, salt, and details about the algorithm used, unearthing a user’s original password is hardly guaranteed,” the report says. “The odds of success depend in large part on two factors: the type of algorithm and the complexity of the password.” There is some advice, though, buried deep in the report. Although the author doesn’t expressly say it, he does note that longer passwords that contain odd characters are much harder to crack — even with an algorithm: One popular algorithm, used by Twitter and LinkedIn, is called bcrypt. A 2009 paper (PDF) by computer scientist Colin Percival estimated that it would cost a mere $4 to crack, in an average of one year, an 8-character bcrypt password composed only of letters. To do it in an average of one day, the hardware cost would jump to approximately $1,500. But if a password of the same length included numbers, asterisks, punctuation marks, and other special characters, the cost-per-year leaps to $130,000. Increasing the length to any 10 characters, Percival estimated in 2009, brings the estimated cracking cost to a staggering $1.2 billion. It almost makes you want to go back and read TheBlaze’s report on five ways to thwart the government from spying on you. Read CNet’s full report for more.

I can't believe that she wasn't messing around with Savage. I mean, I know there are a lot of very stupid people out there, but I'm not sure anyone could be that stupid and still be alive.

"Those who are opposed to our gun violence prevention bills certainly have the right to have their voices heard, but enticing people to do so in this way is irresponsible," Greenwald said. "If offering a gun as a contest prize isn’t illegal, perhaps we should look into legislation." What a f*cking tool.

Same here.

You ain't kidding.

Very sorry for your loss Dave.

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This!

Looks like they are trying to make it better: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/24/north-carolina-passess-sweeping-new-gun-laws/

Welcome Gene.

It's this case Chris. SAF v NJ (MULLER et al v. MAENZA et al)

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Thought For The Day... We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few crazies. BUT...we are told to judge all gun owners by the actions of a few crazies"

Kinda curious what made this thread "political" Getting a little ridiculous around here at times.